Let's start correcting our subject typos now.
Bill Fairchild
- Original Message -
From: "David Crayford"
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:42:02 AM
Subject: Re: "Feebie" software
On 4/07/2014 11:37 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 11:18:12
If you substitute 'free' with 'included with the OS' you have software and
tools that you can depend on to be available at any site you find yourself
working at. Debug tool, HLASM toolkit, and all other ISV's may or may not be
available.
Dana
>
>From: "David Crayford"
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSE
On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:44:30 -0500, Dana Mitchell wrote:
>If you substitute 'free' with 'included with the OS' you have software and
>tools that you can depend on to be available at any site you find yourself
>working at. Debug tool, HLASM toolkit, and all other ISV's may or may not be
>avail
On 7/7/2014 8:17 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
Such is the life of a wandering mistral.
Surely there's a good pun lurking in here, right?
--
Bob Woodside
Woodsway Consulting, Inc.
http://www.woodsway.com
rwoodsi...@woodsway.com
---
Shane:
That an issue... wondering minstrel... I have been an 4 shops where
wondering minstrels have left their "tools" and I have to clean up
and listen to 30 (or so people) complain about this used to work.
Sorry BTDTGTS I don't accept that answer.
Ed
On Jul 7, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Shane G
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
> Shane:
>
> That an issue... wondering minstrel... I have been an 4 shops where
> wondering minstrels have left their "tools" and I have to clean up and
> listen to 30 (or so people) complain about this used to work. Sorry BTDTGTS
> I don't accept
Shane is entitled to explicate his own references or indeed not to do
so, and local connotations may anyway vary: (Here in the Boston,
Massachusetts, area where French food of any sort is usually mediocre
we have a bistrot, Mistral, that serves high-quality provençal food.)
More usually Le Mist
On 8/07/2014 9:13 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
Shane is entitled to explicate his own references or indeed not to do
so, and local connotations may anyway vary: (Here in the Boston,
Massachusetts, area where French food of any sort is usually mediocre
we have a bistrot, Mistral, that serves high-qu
DANGER! OFF-TOPIC POST! Read on at your own risk!...
David Crayford wrote:
>Having said that, a true aussie favorite is a meat pie with tomato sauce
>dolloped on top!
Tomato sauce? Yuck, for me at least, to pour tomato sauce on food is a ghastly
insult to the poor chef or anyone who kindly pre
I'm not sure that I understand all of the arguments in this thread. Welcome
to IBM-MAIN :-)
Outside of the z/OS realm, people mostly understand that various aspects of
software can be decoupled:
- license to use - (free or paid). Commercial licenses often include
warranties, indemnities, etc.
-
On Jul 8, 2014, at 7:15 AM, John McKown wrote:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Ed Gould
wrote:
Shane:
That an issue... wondering minstrel... I have been an 4 shops where
wondering minstrels have left their "tools" and I have to clean up
and
listen to 30 (or so people) complain about this
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
> You are in a difficult situation (much like all of Texas).
>
> Personally I hope you don't get awakened at 0030 with an issue and
> production is now broken.
Ah. I was unclear. My use of Co:Z is only in a non-production run (not
even controlled b
On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:18 PM, John McKown wrote:
--
SNIP
Well, unfortunately, I am tasked to do things. So it is use what I
have available to me because we _aren't_ going to get supported
products which cost real money. And z/OS i
In another shop, and all my previous employers, I did as you said. No
unsupported "freebies". In this shop, saying no is to be placed at the top
of the RIF list for not being a "team player". And "not supportive".
Hopefully, if/when I get a new employer, I can do things the proper way.
On Jul 8, 2
In
,
on 07/08/2014
at 10:17 AM, Kirk Wolf said:
>It seems as if some on this thread assume that there are only two
>kinds of software: 1) closed-source; paid license and support 2)
>free without support (sometimes with source).
3.) Closed source; paid license but no support[1]
4.) Free wi
On Jul 8, 2014, at 7:06 PM, John McKown wrote:
In another shop, and all my previous employers, I did as you said. No
unsupported "freebies". In this shop, saying no is to be placed at
the top
of the RIF list for not being a "team player". And "not supportive".
Hopefully, if/when I get a new
On 8/07/2014 11:17 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
I'm not sure that I understand all of the arguments in this thread. Welcome
to IBM-MAIN :-)
That was my fault and I apologize to the list for the digression. It was
a misjudged attempt at humor and I shall refrain
from doing so in future.
It seems as
That works both ways Ed.
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Ed Gould
> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 9:15 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Freebie software; was "Feeb
On 9/07/2014 5:18 AM, John McKown wrote:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
You are in a difficult situation (much like all of Texas).
Personally I hope you don't get awakened at 0030 with an issue and
production is now broken.
Ah. I was unclear. My use of Co:Z is only in a non-
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:39 AM, David Crayford wrote:
> On 9/07/2014 5:18 AM, John McKown wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You are in a difficult situation (much like all of Texas).
>>>
>>> Personally I hope you don't get awakened at 0030 with an issue and
>
> On 9 Jul 2014, at 8:47 pm, John McKown wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:39 AM, David Crayford wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/07/2014 5:18 AM, John McKown wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
>>>
>>>
You are in a difficult situation (much like all of Texas).
>>
In <21c7a156-000c-4c46-94b1-2d0127f14...@comcast.net>, on 07/08/2014
at 05:50 PM, Ed Gould said:
>Maybe the problem is you got into this position by your own
>permissive behavior
The problem is not putting unsupported software into production; the
problem is putting code into production wit
On 8/07/2014 9:43 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
DANGER! OFF-TOPIC POST! Read on at your own risk!...
David Crayford wrote:
Having said that, a true aussie favorite is a meat pie with tomato sauce
dolloped on top!
Tomato sauce? Yuck, for me at least, to pour tomato sauce on food is a ghastly
David Crayford wrote:
>Food snob!
Of course. ;-)
>But you mob don't mind chewing on biltong or dolloping monkey gland on your
>sausages! :)
As long it is Kudu biltong, not some lame cattle or ostrich biltong. ;-D
Now, I can't post anymore because you made me hungry ...
;-D
Groete / Greeti
e: Freebie software; was "Feebie" software
On 8/07/2014 9:43 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
> DANGER! OFF-TOPIC POST! Read on at your own risk!...
>
> David Crayford wrote:
>
>> Having said that, a true aussie favorite is a meat pie with tomato sauce
>> dolloped on
AM
Subject: OT: Re: Freebie software; was "Feebie" software
On 8/07/2014 9:43 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
> DANGER! OFF-TOPIC POST! Read on at your own risk!...
>
> David Crayford wrote:
>
>> Having said that, a true aussie favorite is a meat pie with tomato sauce
>
ernational cuisine; was Re: OT: Re: Freebie software;
was "Feebie" software
Biltong is interesting, monkey gland is way too bland. I prefer Peri-peri on
mine, thanks. Maximum strength, of course.
Bill Fairchild
- Original Message -
From: "David Crayford"
To: IBM-MAIN@
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Ken Porowski
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: international cuisine; was Re: OT: Re: Freebie software; was
"Feebie" software
I have heard tell of a dish they call haggis.
CIT | Ke
ent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 10:46 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] international cuisine; was Re: OT: Re: Freebie
> software; was "Feebie" software
>
> Don't forget chitlin's & grits
>
> -Original Message---
I just got in 4 tins of Surströmming from Sweden to try for the first time.
Fish is about 6 inches long, height about 1 inch, quarter inch thick
after gutting.
Put into cans with low salt brine. Looked like smoked salmon, tasted
very salty like anchovies.
Just touching it with a fork and the meat
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