Re: DIRMAINT authentication

2007-12-13 Thread Jim Bohnsack
By no additional charge, I meant that DIRMAINT or any product that would need to do authentication would not have to have a charge for having an ESM do the authentication. Jim Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 12/11/2007 at 04:05 EST, Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B) There

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/13/2007 at 02:32 EST, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently, the default is not VERIFY 1 80, but VERIFY 1 min(lrecl.1,lscreen.2) to say it in Rexx speak. Sorry. Yes, you're correct. I just can't read a simple table! :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
After trying xedit fn ft (noprof for several different record lengths, the default seems to be VER 1 *. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:31 PM To:

Re: sfmc1 error message: iew0346

2007-12-13 Thread Roger Bolan
This has been answered in a PMR. But since the problem is one of documentation (which I will try to get updated) and it has come up before in this discussion list, I decided to put the answer out here too. You should not run into this using any of the installation or service execs. But

Re: ssh

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/13/2007 at 11:52 EST, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you can use SSLSERV and just do ssl-wrapped telnet, which isn't ssh but is pretty much as good in terms of protecting your traffic. c/is pretty much as/is just as/ Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: ssh

2007-12-13 Thread David Boyes
But I don't think any of it is OpenSSH. I don't know if PuTTY supports a daemon function to handle inbound transactions. It doesn't. PuTTY is outbound only. A non-OpenSSH example is PuTTY. This is a collection of programs for the Windows environment. There is a program that does the

Re: FTP Append (Update)

2007-12-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
Yesterday and last night were busy, relatively speaking, for my 0 records detector. There were three occasions when it detected 0 record conditions as follows (times are GMT): 12/12 at 23:56:58 Detected 0 record log from location A (the trouble spot) 23:58:58 The file had records. 12/13

z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Peter . Webb
We have recently moved to z/VM 5.3 from z/VM 3.1. We are getting lots of complaints about the FLIST command. The command entry area has changed from 20 bytes down to 7 bytes. Yes, I know about PF11, but you used to be able to enter quite a few commands within the 20 bytes. Does anybody know if/how

Re: FTP Append (Update)

2007-12-13 Thread Mike Walter
Richard, What about, just for diagnostic purposes, having location A FTP the file three times. 1) FTP it to a discrete/unique file id (maybe with the filetype as rexx time('S'), seconds since midnight with an 'A' suffix, like 12345A. Save the 's' 2) FTP APPEND as you are now. 3) FTP again

Re: ssh

2007-12-13 Thread Mark Post
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 12:17 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- But I haven't heard anyone really trying to get CMS to talk to remote SSH servers. But, he's trying to go the other way, i.e., have an SSH client talk to CMS. Mark Post

Re: ssh

2007-12-13 Thread RPN01
We're not trying... But we'd love to have an ssh command on z/VM, just for non-interactive access to linux. scp and sftp would be a bonus. I'd just like to be able to do something like the following on z/VM CMS: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -c uname -a Substitute your favorite configuration or query

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/13/2007 at 11:37 EST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After trying xedit fn ft (noprof for several different record lengths, the default seems to be VER 1 *. The default is exactly as Kris said. It's documented in the Filetype Defaults appendix of the XEDIT Command

Re: RDRLIST Weirdness

2007-12-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
I see the cause of the wrap I was getting - the default is also PREFIX ON, so anything longer that the width of the screen - (length of prefix area + 1) wraps. I stand corrected/chastened. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Peter, It's been going down steadily. On VM/ESA 2.4 it was 2 bytes. We skipped ahead to z/VM 4.4 and it went down to 16 bytes. I complained (ETR) and was told I could try the old VM/ESA FLIST module. It worked, but the users were okay with 16 characters. Now we are z/VM 5.2 and it is down to 9

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Er, that was supposed to be 22 bytes not '2'. (who is this guys editor??) On 12/13/07, Ron Schmiedge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, It's been going down steadily. On VM/ESA 2.4 it was 2 bytes. We skipped ahead to z/VM 4.4 and it went down to 16 bytes. I complained (ETR) and was told I could

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Peter . Webb
It wouldn't be so bad if IBM was using the space for something useful, but it just seems to be empty 'wasted space'. Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Schmiedge Sent: December 13, 2007 16:06 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: ssh

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Kern
Sorry, I did misread the original posting. I am so used to the outbound problems, I just assumed that was what he wanted. /Tom Kern Mark Post wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 12:17 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- But I haven't heard anyone really

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Feller, Paul
Didn't know there was something other than FILELIST. Started looking at FLIST. Would the PF11 key help? It looks like the PF11 key increases the input area to end of line. Paul -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Peter . Webb
Yes, I know about PF11, but there are a lot of 'little' commands that you can enter in the 20 bytes. It's just a little bit of productivity lost for no gain. Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Feller, Paul Sent: December

