I'm not a SHARE member, but I understand SHARE does have some influence in what
IBM does and does not do. I would appreciate if SHARE would immediately go
strongly after IBM for what they are currently doing to their web content. I'm
not in a position to do that, unfortunately. I know there are
There's nobody left at IBM who can fix this. Critical internal websites go
down for days. Another round of purges has started in POK. It's just a
matter of time now, and Ginny & co. are clueless.
They just keep cutting, looking for the elephant.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 2:25 AM, Peter Hunkeler wr
Hi Peter,
I agree that the product vendor has the primary responsibility of providing
clear, accurate, and readily available doc, but I still like to have matching
doc at the level I install and with a copy of my install notes, along with
anything else that might come in handy if I need to res
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Peter,
Others have made useful recommendations for the general situation.
For the specific disappearing doc that you encountered, I wonder whether it may
have been an error rather than intentionally removed. In either case, it may
be useful to cite the specific doc that has become unavailable
On 6/14/2018 8:16 AM, Ralph Robison wrote:
Peter,
Others have made useful recommendations for the general situation.
For the specific disappearing doc that you encountered, I wonder whether it may
have been an error rather than intentionally removed. In either case, it may
be useful to cite
hum my reply to this post via email is not gettingposted ?
trying again..
Totally agree ! very frustrating, what's more frustrating is I spent a good
amount of time setting up a KC server on my local system and still the search
engine is a JOKE.
I have 2.2 KC and CICS (that's all I can
I don't think it's actually the case that it was all removed, even
though I will agree that it is more difficult to find. I thought
someone posted this link a few days ago, but it has been working fine
for me:
https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r1-pdf-downloa
: Thursday, June 14, 2018 6:29 AM
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I don't think it's actually the case that it was all removed, even
though I will agree that it is more difficult to find.
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On 6/14/2018 6:05 AM, Tom Conley wrote:
ALL z/OS V2R1 CONTENT WAS REMOVED FROM THE INTERNET BY IBM!! DO A
GOOGLE SEARCH, AND NONE OF THE LINKS WORK!!
Peter's anger is justified. IBM has screwed up royally here, and as
far as I can tell, they're not lifting a finger to fix the situation.
On 6/14/2018 8:53 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
ALL z/OS V2R1 CONTENT WAS REMOVED FROM THE INTERNET BY IBM!! DO A
GOOGLE SEARCH, AND NONE OF THE LINKS WORK!!
Stop whining and buy a used Power8 and install IBM i 7.3, "What z/OS
should have been and never was" :)
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:54 AM Ed Jaffe
wrote:
> On 6/14/2018 6:05 AM, Tom Conley wrote:
> >
> > ALL z/OS V2R1 CONTENT WAS REMOVED FROM THE INTERNET BY IBM!! DO A
> > GOOGLE SEARCH, AND NONE OF THE LINKS WORK!!
> >
> > Peter's anger is justified. IBM has screwed up royally here, and as
> > far
On 6/14/2018 6:05 AM, Tom Conley wrote:
>
> ALL z/OS V2R1 CONTENT WAS REMOVED FROM THE INTERNET BY IBM!! DO A
> GOOGLE SEARCH, AND NONE OF THE LINKS WORK!!
>
> Peter's anger is justified. IBM has screwed up royally here, and as
> far as I can tell, they're not lifting a finger to fix the situat
Does this link not work for everyone?
https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r1-pdf-download?OpenDocument
I fully recognize that this is not the full complement of what was
available before, but my (only) point is that the 2.1 documentation
seems to be available.
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Does this link not work for everyone?
https://www-304.ibm.com/serve
Even if you have a z/OS 2.1 manual, some PTFs do add features or
command or document changes to older versions, and they only update
the newest manual. Sometimes it is best to get the newer manual then
check the document changes so you aren't referencing a feature only in
the newest release.
