Is there currently any shareware (try before you buy) for z/OS and, if so, is
it in scope for your list?
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>Not yet, because it opens a different can of worms: that
>of having to manage the client certificates. I am not sure
>I want to do that… But I agree: it would be a good
>alternative.
How many worms? How many TLS client certificates do you expect you'll need
for this purpose?
Especially if the a
> Why is a utility targeted for IBM mainframes (other than Linux for z)
> translated into "ASCII"?
My guess is there was no "why." They just downloaded it and the default was
ASCII translation. It's bitten me more times than I care to admit.
Charles
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Hopefully SuperWylbur will emerge.
Re: Stanford's WYLBUR, have there been any attempts at "upstream" source
code recovery in a non-mangled form? For example, via pulling and reading
a tape from someone's/anyone's archive? It appears that Stanford has
graciously released WYLBUR under the Mozilla
Hi,
I don't think trail-ware should be part of the list, that's not really free and
is actually one of the most misleading ways to market a product, for instance
the Automatic Binary Optimizer (optimizer.ibm.com) that you listed on the
original request. It's not "free". :)
Brian
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My experience with RACF echoes Bob Bridges, as does the excellent code sample
from David Spiegel. A single call directly to RACF returns a yes/no for the
level of access queried in that call.
Ages ago I worked in an ASM2 shop. As I recall, ASM2 allowed a single call to
determine the highest l
Hi Bob,
If was unfamiliar with assembler, I would not start by attempting to use
RACROUTE macros, as the combination of the two is a lot to chew on IMO.
RACSEQ is a TSO command/utility for RACF written by Bruce wells of IBM some
years ago. Documentation and assembler source are available here
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:28:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>Regarding 2: *if* it was a "round trip" translate table and *if* one could
>get a copy of the table then the IEBCOPY data could be reconstructed
>programmatically.
>
>Even if not, I suspect that if one defined the problem not as "do a 100% j
The behavior is controlled by the PRESCPU parameter in IEASYSxx.
PRESCPU
This parameter causes system initialization CPU processing to
bring logically online those CPUs (and only those CPUs) that are
physically online when the IPL is initiated, without regard to the
number of CPUs defin
"I certainly had no intention to demean Gerhard, with whom I corresponded
on other email lists. A gentleman and an expert in multiple disciplines
who freely shared his expertise. If he failed after intensive effort, I
wouldn’t presume to be his better."
Yes Gerhard was special. He and I had priv
Note also that the assembly listing you mentioned has a step that
post-processes the ASM SYSPRINT output:
15 //EDITEXEC PGM=ASMEDIT,TIME=2,REGION=4000K,
// PARM='STMT'
16 //STEPLIB DD DSN=WYL.GG.SYS.LINKLIB,DISP=SHR
17 //ASMOUT DD DSN=&PRINT
Hi Bob,
Here is my RACROUTE program from CBT File 836:
RACROUTE TITLE 'RACROUTE STATUS=ACCESS'
* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *
*
* Author: David Spiegel
*
* Update: Sam Golob - June 17, 2020
* Return words instead of only
Regarding 2: *if* it was a "round trip" translate table and *if* one could
get a copy of the table then the IEBCOPY data could be reconstructed
programmatically.
Even if not, I suspect that if one defined the problem not as "do a 100% job
of recovering *any* IEBCOPY unload that has been translated
Code page 437 has the box drawing characters, but the code points don't match;
BF, C0, D9 and DA are single line corners while BB, BC, C8 and C9 are double
line corners.
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I remember the early IBM PC having those box drawing characters in its
character sets. It had graphics instead of international hyphenated
characters.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 11:33 PM Tony Harminc wrote:
>
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 14:38, Farley, Peter x23353
> wrote:
> >
> > Do you know of a spec
1. I would be willing to bet that if Gerhard gave up on it then it was well
and truly hosed.
2. The web site mentions IEBCOPY unload. If they translated that to ASCII then
you're in for interesting times.
3. Stanford Wylbur doesn't have all the facilities of SuperWylbur.
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Hi,
Can I use 3592-EH7 via 3592-C07 inside a TS4500?
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On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 14:38, Farley, Peter x23353
wrote:
>
> Do you know of a specific program or macro in the package that exhibits this
> failure? Or have a link to any public discussion of the issue that describes
> the mis-translations?
