Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-11 Thread Peter Relson
>Is that feature going to be (or has been?) back-ported to V2.1? No. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the m

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 7:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? You could also write something of your own, as of z/OS 2.2, using the CSVFETCH exit which was developed specifically to hel

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
U] On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? When there are only specific load modules in specific libraries for which tracking is needed, there IS an approach that does not requir

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Rob Barbour
Hi Peter, There is a product called P-Tracker that will give you that information. Since it "see's" everything loaded it can give you the program and call sequences as well as when, who, where, it was loaded.People use this for asset management, but programmers use it to determine call

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Joel C. Ewing
IN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >> Behalf Of retired mainframer >> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 1:06 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? >> >> If the problem you are trying to solve is important to the

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Edward Gould
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > >> Softaudit says it can do it, they would have to front end the SVC. > I believe they do or did. > > Then I would suggest you look elsewhere. Back in Y2K era a package was bought over my objections that did that very same thing front end

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-10 Thread Peter Relson
You could also write something of your own, as of z/OS 2.2, using the CSVFETCH exit which was developed specifically to help get products out of front-ending the contents supervisor SVC's. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
ay, August 09, 2017 4:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? > Softaudit says it can do it, they would have to front end the SVC. I believe they do or did.  CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity. Ori

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Charles Mills
SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? > On Aug 9, 2017, at 12:06 PM, retired mainframer > wrote: > > If the problem you are trying to solve is important to the organization, ask > the people who can run DAF for what you need and let them sanitize the > output for you. >

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Edward Gould
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 12:06 PM, retired mainframer > wrote: > > If the problem you are trying to solve is important to the organization, ask > the people who can run DAF for what you need and let them sanitize the > output for you. > > Alternately, if the number of libraries containing the modul

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Charles Mills
> When the jobs finally run successfully, any members not added are likelyunused At least not until year-end. CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity. null -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instr

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
ded are likely >unused. > >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >> On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 >> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 8:02 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: An

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread retired mainframer
to:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 8:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? > > Unfortunately I have no access to any SMF data here and I am prohibited from run

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Clark Morris
t; > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 >Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:02 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2017-08-09 09:12, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: As the subject says, are there any such SMF statistics available? We need to know if certain subroutines are ever LOADed anywhere in the sysplex by any batch program. We do collect SMF data, but I need to know which one may help, if any. I am

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Leon Trafalsk
I have used MFM (Module Fetch Monitor) previously. This creates a TRACE file (not SMF) however it had proved itself to be very useful. It was obtained by a separate (No Charge) agreement from IBM. This basically uses an LLA exit to capture the information required. There was a share presentatio

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Jousma, David
ssage- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Unfortunately I have no acce

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? There was a product you could purchase called SoftAudit. It could do some of

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
There was a product you could purchase called SoftAudit. It could do some of what you are looking for (If I remember correctly) The other options some shops took, was having their programs issue a WTO indicating what module called what. Probably well past what you could work with at this point.

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
, 2017 15:25 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? > > Simple answer: NO, there is no SMF tracking of the LOAD functionality in > z/OS. > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 < > peter.far...@broad

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
U > Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? > > Simple answer: NO, there is no SMF tracking of the LOAD functionality in > z/OS. > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 < > peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote: > > > As

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread Charles Mills
No. SMF 30 subtype 5 (?) has the jobstep program name, the USS program name if any, and the program in the step that used the most CPU. That last field is occasionally useful for situations such as yours. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LIS

Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program?

2017-08-09 Thread John McKown
Simple answer: NO, there is no SMF tracking of the LOAD functionality in z/OS. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 < peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote: > As the subject says, are there any such SMF statistics available? We need > to know if certain subroutines are ever LOADed a