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> >> I'm thinking that just because one article
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 21:56:22 -0400, William Donzelli wrote:
>> I'm thinking that just because
On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 21:56:22 -0400, William Donzelli wrote:
>> I'm thinking that just because one article says the story is urban legend,
>> there are more references that talk to the FirstRand I actually being
>> installed on a US Navy ship.
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> They had three 3211 disk drives
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That reminds me of an incident in my first ever job on a 360/25
They had three 3211 disk drives and wer
: DASD nostalgia
Nothing as drastic as the alleged FastRand, but I can vouch for 3330 and
3330-equivalent drives dancing. My boss told me to write a program that started
at the middle of the pack and then did seeks in and out to the first untouched
cylinder until it had hit every cylinder. I told
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:35 AM Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Nothing as drastic as the alleged FastRand, but I can vouch for 3330 and
> 3330-equivalent drives dancing. My boss told me to write a program that
> started at the middle of the pack and then did seeks in and out to the
> first untouched cy
, July 23, 2019 12:29 PM
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> OK, you are referring to Seymours alleged drum tearing loose on a navy ship.
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> Mea Culpa. I read this as you disputing that the Navy installed FirstRand 1
> on its ships.
Just a misunderstand,
> OK, you are referring to Seymours alleged drum tearing loose on a navy ship.
>
> Mea Culpa. I read this as you disputing that the Navy installed FirstRand 1
> on its ships.
Just a misunderstand, pretty much.
> There are a references to this model being a dancing behemoth, and that the
> count
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> I recall hearing about a UNIVAC shipboard computer where the drum ripped
> loose from the deck when the ship was maneuvering quickly.
This is
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>I recall hearing about a UNIVAC shipboard computer where the drum ripped loose
>from the deck when the ship was maneuvering quickly.
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> I'm thinking that just because one article says the story is urban legend,
> there are more references that talk to the FirstRand I actually being
> installed on a US Navy sh
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> I'm thinking that just because one article says the story is urban legend,
> there are more references that talk to the FirstRand I actually being
> installed on a US Navy ship.
I have no doubts about a Fastrand being on installed on a ship. I have
my doubts about the spinning drum causing hav
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> > We had a profess
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> We had a professor who wa
> We had a professor who was on the inspection team out of the Navy Yard. Said
> the drum popped out and churned around like a 4000lb weed-eater for several
> minutes. I believe Adm. Hopper was on the review board and after a short
> synopsis. "Just stupid!"
If you could dig up the original ins
We had a professor who was on the inspection team out of the Navy Yard. Said
the drum popped out and churned around like a 4000lb weed-eater for several
minutes. I believe Adm. Hopper was on the review board and after a short
synopsis. "Just stupid!"
In a message dated 7/22/2019 6:32:27 PM Cen
> Not myth.
Primary source info, please!
Otherwise, it is, as they even say in the video, a "legend".
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Not myth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luPM6XaKZuUIn a message dated 7/22/2019 5:07:32
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This is a myth. Warships of the era (1960s/70s) are loaded with really
big heavy spinning things (motor-generators and amplidynes), and they
do not rip o
On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 19:20:33 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>I recall hearing about a UNIVAC shipboard computer where the drum ripped loose
>from the deck when the ship was maneuvering quickly.
>
I have heard this story called apocryphal, as on the FASTRAND page:
https://www.fourmilab.ch/docum
> I recall hearing about a UNIVAC shipboard computer where the drum ripped
> loose from the deck when the ship was maneuvering quickly.
This is a myth. Warships of the era (1960s/70s) are loaded with really
big heavy spinning things (motor-generators and amplidynes), and they
do not rip off the d
, July 19, 2019 5:51 PM
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I mentioned a while ago remembering a friend's long-ago story about disk
head crashes at DEC, resolved by rotating drive cabinet so platters
aligned with loading dock of old mill building (rather than rotating
perpendicul
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I mentioned a while ago remembering a friend's long-ago story about disk head
crashes at DEC, resolved by rotating drive cabinet so platters aligned with
loading dock of old mill building (rather than rotating perpendicular to
I mentioned a while ago remembering a friend's long-ago story about disk
head crashes at DEC, resolved by rotating drive cabinet so platters
aligned with loading dock of old mill building (rather than rotating
perpendicular to dock's orientation). Problem had been head crashes when
trucks backe
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