Probably good ones to keep in the regression files?
In a message dated 07/09/13 06:33:05 Central Daylight Time,
norma.e.mowry@mail.mil writes:
We were able to find the 2 records causing the S0C7 abends in the
COBOL/Syncsort application. Thanks for the help.
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Mowry, Norma wrote:
>We were able to find the 2 records causing the S0C7 abends in the
>COBOL/Syncsort application. Thanks for the help.
You're most welcome! It was a big lion pleasure to help! ;-D
War story:
One of my clients has a similar S0C7 abend with a program they're using 'for
yea
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Lizette Koehler kindly wrote:
>1) LE Traps any abends - does some stuff, t
Kirk Talman wrote:
>It came from a T shirt.
Reminds me of a T-shirt I got from a family member who was at Kariba for
holidays many many many years ago.
On that stands: "My friends went to Zimbabwe. All I got was this lousy T-shirt!"
That T-shirt is now serving as a rag to remove bugs (real bug
> From: Gerhard Postpischil
> Somewhat off topic, but if that was supposed to be German, it's wrong. I
> only have a rudimentary knowledge of Yiddish, but I believe it's wrong
> there, too.
>
> (Die) alte Kacker is the valid masculine plural.
> (Der) alter Kacker is the masculine singular.
> (
Lizette Koehler kindly wrote:
>1) LE Traps any abends - does some stuff, then returns control to the abend
>process
Yes. By default as supplied by IBM. With TRAP(OFF) you get nasty side-effects
according to LE diagnostic guide.
Check the run-time options with RPTOPTS.
Norma Mowry wrote:
>Th
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Lizette
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> We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 rea
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Ted, that would be locality of reference. I suppose you'd complain if
someone in Australia said "It's Friday", because many on the list aren't
Australian?
Sheesh. Over-sensitive Canadians...
Ted, that would be locality of reference. I suppose you'd complain if
someone in Australia said "It's Friday", because many on the list aren't
Australian?
Sheesh. Over-sensitive Canadians...
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
> >It's a bona fide US holiday, which trumps even Fr
>It's a bona fide US holiday, which trumps even Friday.
I disagree. Many on the list are not Americans.
You didn't hear any of we Canadians trumpeting our holiday on July 1st.
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Definite article 'der' changes adjective from marked masculine 'alter' to
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That's why I put the definite articles in parenthesis. In Kirk's
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From: Gerhard Postpischil
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
Date: 07/03/2013 11:44 PM
Subject:Re: Question on how to debug S0C
If you have an LE Dump (CEEDUMP, CEESNAP),
it's still easier, because LE gives you the traceback of the function
or procedure calls, where you find all the information including
the offsets I mentioned in my previous post, and you don't even
need to do any calculations. If you compiled your progra
Richard Pinion wrote:
>B37s.
222 is easier to handle ;-D
Ok, perhaps 322, 722, 822 or 878 are also easy. 622 is somewhat difficult to
explain to an angry TSO user, but manageable.
My users don't like 722 for obvious reasons. I wonder why, oh, why? ;-D
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:01:29 +0200
S0C7 is the most simple cause of abend I can imagine.
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Bernd has summarized this situation more than adequately.
Norma Mowry did not provide us with full information about the COBOL
compiler that produced the offending program, but if it is a fairly
recent Enterprise COBOL compiler it would, given the right compiler
options, almost certainly be possib
x27;t need no dump analysis. Simply look into
"MVS System Codes".
Kind regards
Bernd
Am 04.07.2013 17:03, schrieb Richard Pinion:
B37s.
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B37s.
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S0C7 is the most simple cause of abend I can imagine.
The only
ion comes while acquiring scars and observing same in
ones peers.
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On 7/3/2013 12:11 PM, Kirk Talman wrote:
As a certified alte kacker, I would like to comment on what this tells us
about the state of mainframe IT.
Somewhat off topic, but if that was supposed to be German, it's wrong. I
only have a rudimentary knowledge of Yiddish, but I believe it's wrong
th
In <01bc01ce7820$59608f30$0c21ad90$@verizon.net>, on 07/03/2013
at 03:05 PM, Carl Swanson said:
>You have the entry point to the abend and you have the entry point of
>the problem program.
In many situations it's easy to get the wrong addresses from the dump
if you don't understand how things
oot cause of loss of knowledge of "how to debug this simple issue".
Peter
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at 07:16 AM, John McKown said:
>Being old, I have occasionally turned off LE's abend handling and
>just "gone for the throat" using a recent compile (with generated
>assembler shown) and a SYSUDUMP.
SYSMDUMP, TYVM.
>The programmers have forgotten how to do this entirely.
noring records causing
>> the abend. And the people who "own' the code were reluctant to fix the
>> root cause even when the fix was spelled out for them. They finally did
>> so only when embarrassed publicly.
>>
>> - The best education comes while acq
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Kirk Talman wrote:
> There have been several various good answers to this problem.
>
> As a certified alte kacker, I would like to comment on what this tells us
> about the state of mainframe IT.
>
> - Apparently one can be in "Operating Systems Support" w/o having
ng scars and observing same in
ones peers.
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> Subject: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abe
As someone pointed out, a s0c7 may not really be due to a bad data field in the
last record READ. But, to answer that question, if you did get an SVC dump
using SLIP and you included RGN, SWA, TRT:
use IP SUMMARY REGS FORMAT to get the DEB chain printed or follow it yourself
to find the OPEN D
On 7/3/2013 8:34 AM, Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US) wrote:
The program abending is written in COBOL.
That invalidates my first guess
Back in the late sixties I diagnosed my first 0C7, in a colleague's
production program that had been running problem free for some time. He
was reading SMF
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You might look at some of these Share Proceedings. They may help
me know.
They are found on www.share.org
Lizette
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> We have a produc
On 7/3/2013 5:10 AM, Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US) wrote:
We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 reason 0007. I set a
slip to capture a dump but I can't seem to find the input record that is causing
the S0C7 in this dump. I also have a CEEDUMP but that's not real helpful in
d
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Being old, I have occasionally turned off LE's abend handling and just "gone
for th
John Gilmore
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The LE is clearly involved. It would help to know what
language---COBOL?---this application was written in and to have a DCB for the
input file that
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> We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 reason 0007. I set a
> slip to capture a
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We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 reason 0007. I set a
slip to capture a dump but I can't seem to find the input record that is
causing the S0C7 in this dump. I also have a CEEDUMP
The LE is clearly involved. It would help to know what
language---COBOL?---this application was written in and to have a DCB
for the input file that contains the offending record.
You have provided too little information to enable anyone to help you.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
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On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:10:18 + "Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US)"
wrote:
:>We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 reason 0007. I set a
slip to capture a dump but I can't seem to find the input record that is
causing the S0C7 in this dump. I also have a CEEDUMP but that's n
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US) <
norma.e.mowry@mail.mil> wrote:
> We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 reason 0007. I
> set a slip to capture a dump but I can't seem to find the input record that
> is causing the S0C7 in this dump. I also
We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 reason 0007. I set a
slip to capture a dump but I can't seem to find the input record that is
causing the S0C7 in this dump. I also have a CEEDUMP but that's not real
helpful in diagnosing the issue. I looked a setting a slip with a trac
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