Re: clarification please - is z/OSMF required for migrating z/OS from v2.3 to v2.4 ?

2021-01-15 Thread Gibney, Dave
I am also a small site, and I am shutting down within the year. Stopping at z/OS 2.3. I am not sure what I'd have done if I had to do another z/OS upgrade, usually every other release. It's clear that IBM plans to make z/OSMF a requirement. And for zIIP-less shops, on small machines or

Re: clarification please - is z/OSMF required for migrating z/OS from v2.3 to v2.4 ?

2021-01-15 Thread Brian Westerman
The only real problem I have with z/OSMF is the overhead. Several of the sites I manage have very small z13s systems, without zIIPs or even multiple CPUs, so the overhead is beyond what they can live with. I doubt that z/OSMF will ever be the installation vehicle for z/OS, but it's nice to

Re: No BPX-level interface for __passwd_applid? Was: Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-15 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
It's probably a bug in SORT. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thomas David Rivers Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: No BPX-level interface for __passwd_applid? Was: Re: Code to verify LOGON password

No BPX-level interface for __passwd_applid? Was: Re: Code to verify LOGON password

2021-01-15 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Kirk Wolf wrote: /* Check password for a userid. Note: requires program-controlled environment To build: c99 -o checkpass checkpass.c i extattr +p checkpass */ #define _POSIX_SOURCE #include #include #include #include #include #include int main(int argc, char** argv) { if

Re: JCL to tar USS directory

2021-01-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 19:39:41 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > >From the z/OS Unix System Services Command Reference >(https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.bpxa500/bpxbatr.htm): > > * It must be a text file defined with read access only > So, must I have a

Re: JCL to tar USS directory

2021-01-15 Thread Frank Swarbrick
From the z/OS Unix System Services Command Reference (https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.bpxa500/bpxbatr.htm): BPXBATCH supports a parameter string up to 32754 characters when called from a TSO command environment. Also from both a batch and TSO

Re: JCL to tar USS directory

2021-01-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 18:22:09 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >For in-stream data sets: with the SH option, trailing blanks are not >truncated. Records in in-stream data sets are concatenated with blanks as >separator characters, and the string remaining after the SH token is passed as >a single

Re: JCL to tar USS directory

2021-01-15 Thread Frank Swarbrick
For in-stream data sets: with the SH option, trailing blanks are not truncated. Records in in-stream data sets are concatenated with blanks as separator characters, and the string remaining after the SH token is passed as a single argument to a /bin/sh -c command. For the PGM option, the string

Re: Bug in DFSORT? [WAS: Merging multiple records using DFSORT]

2021-01-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> And that's the way IBM nowadays treats it's customers? Customer? If you are a customer you would have gone thru proper channels of opening a PMR and Level 2 would answer your questions. Please do that. >Too bad I don't have the > email address of Arvind Krishna, I would have loved to CC: this

Re: Bug in DFSORT? [WAS: Merging multiple records using DFSORT]

2021-01-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
> I'm sure others here have looked and looked and looked at code they wrote, > absolutely sure that it was OK, only to be informed by a colleague, after > he/she > looked at it for about 42 milliseconds, that they missed out on another > "Purloined Letter"... Sometimes, 42 ms after I explain

Re: Bug in DFSORT? [WAS: Merging multiple records using DFSORT]

2021-01-15 Thread Robert Prins
On 2021-01-15 16:22, Sri h Kolusu wrote: Please don't patronise me with high "coding standards", you banned me from your forum when I commented on the fact that you suggested using UNSPEC() to look at the internal representation of z/OS HEX FLOAT values in order top print them in a PL/I

Re: clarification please - is z/OSMF required for migrating z/OS from v2.3 to v2.4 ?

2021-01-15 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 10:34:12 -0500, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: >While z/OSMF is not strictly required for upgrading z/OS V2.3 to V2.4, >it is highly recommended, specifically for the z/OS V2.4 Upgrade Workflow: >

Re: JCL to tar USS directory

2021-01-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 10:12:52 -0500, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: >On 1/14/2021 10:10 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: >> can anyone provide JCL to tar a USS directory? >//PAX EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH >//STDPARM DD * >PGM /bin/pax -zvwf /u/user/paxfile.pax.Z >/directory/to/be/paxed/ >/* Must that second line

Re: Bug in DFSORT? [WAS: Merging multiple records using DFSORT]

2021-01-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> > Please don't patronise me with high "coding standards", you banned > me from your > forum when I commented on the fact that you suggested using UNSPEC() > to look at > the internal representation of z/OS HEX FLOAT values in order top > print them in > a PL/I program, and then deleted the

Re: clarification please - is z/OSMF required for migrating z/OS from v2.3 to v2.4 ?