On Th
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Does this link not work for everyone?
https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww-304.ibm.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2Fzosv2r1
On 6/14/2018 12:01 PM, John Eells wrote:
Does this link not work for everyone?
https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r1-pdf-download?OpenDocument
I fully recognize that this is not the full complement of what was
available before, but my (only) point is that t
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Does this link not work for everyone?
https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r1-pdf-download?OpenDocument
I fully recognize that this is not the full complement
On 6/14/2018 9:27 AM, Mike Schwab wrote:
Even if you have a z/OS 2.1 manual, some PTFs do add features or
command or document changes to older versions, and they only update
the newest manual. Sometimes it is best to get the newer manual then
check the document changes so you aren't referencing
This may have been said before, but if IBM wanted to remove stuff, the
appropriate way is to:
1) use robots.txt or equivalent to exclude the to-be-deleted documents from
search indexes
2) wait some period of time for crawlers to re-index
3) Remove the pages
Google in particular I believe has some
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:33:03 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>On 6/14/2018 9:27 AM, Mike Schwab wrote:
>> Even if you have a z/OS 2.1 manual, some PTFs do add features or
>> command or document changes to older versions, and they only update
>> the newest manual. Sometimes it is best to get the newer manu
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:27:47 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>Even if you have a z/OS 2.1 manual, some PTFs do add features or
>command or document changes to older versions, and they only update
>the newest manual. Sometimes it is best to get the newer manual then
>check the document changes so you a
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:27:47 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>Even if you have a z/OS 2.1 manual, some PTFs do add features or
>command or document changes to older versions, and they only up
: Thursday, June 14, 2018 4:01 PM
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This may have been said before, but if IBM wanted to remove stuff, the
appropriate way is to:
1) use robots.txt or equivalent to exclud
On 15/06/2018 8:29 PM, Jerry Callen wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:27:47 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
Even if you have a z/OS 2.1 manual, some PTFs do add features or
command or document changes to older versions, and they only update
the newest manual. Sometimes it is best to get the newer manua
Here's our take on this issue -
http://watsonwalker.com/what-is-happening-with-ibms-websites/
All my best,
Cheryl
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the ass for what the've done with
their web content?
Here's our take on this issue -
http://watsonwalker.com/what-is-happening-with-ibms-websites/
All my best,
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Here's our take on this issue -
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All my best,
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Except she was polite about it!
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: Would SHARE kindly kick IBM in the ass for what the've done with
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Here's our take on this issue -
http://watsonwalker.com/what-is-happening-with-ibms-websites/
All my best,
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une 21, 2018 10:42 AM
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> with their web content?
>
> Here's our take on this issue -
>
> http://watsonwalker.com/what-is-happening-with-ibms-websites/
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Good article, of course, Cheryl.
The one thing it didn't mention is that maintenance of these sites is being
moved overseas. That's not inherently bad, except that it inevitably leads
. Oh well!
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Good art
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 17:18:08 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>there are legitimate reasons to search for old manuals.
Indeed. Questions arise on here often enough about when something was
introduced or changed. I occasionally refer to MVS V4 or V5 documentation,
and even look for early MVS and OS/
Dear Peter
I apologize for not responding sooner to your plea for help, but I do want to
publicly respond on behalf of SHARE.
SHARE is a community of people representing users of enterprise technology. As
such, we regularly participate in discussions with various vendors in the Z
ecosystem t
>Does this link not work for everyone?
>
>https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosv2r1-pdf-download?OpenDocument
I can't tell if it is working for everyone, but I can confirm that is for me.
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>Even if you have a z/OS 2.1 manual, some PTFs do add features or
command or document changes to older versions, and they only update
the newest manual.
Very good point! I strongly prefer to read PDFs over KC web pages when I need
to read more than a few paragraphs. However, with the change to
Hello Harry,thank you very much for you response, and especially for picking
this up.
I know the subject I chose was a bit harshly formulated, but I did this on
purpose. I was hoping that it would get things going, and it did. I'm grateful.
Best regardsPeter
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