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Can the SSL security feature be turned off co
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And now through consolidation, There's really only two TN3270 vendors
left:
On 20/11/2022 23:46, Andrew Rowley wrote:
On 19/11/2022 8:19 pm, Peter Sylvester wrote:
It seems to me that this code currently poses a security risk.
Certificate validation always say OK. (well it is said like this in the code.)
Which terminal emulators actually validate the certificate?
On 20/11/22 23:13, Dave Jones wrote:
Now add GDDM graphics and it will be nearly perfect.
Here we go again! tnz is a curses application, a TUI (text user
interface) that runs in a shell. It's not X windows and doesn't run in a
GUI container. It's my understanding on some Linux desktop
On 19/11/2022 8:19 pm, Peter Sylvester wrote:
It seems to me that this code currently poses a security risk.
Certificate validation always say OK. (well it is said like this in
the code.)
Which terminal emulators actually validate the certificate?
I would like to think all of them do, but
There is IND$FILE support in tnz. It is a bit different from other
emulators I've seen - I still need to document it.
The basic idea of a download is that you enter the IND$FILE command
yourself in the session with all the appropriate arguments.
After the command completes, you press Esc to go to
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WTF? ELIF. AYOD?
On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 7:26 AM Seymour J Metz wrote
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Thank you very much, Neil.
That works as expected here on our internal network. Some information:
1) host is z/VM 7.3
2) Terminal size is 62x160
3) this also works when run on a zLinux image, running as a guest of the z/VM
7.3 system; very much like running it on USS.
Now add GDDM graphics and
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I agree. In the case of orexx, it was the case that those parts were encumbered
by intellectual property of unfriendly competitors
Ah yes, these I'm aware of.
Thought there was something new I didn't know about.
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On Sunday, November 20th, 2022 at 1:10 PM, David Crayford
wrote:
> On 19/11/22 12:20, kekronbekron wrote:
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> > What? RMF can export to prometheus?
> > Do you mean zDG,
On 19/11/22 12:20, kekronbekron wrote:
What? RMF can export to prometheus?
Do you mean zDG, with its own zOSMF / WAS Liberty deployment?
There's a Zowe project https://github.com/zowe/zebra. There is also zCDP
integration with RMF to stream to Splunk/Elastic. Rocket are modernizing
OMEGAMON
On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 21:10:35 -0800, Ed Jaffe
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>On 11/17/2022 6:20 AM, Gabriel Tully wrote:
>> I recently came across this blog about tnz.
>>
>> https://medium.com/theropod/3270-is-terminal-84d0af522cfd
>
>I never heard of this emulator until I read your post. I decided to try
>it using
Hi,
It seems to me that this code currently poses a security risk.
Certificate validation always say OK. (well it is said like this in the code.)
But this well merits fixing?
Another hi Hint: A default should be different, and ignoring host verification should come with many
warnings. :-)
On 11/17/2022 6:20 AM, Gabriel Tully wrote:
I recently came across this blog about tnz.
https://medium.com/theropod/3270-is-terminal-84d0af522cfd
I never heard of this emulator until I read your post. I decided to try
it using python 3.10 on Windows 11.
It seemed to work well with
What? RMF can export to prometheus?
Do you mean zDG, with its own zOSMF / WAS Liberty deployment?
- KB
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On Saturday, November 19th, 2022 at 6:27 AM, David Crayford
wrote:
> On 19/11/22 02:12, René Jansen wrote:
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> > RMFIII is my main use case.
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> If
When I first noticed this tnz repo, I had no idea how to use it.
Readme might as well have been written in ones and zeros.
Only after I saw a post on medium (someone mentioned the link in this thread
earlier) on tnz, did I know how to connect to a specific host:port.
Open sourcing without doco is
Oh that makes sense.
A few days ago, people were posting about how they found IBM's assembler code
from CICS or something very useful for their own learning advancement.
At the time, there were vendors and allowing just visibility to source code
would have been like leaving the room with their
On 19/11/22 02:12, René Jansen wrote:
RMFIII is my main use case.
If it's graphics that you seek, RMF has been modernized to export to
Prometheus/Grafana.
Not supporting GDDM is a case of self-fulfilling prophecy. Quality of 3270
terminal emulators has been going down since CM/2, with
Yes, you can use the tnz zti emulator without SSL.
The following will force port 23 (the normal non-SSL tn3270 port) and zti will
default to not use SSL:
zti {hostname}:23
You can also turn it off for any port:
zti
set SESSION_SSL 0
goto {hostname}[:{port}]
Create a
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Just installed TNZ (on an M1 Mac) - looking good, and the more emulators the
merrier
Hi Rene.
You said: "... Who actually wants to use Windows for work? ..."
Whether they want to or not, 90% of people use Windows for work.
Regards,
David
On 2022-11-18 13:12, René Jansen wrote:
RMFIII is my main use case. Not supporting GDDM is a case of self-fulfilling
prophecy. Quality of
Zero Trust (ZTA) which is the currently-favored paradigm says to treat all
networks, internal and external, as untrusted. That would imply TLS.
You would not need "thousands of certificates": one per sysplex with TN3270
would be sufficient. And certificate generation increasingly is automated.
