Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-03-01 Thread Martin Packer
, Performance, Topics Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://anchor.fm/marna-walle Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Tony Harminc To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 01/03/2021 04:15 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: Colours on screen (mainframe

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 10:56, Jim Elliott wrote: > > I was working in the IBM Toronto Lab prior to the 3279 announcement and was a > tester for the product (developed at IBM Hursley). Somewhere I have a photo > of myself sitting at my 3279 when I got an award. I still have a copy of a >

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-26 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Gentlemen, Thank you all for the answers. Some background of the question: Sometimes I have to do with IT folks hostile to mainframe. Isn't it usual? Maybe, but it's boring and sometimes annoying. Especially when you have to explain mainframe "black screen" is colorful and it was colorful

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-26 Thread Martin Packer
Series (With Marna Walle): https://anchor.fm/marna-walle Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Jim Elliott To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 26/02/2021 15:56 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question) Sent

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-26 Thread Jim Elliott
I was working in the IBM Toronto Lab prior to the 3279 announcement and was a tester for the product (developed at IBM Hursley). Somewhere I have a photo of myself sitting at my 3279 when I got an award. I still have a copy of a pre-announce version of a paper on developing colour applications

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-25 Thread Warren Brown
I remember this activity . . .  On Thursday, February 25, 2021, 08:28:06 PM EST, g...@gabegold.com wrote: In 1971, Mitre (DC-area non-profit think tank for government -- had a 2250 connected to OS/360, which included native device support for it. When we installed VM circa 1972, I

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-25 Thread g...@gabegold.com
In 1971, Mitre (DC-area non-profit think tank for government -- had a 2250 connected to OS/360, which included native device support for it. When we installed VM circa 1972, I got to make it work under CMS (component of VM). VERY fortunately someone at University of Grenoble (France) had

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question) First interactive system I ever wrote was for the 2260

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
of Edward Finnell [000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 5:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question) Extended Attribute In particular I'd be surprised if a 4th bit weren't used. But for what

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Edward Finnell
Extended Attribute In particular I'd be surprised if a 4th bit weren't used. But for what? -Original Message- From: Martin Packer To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wed, Feb 24, 2021 2:54 am Subject: Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question) The interesting question to me

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Charles Mills
dnesday, February 24, 2021 2:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question) The 3279 used tri-plane symbols for extended colour (turquoise, pink, yellow and white, plus blank for all 3 primary colours off). This had the neat trick of allowin

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question) On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 19:10, Seymour J Metz wrote: > IBM had color support for DIDOCS, ISPF and XEDIT pretty early. I don't recall > when GDDM picked up color support. Very early 1980s - earlier

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question) The interesting question to me is "which colours"? I would say we started with a 3-bit colour space: R, G, B. And so the colour Red is 100 in this space and a more complex colour like Yellow is pr

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Attila Fogarasi [fogar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 5:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question) The 3279 used tri-plane

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Joe Monk
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Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Colin Paice
t; > > > Mainframe, Performance, Topics Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): > > https://anchor.fm/marna-walle > > > > Youtube channel: > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA > > > > > > > > From: Tony Harminc > > To: IB

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Attila Fogarasi
Topics Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): > https://anchor.fm/marna-walle > > Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA > > > > From: Tony Harminc > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 24/02/2021 01:00 > Subject:

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-24 Thread Martin Packer
ast Series (With Marna Walle): https://anchor.fm/marna-walle Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Tony Harminc To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 24/02/2021 01:00 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question) Sent by:

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 19:10, Seymour J Metz wrote: > IBM had color support for DIDOCS, ISPF and XEDIT pretty early. I don't recall > when GDDM picked up color support. Very early 1980s - earlier than I remember support for DIDOCS or ISPF. And almost certainly GDDM was under development in

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
For some reason, people insist on calling a CRT with an amber phosphor a green screen. IBM probably had color devices for the military or for process control before the 3279, but I know of no commercial color CRT terminal before it. IBM had color support for DIDOCS, ISPF and XEDIT pretty early.

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question)

2021-02-23 Thread Charles Mills
https://en.wikipedia..org/wiki/IBM_3270#3279 1979 Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Colours on screen (mainframe

Re: Colours on screen (mainframe history question) [EXTERNAL]

2021-02-23 Thread Feller, Paul
My first color terminal was a 3279 in the early 1980s. I think we had both a model 2 and model 3. I don't recall if they had the extended color feature. As far as I know the IBM 3279 was IBMs first color terminal. Thanks..   Paul Feller GTS Mainframe Technical Support -Original