>
> I DL'd the tgz file directly from Stanford and bro
Peter,
This has been tried many times. Gerhard Postpischil was an expert. He was
unable to do it before he passed away, despite trying multiple times.
Basically, the google group dedicated to WYLBUR gave up on the effort in
2005.
Joe
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:21 PM Farley, Peter x23353 <
peter.f
"NOTE: All files are written as plain TEXT files in ASCII
with Unix-style line endings (x'0a'). Although creator
is set to ttxt (TextEdit), the files should be readable by
any text editor (vi, xedit, BBEdit, etc.). Note that all
data went through EBCDIC to ASCII conversions, so imbedded
special cha
Joe,
I think many of us are familiar with the issues involved in translating some
CCSID's of EBCDIC to ASCII, famously the square brackets and certain other
"special" characters.
Do you yourself know (or can you point to any public discussion that lists) the
specific character translations tha
http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/igy6mg30.pdf is the IBM
COBOL 6.3 migration guide for May 29, 2020.
It notes other compiler options added, does not have JTC listed.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 9:14 PM Pommier, Rex wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Can somebody give me a definitive definition of the NOJTC a
Did you look at the customization macro and see if there is a comment on the
option or the assembled table?
I would do it but I would have to IPL Dallas and I am too lazy.
Charles
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Behalf Of Pommi
I don't.
What not translate from *that code page* back to EBCDIC?
Perhaps flawed but not useless. Or at least I for one do not understand.
Charles
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Of Joe Monk
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 20
I've been doing mainframe security for a few decades now, but I've never
learned IBM's version of assembler (I still have ambitions of doing that
eventually) so I may be mistaken about how RACROUTE works. But my impression
is that the question the OS asks the security system might look like thi
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22
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ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 Programming languages, their environments and system
software interfaces is a standardization subcommittee of the Joint Technical
Committee ISO/IEC JTC 1 of the International Organizati
Some sort of standard
You never heard of Chris Tandy, a Toronto-based programmer for IBM since
1985, but his work in standardizing computer programming languages is vital
to everything you do as a software developer.
Tandy chairs the American INCITS PL22 group and is an officer in the global
ISO/
OK, based on advice here, we'll schedule an LPAR bounce at the next IPL. Thanks!
.
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From: I
"instead of being offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format, was
converted to ASCII, losing some needed characters, and was then compressed
as a tar file. "
So if you understand the implications of that, then you understand why its
useless.
Joe
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:37 PM David Spi
I'm kind of hoping Captain COBOL will see my request and respond. :-)
Rex
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Charles Mills
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 5:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: COBOL 6.3 compiler options question
No
Not I.
There is a May, 2020 update to the P/G and it's not in there.
Charles
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Behalf Of Pommier, Rex
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 2:11 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: COBOL 6.3 compiler
Hi,
Can somebody give me a definitive definition of the NOJTC and JTC compiler
options in 6.3? I'm not seeing it in the COBOL reference or any COBOL manual
for that matter, yet it shows up on the option list when we compile a program:
NOFLAGSTD
HGPR(PRESERVE)
NOINITCHECK
Hi Joe,
Why is it useless?
Thanks and regards,
David
On 2020-07-08 16:25, Joe Monk wrote:
Yep. And its useless.
Joe
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:39 PM David Spiegel
wrote:
Hi Joe,
I GUNZIPd and UNTARd WYLBUR via CYGWIN on Windows 10 Pro.
Regards,
David
On 2020-07-08 14:25, Joe Monk wrote:
H
Yep. And its useless.
Joe
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:39 PM David Spiegel
wrote:
> Hi Joe,
> I GUNZIPd and UNTARd WYLBUR via CYGWIN on Windows 10 Pro.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
> On 2020-07-08 14:25, Joe Monk wrote:
> > Here is some info from a while back ...
> >
> > There is definitely interest, but
The biggest off-color swan on the West Coast by far is earthquake. Wildfire is
also on the list as well as tsunami. Some years ago (the old) Bank of America
came close to shutting down their downtown LA data center because of civil
unrest. In the age of climate change, flooding is not out of the
Yes, the Image profile needs to be updated for number of CPs to be brought
online during IPL.
