Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:03:25 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In <0461273688451840.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu>, on >10/23/2012 > at 07:56 AM, Tom Marchant said: > >>I do see where it has, "The Pack instruction does not check >>zones, except in the rightmost byte..." It

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0461273688451840.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu>, on 10/23/2012 at 07:56 AM, Tom Marchant said: >Hmmm If so, I don't see the errors. Perhaps it has been >corrected. This is the -6 edition of the book, published in August, >1970. I do see where it has, "The Pack instruc

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-23 Thread Angela DeBoo
Subject: Re: Book Enquiry The prices vary from 50€ to 300€ depending. If you really need it, shop around a bit, just like any antique book you may look for. Granted, it would be wonderful if he kept it up to date, like when he talked about PC routines. The thing that I liked best is how it

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-23 Thread Lindy Mayfield
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Raj Singh Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 6:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Book Enquiry Hi Listers, Been a while that I am looking for 2nd edition-"Advanced assembler programming and MVS interfaces" by Carmine Cannatello.I

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 03:47:51 -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote: > >... >The O/S continues being developed, as does the hardware, ... > And the hardware far outpaces the OS. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access in

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-23 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:59:27 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) In <6921522608355946.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu>, on >10/22/2012 > at 11:50 AM, Tom Marchant said: > >>"A Programmer's >>Introduction to IBM System/360 Assembler Language - Student Text". > >The one with the incorrect ex

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-23 Thread Paul Gillis
> Indeed. > And given the dearth of opportunities I see advertised and sites disappearing, > hard to argue. > The O/S continues being developed, as does the hardware, but the puddle we > all play in continues to evaporate. > > Shane ... Retirement is just around the corner, as that puddle shrinks

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:06:40 -0500, Shmuel wrote: > at 06:42 PM, shai hess said: > >>Sorry if I hurt anybody feeling but if we inform about closing >>sites why I can not post what I posted? > >You can; you have as much authority as ted does. Indeed. And given the dearth of opportunities I see

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/22/2012 at 06:42 PM, shai hess said: >Sorry if I hurt anybody feeling but if we inform about closing >sites why I can not post what I posted? You can; you have as much authority as ted does. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Steve Comstock
On 10/22/2012 9:03 AM, Raj Singh wrote: Hi Listers, Been a while that I am looking for 2nd edition-"Advanced assembler programming and MVS interfaces" by Carmine Cannatello.I have checked on Barnes and Noble and Amazon,was wondering if the used one's are worth a buy.Any other suggestions(like eb

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <6921522608355946.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu>, on 10/22/2012 at 11:50 AM, Tom Marchant said: >If you are looking for an introductory text for learning Assembler, >you could go to bitsavers and download IBM's "A Programmer's >Introduction to IBM System/360 Assembler Language -

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <93891f43642f3c419a7d75acc2b1db6f3cc0958...@exchangemb2.dhs.state.ia.us>, on 10/22/2012 at 11:22 AM, "Roberts, John J" said: >I am waiting for computer historians to recognize that my library of >Donald Knuth books is in the same class as the Dead Sea Scrolls, >Magna Charta, etc. Not unles

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread John Gilmore
The antecedents of Donald Ervin Knuth---not 'Erwin', as in Erwin Rommel usw.---are Scandinavian, not German. Still, Gerhard got it right, voiced 'K', silent 'h', roughly 'Knoot' in Swedish and most other Scandinavian languages, Finnish of course excepted. My own view is that a candidate having a

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Scott Ford
my > decision to barter a cold book for a hot coffee. > > time to take a sip. > > > > - Original Message - From: "Richard Tsujimoto" > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main > To: > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: Book Enq

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 10/22/2012 12:22 PM, Roberts, John J wrote: I am waiting for computer historians to recognize that my library of Donald Knuth books is in the same class as the Dead Sea Scrolls, Magna Charta, etc. ;-) Maybe I'll get rich. You won't get too many takers for a Magna "Charta" Actually, speaki

Re: Donald Knuth and The Art of Computer Programming - was RE: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Roberts, John J Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 5:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Donald Knuth and The Art of Computer Programming - was RE: Book Enquiry >Ah, but unless you implemented the CICS fences for the storage pieces, it must >have been a bear when the apps starte

Re: Donald Knuth and The Art of Computer Programming - was RE: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Roberts, John J
>Ah, but unless you implemented the CICS fences for the storage pieces, it must >have been a bear when the apps started over-running memory. If I can recall correctly, we did a few things to address this problem: (1) We forced the minimum allocation to be 256 bytes. So small buffer overruns di

Re: Donald Knuth and The Art of Computer Programming - was RE: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
4:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Donald Knuth and The Art of Computer Programming - was RE: Book Enquiry Errr ??? I'm skeptical. Suppose the address is 0, relative to the base of the managed storage pool. What's its size? Which is the buddy? I may be a bit h

Re: Donald Knuth and The Art of Computer Programming - was RE: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Chip Grantham
2 03:22 PM Subject:Re: Donald Knuth and The Art of Computer Programming - was RE: Book Enquiry Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List Errr ??? I'm skeptical. Suppose the address is 0, relative to the base of the managed storage pool. What's its size? Which is the b

Re: Donald Knuth and The Art of Computer Programming - was RE: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Roberts, John J
Errr ??? I'm skeptical. Suppose the address is 0, relative to the base of the managed storage pool. What's its size? Which is the buddy? I may be a bit hazy on the details. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_memory_allocation for something a bit more accurate. What I am not hazy on is

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Fairchild
Singh Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Book Enquiry Hi Listers, I am overwhelmed by the response from this group.Thanks to all and to those who are ready to sell me the book(will send a separate mail to them). Tried to search for Mr Carmine's em

Re: Donald Knuth and The Art of Computer Programming - was RE: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:56:49 -0500, Roberts, John J wrote: >>http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/taocp.html#vol4 > >I have an interesting story to tell regarding Volume 1 of The Art of Computer >Programming. Buried within this tome is an algorithm for storage allocation >and de-allocation.

