Re: RD/z

2016-08-31 Thread Brenton, Ren
OK, I've installed the Compuware Slickedit plugin into RD/z. I have no opinion yet, but on the surface it is very close to the ISPF Editor. Even the key is where it should be (now called Right CTRL, since the PC kids renamed the keys [sic]). Thanks to all those who responded. Ren Ext

Re: RD/z

2016-08-31 Thread David Crayford
On 31/08/2016 6:38 PM, Scott Chapman wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 15:51:07 +0800, David Crayford wrote: Is anybody outside of IBMs customers still using Eclipse? I was under the impression that IntelliJ was the dominant force in the fat IDE space now. And you get the same

Re: RD/z

2016-08-31 Thread Scott Chapman
On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 15:51:07 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >Is anybody outside of IBMs customers still using Eclipse? I was under >the impression that IntelliJ was the dominant force >in the fat IDE space now. And you get the same editor and user >experience no matter what

Re: RD/z

2016-08-31 Thread David Crayford
On 31/08/2016 2:32 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: David Crayford wrote: The Compuware COBOL editor is an OEM licensed Slickedit core plugin for Eclipse. That is a far better solution than stock RD/z which has a plethora of different editors for each different programming language. I use RD/z

Re: RD/z

2016-08-31 Thread Timothy Sipples
David Crayford wrote: >The Compuware COBOL editor is an OEM licensed Slickedit core plugin for >Eclipse. That is a far better solution than stock RD/z which has a >plethora of different editors for each different programming language. >I use RD/z with the SE core plugin and have the

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread David Crayford
t probably and order of magnitude cheaper than RD/z. In this day and age we should have one user experience for all languages and RD/z really is pathetic on that front. Ren Ext 1448 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Davi

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread Brenton, Ren
That is perfect. The simple addition of a space after the continuation character. Thank you very much. Now to play with the ENTER KEY mapping. Yes the RD/z forum is good, but they don’t seem to have the ISPF (mainframe) heart and I really like this group of kindred spirits. Thanks again

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread Brenton, Ren
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RD/z Naive question: you're running with ISPF profile mode enabled, correct? If you haven't

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread William Alexander
Hi Ren, When using the LPEX editor in RDz if you want to stack commands put a space after the separator character ';' for example: X ALL; F ALL XXX Also if you want to map your Right Ctrl key for when you are inside the Emulator you can go to Window > Preferences > General > Keys > Host

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread Brenton, Ren
o:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RD/z The Compuware COBOL editor is an OEM licensed Slickedit core plugin for Eclipse. That is a far better solution than stock RD/z which has a plethora of differe

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread David Crayford
The Compuware COBOL editor is an OEM licensed Slickedit core plugin for Eclipse. That is a far better solution than stock RD/z which has a plethora of different editors for each different programming language. I use RD/z with the SE core plugin and have the same editor for C/C++, Java, HLASM

Re: RD/z

2016-08-30 Thread Brenton, Ren
David, The RD/z 3270 emulator, is, as I stated before, just that... a 3270 emulator. It does not have the ability to leverage any of the RD/z niceties, like LPEX, the COBOL Editor, not the Compuware COBOL Editor. If it does, please let me know how to invoke the RD/z features. Thanks

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Timothy Sipples
Naive question: you're running with ISPF profile mode enabled, correct? If you haven't reviewed this extremely detailed presentation by Jon Sayles yet, I recommend it: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/cafe/attachments/3475-1-3361/RDz%20Workbench%20-%20for%20ISPF%20Developers.pdf If

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread David Crayford
RD/z has a 3270 emulator built in. Why don't you just use that if you miss ISPF so much? > On 30 Aug 2016, at 1:12 AM, Brenton, Ren <ren.bren...@bkfs.com> wrote: > > Yes, Gil is correct. An ISPF Editor plugin for RD/z would be awesome. I > miss my labels, I miss

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Brenton, Ren
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bernd Oppolzer Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 1:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RD/z We have such discussions at the site where I'm currently working, too. What I miss most of the time: there are all sorts of s

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
bout those tools? Will RD/z be able to adopt them? They are mission critical for some of my customers. When I asked such questions in the past in the RD/z evaluating team sessions (another customer), I got answers like: "this is not needed any more" (which is not true, it speedens up my

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Brenton, Ren
Dave, Yes, workstation based editing. Opening the "Host connection emulator", is essentially opening a 3270 emulator, same as if I connected with TN3270, or Attachmate (or whatever). All the bells and whistles of RD/z are lost to the emulator. The purpose is to leverage al

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Cieri, Anthony
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Brenton, Ren Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RD/z Yes, Gil is correct. An ISPF Editor plugin for RD/z would be awesome. I miss my labels, I miss stacking commands

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Brenton, Ren
Skip, I think you are missing my point. I'm not talking about batch at all. (Yes, I know how to run a BATCH TSO/ISPF session, with Edit MACROS). What I'm asking about specifically, is an ISPF (look alike) editor for RD/z. LPEX seems to come the closest, but it still leave a lot

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Jousma, David
nt: Monday, August 29, 2016 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RD/z Yes, Gil is correct. An ISPF Editor plugin for RD/z would be awesome. I miss my labels, I miss stacking commands (with an ";" or a "3/4", as Gil uses). Edit MACROS would be awesome. Dialog Servi

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
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Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Brenton, Ren
Yes, Gil is correct. An ISPF Editor plugin for RD/z would be awesome. I miss my labels, I miss stacking commands (with an ";" or a "3/4", as Gil uses). Edit MACROS would be awesome. Dialog Services, TB services, LMM services, not to mention TSO services. (Did I men

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
edit or use virtually any ISPF function--such as table management--that's > available interactively. > But batch isn't interactive. I perceived the OP as wanting to use interactive (not batch) ISPF as a plug-in editor for RD/z. Does "don't use separator characters" mean tha

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: RD/z On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:23:42 +, Brenton, Ren wrote: >Do any of you use the LPEX Editor under RD/z? I've used the ISPF editor since >it was invented, (well, at

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Brenton, Ren
Thanks Lizette, Gil, and Paul. Ren Ext 1448 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RD/z On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:23:42 +

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Bill Woodger
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Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:23:42 +, Brenton, Ren wrote: >Do any of you use the LPEX Editor under RD/z? I've used the ISPF editor since >it was invented, (well, at least 40+ years), and trying to change editors is >somewhat disconcerting (not to mention just out right fr

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
ussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Brenton, Ren > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 7:51 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: RD/z > > No RD/z'ers here? Or is there an RD/z list server, on which I should be > posting? > > Thanks. > &g

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Jousma, David
, August 29, 2016 10:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RD/z No RD/z'ers here? Or is there an RD/z list server, on which I should be posting? Thanks. Ren Ext 1448 -Original Message- From: Brenton, Ren Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: RD/z

2016-08-29 Thread Brenton, Ren
No RD/z'ers here? Or is there an RD/z list server, on which I should be posting? Thanks. Ren Ext 1448 -Original Message- From: Brenton, Ren Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: RD/z Do any of you use the LPEX Editor under RD/z? I've used

RD/z

2016-08-26 Thread Brenton, Ren
Do any of you use the LPEX Editor under RD/z? I've used the ISPF editor since it was invented, (well, at least 40+ years), and trying to change editors is somewhat disconcerting (not to mention just out right frustrating). I miss LABLES, (yes I know about bookmarks, but it's not the same