Well, after taking a quick look at the code, it does not appear to have a
no-SSL mode. But I agree with Peter, it should have one.
DJ
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Can the SSL security feature be turned off completely?
Thanks.
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ZOC is the best! Scriptable in REXX!
> On 18 Nov 2022, at 13:13, Joe Monk wrote:
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> Dont forget ZOC!
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> Joe
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RMFIII is my main use case. Not supporting GDDM is a case of self-fulfilling
prophecy. Quality of 3270 terminal emulators has been going down since CM/2,
with lots of products having funny and off color schemes, no or wrong terminal
status symbols, terribly mixed-up key definitions, the wrong
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Object Code Only (OCO)
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Object Code Only. I.e. executables only with no source code.
Michael
At 09:33 AM 11/18/2022, kekronbekron wrote:
Hi Paul,
What's OCO?
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Hi Paul,
What's OC
Dont forget ZOC!
Joe
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 10:34 AM Sebastian Welton
wrote:
> >And now through consolidation, There's really only two TN3270 vendors
> left: Micro Focus and IBM!
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> I think people have mentioned that there are quite a few TN3270 clients
> still out there, on my (Windows)
>And now through consolidation, There's really only two TN3270 vendors left:
>Micro Focus and IBM!
>
I think people have mentioned that there are quite a few TN3270 clients still
out there, on my (Windows) system I have the following installed as each has
something I require on it or can only
Hi KB,
OCO=Object Code Only
That is, IBM's 1983 unintelligent decision to stop supplying Source Code.
Yet, schizophrenically, they support Open Source. SMH (for the last 39
years).
Regards,
David
On 2022-11-18 10:33, kekronbekron wrote:
Hi Paul,
What's OCO?
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Hi Paul,
What's OCO?
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> On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:06:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
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> > Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool.
On 18/11/22 00:05, Dave Jones wrote:
Now if it would only support GDDM style graphics orders like PCOMM does...
Who actually uses GDDM? I use Tom's Vista and I couldn't care less that
it doesn't support GDDM. Rocket Terminal Emulator Web edition can serve
thousands of 3270 sessions on a
> On 17 Nov 2022, at 10:23 pm, Paul Gilmartin
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> On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:06:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
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>> Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool. Much better than
>> c3270. Supports all the usual fruit. I spend a lot
support alternate screen
sizes (MOD-4, MOD-5, and user sizes like 50x160) or just 24x80 MOD-2?
Peter
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Just installed TNZ (on an M1 Mac) - looking good, and the more emulators the
merrier. Thanks for posting this link, and the medium article, would not have
found out how to disarm SSL on my own easily.
I have to admit to mixed feelings seeing this: on the plus side, it is very
good to release
ZOC V8 … I’m on a Mac and it does everything I need, full keyboard mapping.
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> On Nov 17, 2022, at 09:39, Steve Smith wrote:
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> I like Bluezone a lot, but relative to the amazing value Vista is, I'd say
> it's worth about $32 to me.
>
> I did buy
I like Bluezone a lot, but relative to the amazing value Vista is, I'd say
it's worth about $32 to me.
I did buy Vista TN3270 from Tom B.; but so long ago, it may have been less
than $30 then.
sas
On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 11:48 AM Ramsey Hallman
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> Unless Passport TN3270 has been
lator "TeemTalk" but it is a piece of crap.
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Anyone else snicker at this, remembe
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ktop (WRQ > Attachmate > Micro Focus)
HP has (had?) an emulator "TeemTalk" but it is a piece of crap.
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Now if it would only support GDDM style graphics orders like PCOMM does...
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:06:03 +0800
Anyone else snicker at this, remembering how around 1999-2000 every SHARE
Expo had a couple of new 3270 emulator vendors, who would show up once and
never be heard from again?
Not saying this Python version is a bad thing-it's a mature market and due
for an Open Source replacement. Just funny
3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?
Hi Tim,
It is cool indeed. I wish IBM did more to encourage enterprises (especially the
mainframe domain) to use more open source.
It's quite obvious now that open source isn't broke man's software; it's a
place for very talented people from around the world
On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:06:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool. Much better than
>c3270. Supports all the usual fruit. I spend a lot of time in shells and
>this is a great utility.
>
c3270? A fairer comparison would be to x3270.
Does it support
I recently came across this blog about tnz.
https://medium.com/theropod/3270-is-terminal-84d0af522cfd
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Hi Tim,
It is cool indeed. I wish IBM did more to encourage enterprises (especially the
mainframe domain) to use more open source.
It's quite obvious now that open source isn't broke man's software; it's a
place for very talented people from around the world to solve common problems,
in a way
Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and it's cool. Much better than
c3270. Supports all the usual fruit. I spend a lot of time in shells and
this is a great utility.
On 17/11/22 10:59, Timothy Sipples wrote:
There's a 3270 emulator (and automation) package written in Python that's
available
There's a 3270 emulator (and automation) package written in Python that's
available here:
https://github.com/IBM/tnz
You can run it on any platform that supports Python including macOS and z/OS
itself. Any reports? Has anyone tried it? One of the fascinating things you can
do with TNZ is to
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