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:37:04 -0700, Robin Wayne Jackson, HCL America wrote: >That is not North Dakota, represented by ND it is Notre Dame. Besides the >author mentioned Knute Rockne and the Gipper. > De! >'The King of Hearts is the only king WITHOUT a moustache' > >No piece of paper

Donald Knuth and The Art of Computer Programming - was RE: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Roberts, John J
>http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/taocp.html#vol4 I think Mike's point is that Professor Knuth is still alive and actively writing at Stanford. When I was given a copy of Volume 1 back in 1972, I expected Professor Knuth to be some 60-ish professor, complete with a tweed suit, pipe and

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Raj Singh Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Book Enquiry Hi Listers, Been a while that I am looking for 2nd edition-"Advanced assembler programming and MVS

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Raj Singh
erica > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Book Enquiry > > That is not North Dakota, represented by ND it is Notre Dame. Besides the > author mentioned Knute Rockne and the Gipper. > > Rob Jackson > HCL America (Contracto

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/taocp.html#vol4 On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: >>Actually, speaking of Professor Knuth, I use his name as an interview >>question. Any Candidate that doesn't immediately recognize the name doesn't >>get my recommendation. >> >>J

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Fairchild
rame Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Robin Wayne Jackson, HCL America Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Book Enquiry That is not North Dakota, represented by ND it is Notre Dame. Besides the author mentioned Knute Rockne

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Mike Schwab
http://xkcd.com/163/ On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Roberts, John J wrote: > Actually, speaking of Professor Knuth, I use his name as an interview > question. Any Candidate that doesn't immediately recognize the name doesn't > get my recommendation. > > John -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Robin Wayne Jackson, HCL America
es. Oh go ahead, I'll wait... From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild [bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Book Enquiry I

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Mike Schwab
Almost everything you do (did) under S/370 does still run under z/OS 1.13, excluding ISAM, VSAM IMBED / REPLICATE characteristics. Everything done under S/360 that was incorporated into S/370 is included. You could download the Turnkey3 CD and run it on your PC as a developement environment. If you

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Fairchild
ssion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Pinion Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Book Enquiry Knuth Rockne, wasn't he the coach of ND when the Gipper played :)? Richard and Vickie Pinion --- jrobe...@dhs.state.i

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Rob Schramm
Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Tom Marchant > Sent: Monday, 22 October 2012 10:51 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Book Enquiry > > > Yes, System/360. It is dated but there is useful stuff in th

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
>Actually, speaking of Professor Knuth, I use his name as an interview >question. Any Candidate that doesn't immediately recognize the name doesn't >get my recommendation. > >John We're not worthy We're not worthy. Lizette

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Grinsell, Don
A.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Monday, 22 October 2012 10:51 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Book Enquiry Yes, System/360. It is dated but there is useful stuff in there. Ignore the parts about coding forms. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/360/asm/SC20-1646-6_int360a

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread shai hess
> > Why is such a demand for this book? I have a copy, although I've made > > scant > > use of it. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > > Behalf Of Bob Shannon > > Sent: Monda

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
27;! I'll go back into hibernation, now. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: shai hess Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:06:38 To: Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: R

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Tony's office PC
mbler career ran its course after that, prompting my decision to barter a cold book for a hot coffee. time to take a sip. - Original Message - From: "Richard Tsujimoto" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:07 AM Subject: Re:

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Richard Pinion
Knuth Rockne, wasn't he the coach of ND when the Gipper played :)? Richard and Vickie Pinion --- jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us wrote: From: "Roberts, John J" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Book Enquiry Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:22:09 -0500 >

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Roberts, John J
>I'll sell you mine for $200 plus shipping, unless someone else outbids you. I am waiting for computer historians to recognize that my library of Donald Knuth books is in the same class as the Dead Sea Scrolls, Magna Charta, etc. ;-) Maybe I'll get rich. Or maybe my collection of BYTE Magazine

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
That was cold. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony's office PC Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Book Enquiry Several years ago I traded my copy for a NY Yankees c

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread shai hess
gt; From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Bob Shannon > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:32 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Book Enquiry > > > 2nd edition-"Advanced assembler programming and MVS interfaces" by

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Tony's office PC
she's a Yankees fan who's suffered through a bad year. - Original Message - From: "Richard Tsujimoto" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Book Enquiry Why is such a demand for this book? I have a copy

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
rom: Richard Tsujimoto >Sent: Oct 22, 2012 8:37 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Book Enquiry > >Why is such a demand for this book? I have a copy, although I've made scant >use of it. > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Why is such a demand for this book? I have a copy, although I've made scant use of it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Bob Shannon
> 2nd edition-"Advanced assembler programming and MVS interfaces" by Carmine > Cannatello I'll sell you mine for $200 plus shipping, unless someone else outbids you. Bob Shannon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acc

Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
On Amazon I think it lists for $200.00 I would not pay that much for the book. You might try contacting Carmine directly. He might know of other sources. Lizette -Original Message- >From: Raj Singh >Sent: Oct 22, 2012 8:03 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: