Re: OT: old equipment VMESA

2007-07-13 Thread Fran Hensler
When I started high school in 1956 I remember that there were IBM clocks all through the school and they were syncronized by a master clock. I don't know if the system was hard wired or the if the clocks received a radio signal. In 1963 I started working for Slippery Rock State College and there w

Re: [OT] How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-13 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:55:23 -0400, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >On Tuesday, 07/10/2007 at 09:06 EST, Alan Ackerman ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >On Monday, 07/09/2007 at 10:30 AST, Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >> ... >> >Alan Altmark >> >z/VM Development >> >IBM Endicott

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-13 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello! Jim, as I recall the company that we know now as IBM did in fact make clocks as found in many schools. Sometimes they worked from signals delivered from a central recording clock. And sometimes they wore a windup mechanism or even an electric one. They even made time clocks. One was even s

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-13 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I saw a carbine like that in the IBM museum in Endicott. Gotta get back there before I retire back to Texas in a year of so. I'm only about 35 miles up the road, now. I remember that when I started school in a one room country school house in 1949 that there was a clock on the wall that said

Re: IUCV Interruptions

2007-07-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
That was our speculation. Thanks. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 3:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IUCV Interruptions On Friday, 07/13/2007 at

Re: IUCV Interruptions

2007-07-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 07/13/2007 at 06:19 EDT, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/13/07, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nothing is changed. Except for the IPARML itself (I think), all > > IUCV-related addresses remain 31-bit, even in 64-bit addressing mode. So, > > all buffe

Re: IUCV Interruptions

2007-07-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 07/13/2007 at 05:57 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Next question, what about the Control Register usage? In z/Architecture mode, bit 62 of CR0 has to be on. (It's the same bit - just the numbering is different.) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: IUCV Interruptions

2007-07-13 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 7/13/07, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nothing is changed. Except for the IPARML itself (I think), all IUCV-related addresses remain 31-bit, even in 64-bit addressing mode. So, all buffers must reside below 2GB. Virtually speaking below 2G, I presume... -- Rob van der Heij Velo

Re: IUCV Interruptions

2007-07-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
Next question, what about the Control Register usage? Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 2:50 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IUCV Interruptions On Fr

Re: IUCV Interruptions

2007-07-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
Thanks, Alan. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 2:50 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IUCV Interruptions On Friday, 07/13/2007 at 04:44 EDT, "Schuh, R

Re: IUCV Interruptions

2007-07-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 07/13/2007 at 04:44 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any documentation of the changes to IUCV interrupts in 64-bit mode? > There is a section in CP Programming Services that documents the interrupts in > 31 bit mode, but does not say a word about 64 bit op

Re: TS1120 Costs

2007-07-13 Thread Paul Raulerson
They list for about $35K, so with discounts you can expect $22K upwards, however, I don't think they attach directly to FICON lines, unless you configure FCP protocol on the line. Otherwise, you need an A70 controller or something similar. If you use Fibre, you probably also need a SAN switch t

IUCV Interruptions

2007-07-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
Is there any documentation of the changes to IUCV interrupts in 64-bit mode? There is a section in CP Programming Services that documents the interrupts in 31 bit mode, but does not say a word about 64 bit operation. Regards, Richard Schuh

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-13 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
I've got an IBM M-1 Carbine from WWII. Does that count? Dennis "I don't have a girlfriend. I just know a girl who would get really mad if she heard me say that". -- Mitch Hedberg -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: FW: PIPEDDR & TERSE and other stuff

2007-07-13 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
When I've had a need to move 3390 volume images to another data center, I've used CMSDDR to dump them to files, then transferred the files via either RSCS or ISFC. CMSDDR does some sort of packing on the files it creates. Empty 3390-3's result in far smaller output files than full ones do.

At least they mentioned "z/VM" by name for once!

