Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Charles Mills
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 7:05 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBMMAIN bounces and related issues
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Triangle
I subscribe via gmail.com webpage. I occasionally get bounces. It
looks like the email takes two routes to the list server and the
second is rejected as duplicate (the first gets posted). Possibility
of NSA copy leaking to list server.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Triangle
Charles
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Behalf Of David Crayford
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 10:28 PM
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On 16Feb22:0100-0600, Darren Evans-Young wrote:
> Define quality.
"Conformance to requirements" --Harold S. Geneen
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You'd better
There have been more ads on here for one.
Ed
On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:00 AM, Darren Evans-Young wrote:
Not sure how to take this comment...
Define quality.
Darren
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Ed Gould wrote:
Agreed, ever since Darren "retired" the quality of the list has
declined.
Ed
On Feb 21, 2016
I am posting this because of the timing. I am subscribed by email. As far as
I know, I have not had anything bounce. I have recently started receiving posts
marked BULK. About a fourth to a third are now marked that way, but they are
still delivered. Not sure if it is related.
For example,
I would suggest gnore this comment.
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Darren Evans-Young
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:00 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBMMAIN bounces
Charles Mills wrote:
>1. Is anyone else getting occasional bounces when posting to IBMMAIN? I have
>started getting them sometimes. A retry sometimes produces another bounce;
>eventually the post goes through, obviously.
How are you posting to IBM-MAIN? Via e-mail or via the IBM-MAIN webpage?
Not sure how to take this comment...
Define quality.
Darren
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016, Ed Gould wrote:
>Agreed, ever since Darren "retired" the quality of the list has
>declined.
>
>
>Ed
>On Feb 21, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
>
>SNIP-
On 22/02/2016 9:52 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
Although I think now they have co-located their servers at Sonic or someone
like that. Part of the reason, IIRC, is that their building is not real
rain-tight, and it rains a lot here in the Emerald Triangle.
Why is it called the Emerald Triangle?
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Agreed, ever since Darren "retired" the quality of the list has
declined.
Ed
On Feb 21, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
SNIP-
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Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Darren Evans-Young
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 5:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBMMAIN bounces and related issues
Let's not start inundating John Watters with emails about IBM-MAIN. I know
John and worked with him my entire career at UA. He was my manager most of
that time. I think the Helpdesk misrouted the problem to him. He has
nothing to do with Listserv. I will contact him.
Darren
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016,
J. Woehr
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 5:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBMMAIN bounces and related issues
Jack J. Woehr wrote:
> I'm assuming it's the "too often" problem There are other problems,
> e.g., intermittent misconfiguration of the request to ur
Jack J. Woehr wrote:
I'm assuming it's the "too often" problem There are other problems, e.g., intermittent misconfiguration of the request
to uribl.com that could cause uribl.com to refuse the request.
Another possibility ... I like this one ... is that your mail server is s-l-o-w to respond t
Charles Mills wrote:
I sent this once already but it seems to have disappeared entirely --
neither posted nor bounced.
I halfway "get" DNS and SMTP and all that but I am not sufficiently an
expert to debate with someone who thinks they are. Here is the server log
supplied by my ISP for one of th
I halfway "get" DNS and SMTP and all that but I am not sufficiently an
expert to debate with someone who thinks they are. Here is the server log
supplied by my ISP for one of the bounces:
Feb 20 10:51:42 mailfe qmail: 1455994302.150110 new msg 393337
(faf14e4e-d802-11e5-9c96-00505681fcd5)
Feb 20 1
I sent this once already but it seems to have disappeared entirely --
neither posted nor bounced.
I halfway "get" DNS and SMTP and all that but I am not sufficiently an
expert to debate with someone who thinks they are. Here is the server log
supplied by my ISP for one of the bounces:
Feb 20 10:5
age-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Jack J. Woehr
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 7:55 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] IBMMAIN bounces and related issues
>
> Charles Mills wrote:
> > Sev
Charles Mills wrote:
Seven greens and three yellows. I don't think it is a SPAM filter problem --
the server logs indicate it is a DNS problem.
Apparently UA is using URIBL to scope you out and botching the job.
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBMMAIN bounces and related issues
> On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:42:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
> >
>> >>1. Is anyone else getting occasional bounces when posting to IBMMAIN?
Charles could test his outgoing server on
http://www.all
My mistake, it's more subtle than that. UA's reverse lookup of your address was
blocked.
"If an email you sent bounced, and included a link to this page, then it was rejected because the receiver has not
implemented URIBL lookups correctly. URIBL uses bitmask responses to indicate a domain bein
CM Poncelet wrote:
These are the headers (starting from the bottom upwards), if it helps.
X-Gwh-Spam-Flags:
BAYES_00,FROM_LOCAL_HEX,FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,URIBL_BLOCKED
"URIBL_BLOCKED"
Your server won't reply to a reverse DNS query so it's scoring high on the spam
meter.
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:42:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>>1. Is anyone else getting occasional bounces when posting to IBMMAIN?
Charles could test his outgoing server on
http://www.allaboutspam.com/email-server-test/
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Subject: Re: IBMMAIN bounces and related issues
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Precedence: list
List-Help: <http://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?LIST=IBM-MAIN>,
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That makes it difficult to get support if some people at UA don't think
we exist. Obviously other group members are not having this message
bounce problem, which would seem to point to something unique in either
Charles' Email (that Email filters might misinterpret?) or in the mail
interface betwe
Maybe if a few of us forward this post to Mr. Waters he will realize that the
list is
still active. Then again, maybe he'll make sure that it is shut down.
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:42:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>1. Is anyone else getting occasional bounces when posting to IBMMAIN? I have
>sta
1. Is anyone else getting occasional bounces when posting to IBMMAIN? I have
started getting them sometimes. A retry sometimes produces another bounce;
eventually the post goes through, obviously.
2. I am on a small rural ISP. They do not have a roomful of high-powered
engineers. They recently cha
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