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If this CP is to be online from now on then update the lpar hardware profile to
insure that it will be there after any deactivate/activate of the lpar. In the
back of my mind I'm thinking during the IPL process the system looks at the
profile to see what number of CPs should be online. I could
Hi Joe,
I GUNZIPd and UNTARd WYLBUR via CYGWIN on Windows 10 Pro.
Regards,
David
On 2020-07-08 14:25, Joe Monk wrote:
Here is some info from a while back ...
There is definitely interest, but the UCLA version, instead of being
offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format, was converted
Do you know of a specific program or macro in the package that exhibits this
failure? Or have a link to any public discussion of the issue that describes
the mis-translations?
I DL'd the tgz file directly from Stanford and browsed a few sources at random,
but I didn't see any "weird" character
We added a logical CP a while back via CF online. After the next IPL, it was
offline until we reissued the CF command. What do we have to do to make it
'permanent'?
.
.
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Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
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Here is some info from a while back ...
There is definitely interest, but the UCLA version, instead of being
offloaded on the mainframe in AWS or Transmit format, was converted to
ASCII, losing some needed characters, and was then compressed as a tar
file. The result won't unpack under Windows; un
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 09:18:01 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>I would *think* -- perhaps I am being naïve -- that one could come up with an
>automated fix for that that would do a 90% job, and then fix the last 10%
>manually.
>
>How many lines of source is it (approximately) and in a few words what
I would *think* -- perhaps I am being naïve -- that one could come up with an
automated fix for that that would do a 90% job, and then fix the last 10%
manually.
How many lines of source is it (approximately) and in a few words what was the
mistranslation error? The usual stuff with braces, bra
Unlikely?
Black swans do happen. How unlikely is a world-wide pandemic that cripples
economies around the world?
Charles
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Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 2:33 AM
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In the case of the NotPetya malware attack that crippled Maersk Lines, I
believe they did not have backup for their router configuration files on the
theory they had multiple routers and each backed the others up via replication.
Of course when one got corrupted it happily replicated to all the
Dumb question - can integrity checks for backups be done with dump
hashes/signatures, either in software or in the storage array (if the array
maintains metadata about files/objects) ?
If there's an automated flow for this, many teams could sleep peacefully,
knowing that backups are in good cond
I do a backup to spinning storage, then a copy of that backup to Azure for
long term.
Joe
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:12 AM Seymour J Metz wrote:
> I've always gone with dual* backups, with one copy off site. Remote
> mirroring is a good option where policy permits, and even if retensioning
> is
Hi All,
I want to give another perspective on the need for backup copies. The focus
here is on physical loss of storage. With replication, and many clients having
2, 3 and even 4 sites, the probability of needing a backup copy to recover from
a physical loss of data really has decreased. (Sti
I've always gone with dual* backups, with one copy off site. Remote mirroring
is a good option where policy permits, and even if retensioning is no longer
relevant, rereading backups periodically will give you a heads up if one copy
goes south. I would consider even correctable errors to be red
The mother lode is cbttape.org, the repository for so much "Free Mainframe
Stuff" that we all use, and also many of the links off the cbttape.org main
page (e.g., Mark Zelden's excellent offerings, etc.).
Peter
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Timoth
I agree with your findings.
At one time, one headlight of my car failed. Since it has two headlights, I did
not make much hurry to replace it, but 2 days later the other one failed. Then
I was left in almost complete darkness. A SPOF is a SPOF and is subject to
Murphy's law, which means it will
On 7/8/20 5:34 AM, Jantje. wrote:
Not yet, because it opens a different can of worms: that of having
to manage the client certificates. I am not sure I want to do that…
But I agree: it would be a good alternative.
Fair.
Discussing NTLM makes me think that you might be in an environment with
Probably many others will chime in on this. I have lost RAID 5 arrays with
two disk failures within an hour of each other. RAID is nice, but one must
allow for failures.
Long ago I was involved with reading archived tapes and transferring the
data to CDs. The programs involved were home-written
Sorry, [[ORVYL and WYLBUR#SuperWylbur™]] is the wikitext for section
SuperWylbur™ of article ORVYL and WYLBUR, and I had an extraneous space after
the # sign. If you enter ORVYL and WYLBUR#SuperWylbur™ into the wiki search bar
it should come up.
