Re: ERBSCAN in batch

2021-05-11 Thread kekronbekron
Excellent, indeed. Thank you! - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 3:51 AM, Alan Young wrote: > The summary of records report in the REXX is produced by program ERBMFSCN. > There is sample JCL on how to call that in ERBSMFSC. > > -Original Message- > > >

Re: Pronunciations (spun off of another thread)

2021-05-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
We used the term in the 1960's in the UK. The Aussies probably pinched it after the invasion of Barry Humphries and Bazza McKenzie. On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 7:25 AM Charles Mills wrote: > Someone corrected me that it is Australian, not British, usage. > > >

Re: Pronunciations (spun off of another thread)

2021-05-11 Thread Charles Mills
And that is why, if a hacker installs a root kit on your server, you are really screwed. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 2:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: ERBSCAN in batch

2021-05-11 Thread Alan Young
The summary of records report in the REXX is produced by program ERBMFSCN. There is sample JCL on how to call that in ERBSMFSC. -Original Message- >From: kekronbekron <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> >Sent: May 7, 2021 8:10 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject:

Re: Pronunciations (spun off of another thread)

2021-05-11 Thread Charles Mills
Someone corrected me that it is Australian, not British, usage. https://sites.google.com/site/oshearobertp/publications/words-americans-should-avoid-saying-to-australasians Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: Pronunciations (spun off of another thread)

2021-05-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:01:55 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >Really? I haven't heard that one. Can I find the British definition of >"root" in a dictionary somewhere (so as to spare those present the >embarrassment of explaining)? > https://www.google.com/search?q=root+strine -- gil

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tue, 11 May 2021 12:49:47 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Thanks; I asked because I was editing >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMS_file_system and there was a footnote > referring to cuu addresses. I've added some text that I hope puts things in > context. There are other issues with that

Re: Pronunciations (spun off of another thread)

2021-05-11 Thread Bob Bridges
Really? I haven't heard that one. Can I find the British definition of "root" in a dictionary somewhere (so as to spare those present the embarrassment of explaining)? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Religion is the last stronghold of freedom. When the state

Re: Pronunciations (spun off of another thread)

2021-05-11 Thread Bob Bridges
Actually I hear "rooot" and "rout" pretty much interchangeably, depending on where you are in the US. I may be wrong, but I think it was usually "rooot" in the Midwest, "rout" east of the Appalachians. I may be remembering wrong, though. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336

Re: Pronunciations (spun off of another thread)

2021-05-11 Thread Bob Bridges
Ah, Bloomington-Normal. I did some months more than a decade ago, and I still remember it fondly. The work I did at State Farm didn't please me so much, but as a place to live, Bloomington suited me right to the ground: Just the right size, in wide flat country where I can see the sky for

Re: Pronunciations (spun off of another thread)

2021-05-11 Thread Bob Bridges
Never heard "immz". I have heard "zoss". Regarding "ra-keff" (but further afield), when I moved from the Midwest to Pennsylvania I noticed that many people pronounced my birth state "wess-KAHN-sin". We always say "wih-SKAHN-sin". Subtle difference in the 'k' sound, but it was plain enough

Re: Remembering . . . [was:RE: 3270 emulator / telnet with encryption]

2021-05-11 Thread Bob Bridges
Annette Funicello was before I was sexually aware, I think, but I was still in love with her for reasons I couldn't explain now. And yes, I can probably still sing all the words of the Disney song. I adore Judi Dench, but only as an actress. My heart goes pitty-pat for brunettes: Lucy Liu,

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Steve Smith
And no doubt you are... but it seems odd that what appears to be a standard use of system symbols gets hijacked in a rather unintuitive and afaik undocumented way. And I wonder why anyone would think it useful. sas On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 3:46 PM Jim Mulder wrote: > " I endeavor to be

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Jim Mulder
" I endeavor to be accurate." Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" wrote on 05/11/2021 02:24:08 PM: > From: "Mark Jacobs" <0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date:

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
That's exactly where IBM support went to when they reviewed one of the dumps I sent them. I passed the information to our developers for their analysis. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key -

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Jim Mulder
That's a good question. The answer is that SDUMP uses the timestamp from the incident token. Per the SDUMP(X) documentation: ,INTOKEN=token addr Specifies the address of a 32-byte area that contains an incident token previously built by an IEAINTKN macro. If register notation is used,

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Does SDUMP use the current time or the reader start time for the address space? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mark Jacobs

Re: Storage Zoning clarification

2021-05-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yes, but that does mean that z/OS has at least limited support for DASD that don't look like ECKD. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Peter Vander Woude

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
I don't think we have any products like that, but I've asked my team. We're a software development organization, so I think it's unlikely we'd need it. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key -

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Dave Jousma
>Date and time are correct, the timestamp on the log shows it. Just the dataset >name for the dump has the wrong date/time. Mark, Is it possible that they could be running some tool like HourGlass fooling around with date/time?

