High Level Assembler on VSE and VM

2006-11-06 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Everyone, We have High Level Assembler for z/VM and for VSE. The product number is the same for both 5696-234. Can some one explain the billing process? We are being charged two times for this, seemly, one product. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723

Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Steve_Domarski/Marion_County_Property_Appraiser
And so it begins, Management has decided after a year of thinking that the era of the mainframe is over here. The final I's are being doted, T's being crossed on a monster contract to replace our main application with a Computer Off The Shelf product. I love that acronym. COST or costs more is

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Hi Steve, By coincidence I recently used your county's online tax parcel web application, loved it, and was pleased to see it ran on VM. Sorry to hear it's going elsewhere. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential,

Re: Any way to stop PROP from logging 'select messages'?

2006-11-06 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Title: RE: Any way to stop PROP from logging 'select messages'? Don't have HL Assembler here. Anyway I think I would make my mods to DMSPOP (PROP Mainline) or DMSPOA (Action routine that does the logging). The messages themselves are absolutly useless. They give a GRAF address that is

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Colin Allinson
Steve_Domarski Wrote: And so it begins, Management has decided after a year of thinking that the era of the mainframe is over here. I think it is not just beginning but is well under way in most places. Part of this is a sort of 'religious belief' in the conventional wisdom that

Re: Any way to stop PROP from logging 'select messages'?

2006-11-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 11/06/2006 at 10:40 CST, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On further analysis it looks like DMSPOA uses standard CMS I/O ie. FSWRITE .. I think a little SVC 202 trap might be the easiest and safest, and most flexiable way around this. FSREAD (RDBUF) and FSWRITE (WRBUF)

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Having been there myself, your best bet is to find yourself a new position ASAP. If they still need your services, they may be able to get you for a few hours a week at a nice hourly rate. Don't be a victim of their bad decision making - take advantage of it in every possible way. Ray Mrohs

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Duane Weaver
Steve, Your email is very interesting. Here, there are two issues that are determining the future of mainframe and client/server Open systems environment (ie UNIX). The first issue is the philosophical issue that it can be done cheaper on client/server. Management refuses to look at the

PIPEMD5 and RXMD5 modules ?

2006-11-06 Thread Thomas Kern
I have two modules that are in use in some test processes that we ran a while back and I am now interested in using them in a production process. Unfortunately, I don't have the footprints to track them back to whoever wrote/owns them. The vmarc files that contain them are dated 03/30/98. If you

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Edward M. Martin
One reason for not looking at the TCO of the client/server setup is that they do not have those figures. At some of my old clients, the largest unknown cost was the client/server pieces and parts. They would estimate how many and how much. A large Publishing company in NE

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Steve_Domarski/Marion_County_Property_Appraiser
Not wanting to mention the politics but it is a huge mistaken belief that privatizing government is efficient use of tax dollars. Not in this case. In the short and long term me and my associate could have rewritten the application using freeware from any number of platforms in the same time

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Steve_Domarski/Marion_County_Property_Appraiser
This would be an option if I wasn't knee deep into building a house in a real estate market that is falling. A house I really like and would enjoy living in. To go anywhere means leaving the area and potentially Florida. The biggest hurt would be a 50% salary cut that would be expected starting

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Steve_Domarski/Marion_County_Property_Appraiser
We get nothing but complements from our public web application. Some consider it the bests in Florida but management is caught up in the fact that we are not main stream. Yet I can do anything they ask with in a reasonable time frame. 10 years and 21 million delivered property pages its still

Re: PIPEMD5 and RXMD5 modules ?

2006-11-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 6, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Thomas Kern wrote: I have two modules that are in use in some test processes that we ran a while back and I am now interested in using them in a production process. Unfortunately, I don't have the footprints to track them back to whoever wrote/owns them. The

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Duane Weaver
On top of that is back up power supply. We are increasing our UPS and other back up power supplies over the next several years. They wont look at what increasing the servers are doing to other requirements. They simply see the cost of the mainframe is x.They never see the cost of

Re: PIPEMD5 and RXMD5 modules ?

2006-11-06 Thread Peter . Webb
I think they were written by Ross Patterson while he was at VM Software Inc., later Sterling Software, now CA. My copies are of earlier vintage, and neither the EXEC nor MODULE have copyright or other identifying information. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: PIPEMD5 and RXMD5 modules ?

2006-11-06 Thread Thomas Kern
I had already looked at the IBM Downloads page but could not find them. I f they are part of another package there, they are not listed in the primar y description. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:54:34 -0600, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] t wrote: I think these are on the VM

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Paul B. Nieman
- Original Message - From: Steve_Domarski/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: Re: Another long slow decline. ... Yet I can do anything they ask with in a reasonable time frame. ... It's been a joy to build and maintain... ...

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Brian Nielsen
If you believe you'll be cut, as you seem to say elsewhare in this thread : I now find my self in Catch 22. I can't leave since I make good money after 20 years on the job. The vendor takes over most of my skill set in a few months and I'm left waiting for the cut over to see my job cut as wel

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread George Haddad
That's been my experience as well. Before working here at a state-funded U, I spent some 12 years in the private sector, at 3 large corporations, one financial, one telecom, and one energy. The degree of non-nonchalance in spending huge amounts of $$$ compared to the shoe-string budgets here

Re: PIPEMD5 and RXMD5 modules ?

2006-11-06 Thread Dave Reinken
Sterling / Ross Paterson definitely distributed them: http://listserv.uark.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9904L=vmesa-lT=0F=S=P=31465 http://tinyurl.com/y2sev4 Original Message Subject: Re: PIPEMD5 and RXMD5 modules ? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, November 06, 2006 2:43 pm

Automatic ReIPL

2006-11-06 Thread Schuh, Richard
Does the soft IPL done following an ABEND act the same when choosing a module to load as if a SHUTDOWN REIPL (without any parameters or options) had been entered? That is, will it choose the module that was last IPLed rather than the one that currently has CPLOAD as its filename? Regards,

Re: PIPEMD5 and RXMD5 modules ?

2006-11-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 6, 2006, at 2:38 PM, Thomas Kern wrote: I had already looked at the IBM Downloads page but could not find them. If they are part of another package there, they are not listed in the primary description. You're right. Ours must have come from somewhere else. I see no identifying

Re: PIPEMD5 and RXMD5 modules ?

2006-11-06 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I just love GOOGLE. VMESA-L Archives -- April 1999 (#304) http://listserv.uark.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9904L=vmesa-lT=0F=S=P=31465 Check out the PIPEMD5 and *RXMD5* packages at http : / / www . vm . sterling . com / library / . I think they ' ll do what you want . *...*

Re: Another long slow decline.

2006-11-06 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I agree with Colin in that the decline in mainframe usage is partly the herd wisdom picked up from the seatback airline magazines starting around 1990 +/-. The other part is that IBM has, once again, shot itself in the foot with software. There is a mindset in IBM that goes back, in my