2007-07-13 Thread Phil Smith III
"IBM also said it enhanced the mainframe's z/VM virtualization software with ten times more virtualized memory and up to 256 GB of real memory. That means businesses can consolidate more memory-intensive workloads like database apps onto a single copy of z/VM and save money by not deploying addi

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Re: TS1120 Costs

2007-07-13 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Being nitpicky There is no such thing as an escon attached 3592-E05/TS1120. The tape drives are attached to a controller via scsi and the controller is escon/ficon attached. 1. Do you have an existing controller that will support these tape drives? IBM 3592-J70 for one? 2. Do you want a

Re: Updating 5.1 to 5.3

2007-07-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
To elaborate a little on what Kris said, the move to 5.2 really improved on the use of storage below the 2G line. It removed most of CP's dependence on low memory addresses. This was a huge relief for many of us who were hogtied by the 2G line. In order to accomplish it, the CP had to become fully

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-13 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I don't have anything in the way of old equipment such as that or even pictures, but I have some "historical" information. I started working for IBM in 1967 in a marketing branch office in Chicago. I would dutifully update my IBM sales manual, replacing pages and pitching the old ones. Somet

Re: Updating 5.1 to 5.3

2007-07-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 07/13/2007 at 10:21 EDT, "Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am going to update from z/VM 5.1 to z/VM 5.3. > > I was wondering if anyone else has done this, and if there are any 'gotchas'. > > A more specific question are there any confiq changes in the TCP/IP config

Re: TS1120 Costs

2007-07-13 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Laflamme > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 10:39 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: TS1120 Costs > > > While I wait for a return call from an IBM reseller, can > anyone give me

TS1120 Costs

2007-07-13 Thread Nick Laflamme
While I wait for a return call from an IBM reseller, can anyone give me a rough ballpark number for the cost of an ESCON attached 3592/TS1120 tape drive? The whole point would be to start encrypting tapes that will go off-site, if that narrows down which variant I need. I just love it when man

Re: Updating 5.1 to 5.3

2007-07-13 Thread Kris Buelens
z/VM 5.2 changed a lot in its storage management to improve handling real storage above 2GB. Consequently, if you'd have execs that use information from CP control blocks, they may have to be adapted before they can run in z/VM 5.3. With other words: the step from 5.1 to 5.2 is bigger than from

Re: OT: old equipment Re: RES: 3174 Don't work with TCP/IP Under VMESA

2007-07-13 Thread Tom Duerbusch
That looks like an IBM 3174 01L. I still have 4 of them running. The tape drives are IBM 3420 Mod 6 (we still have 3 of them running). I don't see the IBM 3803 to run the tape drives. The rack mounted unit, reminds me of the IBM 9370 (not running one of them). Of course, the terminal is an IBM 3

Updating 5.1 to 5.3

2007-07-13 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I am going to update from z/VM 5.1 to z/VM 5.3. I was wondering if anyone else has done this, and if there are any 'gotchas'. A more specific question are there any confiq changes in the TCP/IP config file? or can I use my old (5.1) one? The hardware will remain the same z800 until the new z9 ar

Re: TCP/IP and 3174

2007-07-13 Thread David Boyes
No matter what you do, a 3174 will NOT ever work with VM TCPIP. The definitions Ray Noal gave you are for z/OS TCP. VM TCP has no support for using VTAM to drive devices. To explain the message you asked about, a CETI device presents 3 separate addresses (read, write and control). When you define

Re: REXXVSAM - Multiple Files

2007-07-13 Thread Fran Hensler
I've found the problem in REXXVSAM and made this change: From: CLC OPTION(8),28(R1)COMPARE DDNAMES ACCD0001 06696000 To: CLC OPTION(8),40(R1)COMPARE DDNAMESSRU01 06696090 REXXVSAM was comparing the DDNAME option with the RPL ddname at the wrong displa

Re: OT: old equipment

2007-07-13 Thread Phil Smith III
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >For those of you who might be in the Lafayette, Indiana area this weekend. >Vintage Computer Festival. Hmm, next we'll have an SCA spinoff, with folks dressing like old computer geeks...oh, wait, that's SCIDS. ...phsiii