Re: Storage Zoning clarification

2021-05-11 Thread Peter Vander Woude
FCP connected SCSI drives is done via san zoning. Considering that IOSFBA is a function within z/OS. I don't know how that connectivity works. Peter On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:47:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >What about IOSFBA and FCP connected SCSI drives? > > >-- >Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
Date and time are correct, the timestamp on the log shows it. Just the dataset name for the dump has the wrong date/time. Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would check the system date D T Is GMT and Local correct? Is something doing a T CLOCK command? Maybe add some automation when the dump is being taken to do a D T Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021

Re: XMITIP - NLS support for Arabic character

2021-05-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 May 2021 10:21:28 +0400, Peter wrote: >Hi > >I understand CSSMTPA Doesnt support IBM-420 , but I guess ICONV services >can be used to define a new arabic code page. > >I have never used ICONV services before, is there a document which helps to >understand the usage of ICONV ? >

Re: Storage Zoning clarification

2021-05-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
What about IOSFBA and FCP connected SCSI drives? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Peter Vander Woude [pwo...@harristeeter.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11,

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
Not that I'm aware of. I'll ask around. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, May 11th, 2021 at 11:24 AM, Jim Mulder wrote: > Does

Re: Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Jim Mulder
Does your system have a a clock simulation program like IBM Hourglass installed? Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" wrote on 05/11/2021 10:24:44 AM: > From: "Mark Jacobs"

Dynamically allocated dump dataset, wrong date/time in DSN

2021-05-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
Our DUMPDS name pattern is set to this, DD NAME=SDUMP. Most of the time dump datasets are allocated with the right date/timestamps, but every so often (or so I've been told) we get something like this; 21131 04:41:28.58 S0382268 0090 IEA794I SVC DUMP HAS CAPTURED: 837 837 0090

Re: Storage Zoning clarification

2021-05-11 Thread Peter Vander Woude
I can comment on this, as I do san admin (along with z/OS and a couple of other things). From the z/OS perspective, it only deals with 3390 dasd architecture, and 3490/3590 tapes, and is connected via FICON, which may or may not go thru a FICON director. On the ficon director there is a

Re: STIMERM LT value

2021-05-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 May 2021 08:54:05 +1000, Attila Fogarasi wrote: >Z/os has to handle arbitrary TIMEZONE values -- and does it well. Keep in >mind that there are dozens of world locations that have non-hour timezone > It does it poorly. Of the "dozens of world locations" any z/OS system handles only

Re: How companies are moving on from Cobol?

2021-05-11 Thread Ramsey Hallman
About 10 years ago I was working at a firm in Southern California. They hired a new VP over the technology area. His goal in life was to get off the mainframe. He convinced the powers above that he could run the entire workload currently on a S/390 on a quad processor running Windows, saving

Re: When did CMS stop requiring S/370 mode?

2021-05-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Thanks; I asked because I was editing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMS_file_system and there was a footnote referring to cuu addresses. I've added some text that I hope puts things in context. Are there online documents listing the change dates? If so, I probably should add citations. --

Re: How companies are moving on from Cobol?

2021-05-11 Thread Colin Paice
It would be interesting to see the true cost after migrating to the new systems. 20 years ago I remember seeing a comparison which showed going off the main frame was going to save Mega bucks for someone. When you dug into it little things like 1. They had configured a top of the range z/OS

Re: How companies are moving on from Cobol?

2021-05-11 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Now it's popular "how to survive in cloud environment". I used to ask "why do you want to go there?" Answers? From nothing to aggression. BTW: Last few years I had to learn about banking system and Windows. It's not piece of sh*t. It is much worse. They really lack of obvious and basic

Re: How companies are moving on from Cobol?

2021-05-11 Thread Bill Johnson
I love when they call or insinuate that the mainframe isn’t modern. The tech inside the z15 is more modern than any platform. It’s like calling a car of  today old technology just because cars are over 100 years old. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 7:12 AM, Robert

How companies are moving on from Cobol?

2021-05-11 Thread Robert Prins
https://www.infoworld.com/article/3617936/how-companies-are-moving-on-from-cobol.html Commenting on the many very questionable claims is of course not possible, sigh -- Robert AH Prins robert.ah.prins(a)gmail.com The hitchhiking grandfather - https://prino.neocities.org/ Some REXX code for

Re: STIMERM LT value

2021-05-11 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/11/2021 1:40 AM, Steve Austin wrote: And apparently, "someone pointed out that the hardware clock was 1 minute out, so a minute was added". I don't know, but my guess is that the person setting up the Jenkins builds noticed the clock was wrong. We experienced significant clock drift on

Re: New game for z/OS platform!

2021-05-11 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
No, it's not 24-bit. This is full size game for the newest hardware and software. BTW: In order to reduce noise please send the requests off-list. Our sales department will process it promptly. -- Radoslaw Skorupka (looking for new job) Lodz, Poland W dniu 11.05.2021 o 02:58, Mike Schwab

Re: STIMERM LT value

2021-05-11 Thread Steve Austin
In answer to some of the questions below. The SYSLOG does appear to be ahead of my watch, but only by about 10 seconds. SVN is subversion and Jenkin should have been Jenkins. Using TIME STCKE,ZONE=LT gave a similar result; 0759 2495 05112021 Entering env date in omvs gave "Tue

Re: XMITIP - NLS support for Arabic character

2021-05-11 Thread Peter
Hi I understand CSSMTPA Doesnt support IBM-420 , but I guess ICONV services can be used to define a new arabic code page. I have never used ICONV services before, is there a document which helps to understand the usage of ICONV ? On Sun, 9 May, 2021, 9:11 pm Lizette Koehler, wrote: > I might