2021-01-15 Thread Jousma, David
" However, IBM's plan is to eventually require z/OSMF for future software installation. We have not yet announced when or for which product releases, but it's certainly past time to start getting comfortable with z/OSMF in general." Hopefully well after I retire Unless it is made really

Re: Bug in DFSORT? [WAS: Merging multiple records using DFSORT]

2021-01-15 Thread Robert Prins
On 2021-01-15 11:50, Sri h Kolusu wrote: So what's so special about 80? 9, 41 and 44 are unique in the entire set of >sort control statements, and 80 also doesn't appear, yet replacing 44 by 80 >results in incorrect output. I've gone over it again and again, but I'm totally clueless, unless

Re: clarification please - is z/OSMF required for migrating z/OS from v2.3 to v2.4 ?

2021-01-15 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 1/15/2021 10:00 AM, Bruce Lightsey wrote: I am not one of the system programmers but have been tasked with getting this answer for them (and to manage them). My systems guys like SMPe and ServerPacks, etc but z/OSMF is “Alienware” to them – must I tell them to get over it and go with the

Re: [External] clarification please - is z/OSMF required for migrating z/OS from v2.3 to v2.4 ?

2021-01-15 Thread Pommier, Rex
No, it is not required. I upgraded from 2.2 to 2.4 6 months ago using a serverpack. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 9:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] clarification please - is

Re: clarification please - is z/OSMF required for migrating z/OS from v2.3 to v2.4 ?

2021-01-15 Thread Steve Beaver
The biggest thing is to the ZFS mounted that contains all the objects for the zOS for the release in question. Once you do that it takes a little customization and adding the STC’s Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 15, 2021, at 09:04, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) >

Re: clarification please - is z/OSMF required for migrating z/OS from v2.3 to v2.4 ?

2021-01-15 Thread Carmen Vitullo
  z/OSMF is not required but downloading and using the workflows into z/OSMF, which replaced the migration guide really helps with migration actions IMHO. I was very hesitant to use z/OSMF and the workflow, I found it aided in my migration Carmen Vitullo -Original Message-

Re: JCL to tar USS directory

2021-01-15 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 1/14/2021 10:10 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: can anyone provide JCL to tar a USS directory? //PAX EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH //STDPARM DD * PGM /bin/pax -zvwf /u/user/paxfile.pax.Z /directory/to/be/paxed/ /* //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

Re: clarification please - is z/OSMF required for migrating z/OS from v2.3 to v2.4 ?

2021-01-15 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Yes, if they want the upgrade workflow. No, at this time the ServerPac is still doable outside of z/OSMF. z/OSMF is definitely the future. They've procrastinated long enough!  -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bruce Lightsey Sent: Friday, January

clarification please - is z/OSMF required for migrating z/OS from v2.3 to v2.4 ?

2021-01-15 Thread Bruce Lightsey
I am not one of the system programmers but have been tasked with getting this answer for them (and to manage them). My systems guys like SMPe and ServerPacks, etc but z/OSMF is “Alienware” to them – must I tell them to get over it and go with the workflow ? Thanks Bruce Bruce Lightsey

Re: JCL to tar USS directory

2021-01-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 02:55:30 -0600, Jantje wrote: >On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:00:21 -0600, Bill Giannelli wrote: > >>can anyone provide JCL to tar a USS directory? > Tar is obsolescent, largely replaced by pax with added features. >IMHO, if you are going to do anything in Unix on mainframe, you

Re: Bug in DFSORT? [WAS: Merging multiple records using DFSORT]

2021-01-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>So what's so special about 80? 9, 41 and 44 are unique in the entire set of >sort control statements, and 80 also doesn't appear, yet replacing 44 by 80 >results in incorrect output. >I've gone over it again and again, but I'm totally clueless, unless this is >one of those bugs that nobody's

Re: CICS and COBOL DISPLAY UPON CONSOLE

2021-01-15 Thread Jantje.
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:55:39 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >I just accidentally did a DISPLAY UPON CONSOLE statement in a CICS program I would recommend using E C WRITE OPEARTOR if you really need to talk through the console. Cheers, Jantje.

Re: JCL to tar USS directory

2021-01-15 Thread Jantje.
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:00:21 -0600, Bill Giannelli wrote: >can anyone provide JCL to tar a USS directory? IMHO, if you are going to do anything in Unix on mainframe, you want to use Co:Z from DovetailedTechnologies: https://www.dovetail.com/index.html I am not affiliated in any way with