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First off, STOP
Second off, disaster recovery is a question of risk mitigation for a
business. The business (NOT I.T.) must make the decision as to what
level of risk mitigation they are willing to pay for. You can preach at
them til their blue in the face, and it wont matter until somethi
Hi R"Shmuel AMV"SH,
Your first link didn't work.
Regards,
David
On 2020-07-08 08:09, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Of course SuperWylbur is not WYLBUR:
Why do you say that? Ceertainly the wiki article [[ORVYL and WYLBUR#
SuperWylbur™]] says no such thing.
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No, you answered off topic. You initiate quarrels. Not only here.
You have a of time for trolling. And you always want to say "no, you're
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W dniu 08.07.2020 o 14:17, Seymour J Metz pisze:
No thanks, I'll leave that sort of thing to you; you're much
No thanks, I'll leave that sort of thing to you; you're much better at it than
I am.
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> Of course SuperWylbur is not WYLBUR:
Why do you say that? Ceertainly the wiki article [[ORVYL and WYLBUR#
SuperWylbur™]] says no such thing.
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W dniu 08.07.2020 o 13:53, Seymour J Metz pisze:
Whoosh! You're completely missing the point. It's a matter of bas
Many times a new box is populated with back-end drives from the same "batch"
of hardware, with the same MTBF.
The result is that many drives will tend to fail about the same time.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 3:37
Improvements in technology do not mean that you should abandon good operational
sense! You should always do backups. Using raid arrays to improve performance
and uptime has nothing to do with prudent operational procedures.
Kenneth A. Bloom
CEO
Avenir Technologies Inc
/d/b/a Visara Internation
Whoosh! You're completely missing the point. It's a matter of basic probability
theory. Given N independent adverse scenarios with probabilities Pn, the
probability that none of them will happen is (1-P1)(1-P2)...(1-PN).
But it's not my dog. Feel free to run without backups, as long as you don't
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 19:25:46 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote:
>Have those "powers that be" offered a list of acceptable alternatives?
No, of course not.
>Unless they insist, I don't think NTLM over HTTP is a good protocol idea
I don't think so either.
>nowadays for a variety of reasons, so can w
Theres a big problem with the stanford distribution that makes it unusable.
Basically, when they did the ASCII<>EBCDIC translation, some characters got
mistranslated. So, it will not assemble.
Joe
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:35 AM Timothy Sipples wrote:
> There's precedent. Stanford graciously of
It has no value.
Terrorist attack is unlikely, but two terrorist attacks at the time are
more unlikely. Thousand terrorist attacks at the tima are even more
unlikely.
A bomb attack is unlikely. Large (atomic?) bomb attack is more unlikely.
When you have two datacenters and tapes in shelter off-
W dniu 08.07.2020 o 00:40, Grant Taylor pisze:
On 7/7/20 8:52 AM, R.S. wrote:
Few words about RAID:
RAID is more reliable than single disk. Assuming same reliablity of
disk used in RAID.
That starts to get questionable when you have more and more disks in a
RAID array.
That's why you DON'T
That was the case with HP SSDs, which I mentioned. SSD had error in
microcode and all of them failed at the same moment.
Link:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/hardware/hp-warns-that-some-ssd-drives-will-fail-at-32-768-hours-of-use/
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W dniu 08.07.2020
Rob,
No problem. I just wanted to explain things. My english is far from
fluent, so don't feel all the nuances.
BTW: I was using RVA. Yes, it was RAID6. And we almost lost data ...not
because of drive failure. It was some weird problem with controller.
In short words, one disk "failed" (see bel
I would say it is not because of extra workload, but rather result of
some "epidemic" - the reason which caused first drive failure also
somehow affect other drives. Last, but not least array controler
(electronics) is also suspected.
My €0.02
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The Moshix channel on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/user/moshe5760/videos
Even the old operating system stuff still applies to modern systems.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 6:56 AM Timothy Sipples wrote:
>
> Everyone likes free stuff, right? Please reply to this message with your
> nominations for
There's precedent. Stanford graciously offers WYLBUR's source code for
download:
https://web.stanford.edu/dept/its/support/wylorv/
Of course SuperWylbur is not WYLBUR:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORVYL_and_WYLBUR#SuperWylbur%E2%84%A2
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