Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-02-03 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 03.02.2021 o 21:40, Tony Harminc pisze: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 at 11:36, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: Am 30.01.2021 um 00:39 schrieb Tony Harminc: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 18:21, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Few remarks: ... 4. Source code EBCDIC-ASCII translation. Example: I hate REXX

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-02-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 at 11:36, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: > > Am 30.01.2021 um 00:39 schrieb Tony Harminc: > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 18:21, Radoslaw Skorupka > > wrote: > > > >> Few remarks: > > ... > >> 4. Source code EBCDIC-ASCII translation. Example: I hate REXX > >> translation. REXX use ||

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-31 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:35:57 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-31 Thread Seymour J Metz
://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bernd Oppolzer [bernd.oppol...@t-online.de] Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 9:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-31 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Am 31.01.2021 um 15:19 schrieb Paul Gilmartin: On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:35:57 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: The problem is not at the client side (ASCII codepages); the problem is that the EBCDIC codepages in Europe have the exclamation point (!) at the place, where the American EBCDIC has |, and

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:35:57 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: > >The problem is not at the client side (ASCII codepages); >the problem is that the EBCDIC codepages in Europe have the >exclamation point (!) at the place, where the American EBCDIC has |, >and so, if you transfer from an European EBCDIC

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? I did it. There is no simple solution, not "one size fit all". Few remarks: 1. EBCDIC-ASCII conversion. It is crucial for text file, however sometimes record contain binary fields which should n

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
, Dave [gib...@wsu.edu] Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 8:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? Thank you to all who have responded, I appreciate the several suggestions so far, I may try several of them. I may get

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? On 2021-01-29 16:44, Seymour J Metz wrote: > XMIT is not supported on all platforms. Other formats, e.g., tar, zip, are > nigh near universal. The XMIT format is with a high

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-30 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 30.01.2021 o 20:29, Robert Prins pisze: On 2021-01-29 16:44, Seymour J Metz wrote: XMIT is not supported on all platforms. Other formats, e.g., tar, zip, are nigh near universal. The XMIT format is with a high degree of certainty supported on every platform that has Java:

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-30 Thread Robert Prins
nframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Brian Westerman [brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com] Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 3:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? I think I would use transmit

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-30 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Am 30.01.2021 um 00:39 schrieb Tony Harminc: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 18:21, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Few remarks: ... 4. Source code EBCDIC-ASCII translation. Example: I hate REXX translation. REXX use || characters while in CP852 it should be !!. Simple translation corrupts REXX code. C

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-30 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 30.01.2021 o 00:39, Tony Harminc pisze: On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 18:21, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Few remarks: ... 4. Source code EBCDIC-ASCII translation. Example: I hate REXX translation. REXX use || characters while in CP852 it should be !!. Simple translation corrupts REXX code. C

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Mike Schwab
PDSE Edit Generations ISPF package. https://github.com/lbdyck/pdsegen On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 6:20 PM Tony Harminc wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 14:55, Gibney, Dave wrote: > > > >I am still interested in a Windows (or Linux) tool that can understand > > PDS/E unload format. > > It's an

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
Thank you to all who have responded, I appreciate the several suggestions so far, I may try several of them. I may get shifted into other efforts. Right now, this is an exploratory, researching, POC, project and with undefined or incomplete and amorphous goals.. Even the ultimate target

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 17:32, Gibney, Dave wrote: >In preparation for shutting down my z/OS 2.3 system, sometime this year, I > am looking at options for unloading/storing both my z/OS files as well as my > application data and infrastructure files. Another approach to the many mentioned

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 14:55, Gibney, Dave wrote: > >I am still interested in a Windows (or Linux) tool that can understand > PDS/E unload format. It's an interesting issue, because while the IEBCOPY unload format of a PDSE is documented in some detail, the PDSE format itself (as it exists

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 18:21, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > Few remarks: ... > 4. Source code EBCDIC-ASCII translation. Example: I hate REXX > translation. REXX use || characters while in CP852 it should be !!. > Simple translation corrupts REXX code. C code is corrupted as well. The | character

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Charles Mills
Friday, January 29, 2021 3:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? I did it. There is no simple solution, not "one size fit all". Few remarks: 1. EBCDIC-ASCII conversion. It is crucial for text file, howe

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
I did it. There is no simple solution, not "one size fit all". Few remarks: 1. EBCDIC-ASCII conversion. It is crucial for text file, however sometimes record contain binary fields which should not be translated or the translation is quite different. 2. Programs. There is no big reason to

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other > platforms? > > Is this information relevant? > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.cbttape.org/xmitview.htm__;!!J >

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
t; To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other > platforms? > > There are a lot of packages for transforming XML. It might be easier to use > one of them rather than writing an edit macro to do it. > > >

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Tim Hare
The best tool to transform XML is XSLT. It's a little funky to learn, because it's a "functional programming language" but it's designed for XML. I used it this way ] > The stylesheet does all the work. You'll find information about XSLT around the 'net. I don't claim to be good at

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Charles Mills
and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? I am still interested in a Windows (or Linux) tool that can understand PDS/E unload format. But, here is another question. GIMZIP creates a GIMPAF.XML file describing the contents. I would like to process this file back

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
e everyone is.' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: 29 January 2021 19:55 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? I am still interested in a Windows (or L

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
] on behalf of Gibney, Dave [gib...@wsu.edu] Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 2:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? I am still interested in a Windows (or Linux) tool that can understand PDS/E unload format

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
be an XML editor to make this easier. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Gibney, Dave > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 2:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? Hi Brian, I tried to find the Sabrent device you referenced, but, did not find any that goes 16 Gb/sec. Can you please supply a link to this? Thanks and regards, David On 2021-01-29 03

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? I think I would use transmit format for transporting things between systems, it's easily transportable and common no matter where you go and is even usable on a desktop PC. The other thing you can

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? Hi Brian, I tried to find the Sabrent device you referenced, but, did not find any that goes 16 Gb/sec. Can you please supply a link to this? Thanks and regards, David On 2021-01-29 03:36, Brian

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Brian, I tried to find the Sabrent device you referenced, but, did not find any that goes 16 Gb/sec. Can you please supply a link to this? Thanks and regards, David On 2021-01-29 03:36, Brian Westerman wrote: I think I would use transmit format for transporting things between systems,

AW: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Kerstin Schwob
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Im Auftrag von Gibney, Dave Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Januar 2021 23:32 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms? Isn't that a long winder subject

Re: Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-29 Thread Brian Westerman
I think I would use transmit format for transporting things between systems, it's easily transportable and common no matter where you go and is even usable on a desktop PC. The other thing you can do (which I personally do) is simply FTP the PDS's and sequential files directly to your PC (on a

Inspecting and extracting from /OS transportable files on other platforms?

2021-01-28 Thread Gibney, Dave
Isn't that a long winder subject? In preparation for shutting down my z/OS 2.3 system, sometime this year, I am looking at options for unloading/storing both my z/OS files as well as my application data and infrastructure files. I thought of experimenting with GIMZIP. Which, for a PDS/E