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Rick Bourgeois
That's very interesting, I've never used FLIST I've always used FILEL so I never saw the change. Rick Bourgeois Virtual Software Systems, Inc. 7715 Browns Bridge Rd Gainesville, GA  30506 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-781-3200

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread George Haddad
Once upon a time, there was FLIST, but no FILELIST. Some of us old-schoolers still prefer it. Rick Bourgeois wrote: That's very interesting, I've never used FLIST I've always used FILEL so I never saw the change. Rick Bourgeois Virtual Software Systems, Inc. 7715 Browns Bridge Rd

Re: ssh

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Kern
Alan Altmark wrote: This is incorrect. As of z/VM 5.3 the CMS ftp client, telnet client, the ldap client utilities, and the SMTP server (which is also an SMTP client) are SSL-enabled. This is in addition to the updates to the telnet and ftp servers to support negotiated (aka explicit) SSL,

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Feller, Paul
I also agree with you that there looks to be a lot of empty space on the screen. Moving a few fields to the right would increase the input area. Paul -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

Re: ssh

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Kern
There is a SCIF package on th IBM Downloads page that is useful for this, but the secondary user interface is sometimes difficult to automate. http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?SCIF /Tom Kern Brian Nielsen wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:03:18 -0600, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Huegel, Thomas
FLIST used to be a part of CMS UTILITIES that was an extra charge feature until IBM decided to roll it into CMS. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Feller, Paul Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Kris Buelens
The great advantage of FILELIST is that you have the full power of XEDIT to manage the list. I switched from FULIST to FILELIST with FILELIST's second release of (VM/SP Rel 2?) when one no longer had to press PF10 to get the commands executed Do users of FLIST never miss something like

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Nope, never :-) What I like about FLIST is I can easily set up the PF keys the way I want (see FLIST $PROFILE). We have used this to give users customized things they can do. Including removing the ability to edit the files (ever have a user edit a listing to change the numbers on a report,

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Schuh, Richard
You can do the same for FILELIST by creating your own profile and specifying it via DEFAULTS. Mine first invokes PROFFLST and then changes what I want changed. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Lewis
My favorite FLIST function is entering a bunch of commands and then hitting PF3 to exit FLIST and have the commands run.

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Nielsen
Create the 2 files shown below, then use FL instead of FILEIST. Feel fre e to change the names to suit your taste. FL EXEC --- /* */ arg data push 'set pf2 before macro execute cursor exec b' 'FILELIST' data B EXEC --- /* */ arg data 'browse' data Brian Nielsen

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Nielsen
Or just use this as your FILELIST profile: /* */ 'MACRO PROFFLST' 'set pf2 before macro execute cursor BROWSE' (The below was QAD and didn't need the B EXEC.) Brian Nielsen On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:37:29 -0600, Brian Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Create the 2 files shown below, then use

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Cool! Thanks Brian. I guess I would still need to pull PROFFLST SXEDIT apart and figure out how to change the description (still says REFRESH)... 'execute cursor browse' works too without a B exec. I use the synonym command to make BROWSE shorter when I have to type... On 12/13/07, Brian Nielsen

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Doug Breneman
You can use the following macro to set PF10 to BROWSE and even display it at the bottom of the screen. I used PF10 just because it was available. This macro is based on the example shown in the appendix of the CMS Command and Utilities Reference. /* MYFLIST XEDIT -- My FILELIST profile to add

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Thanks Doug. Must be Christmas! I don't want to sound ungrateful, but am I wrong in still thinking that entering this line in FLIST $PROFILE: *PFKEYS 10 BRW BROWSE the file on cursor line and then updating the last line to include '10 BRW' is a little simpler and easier? Ron On 12/13/07,

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Doug Breneman
Hi Ron, You are correct; it is easy to update FLIST $PROFILE for a PF key. Someone on the list indicated that it would be useful if he could get a PF key for BROWSE in FILELIST. I appended to show how this could be done. I am not trying to convert anyone from FLIST to FILELIST. Both can get

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I could retire if a had a dollar, or certainly a euro, for every time I heard the religious argument you have the full power of XEDIT. I still have managed to keep a copy of the full strength FULIST and there are very few times when I use filelist vs fulist. Jim Kris Buelens wrote: The

Re: ssh

2007-12-13 Thread Rick Troth
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Alan Altmark wrote: The ssh and scp client-side commands have generated more interest than an ssh server. With an ssh client you do all sorts of automated management things, including allocating storage in the disk controllers! Yes. The client gives a lot of mileage.

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/13/2007 at 05:55 EST, Doug Breneman/Endicott/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can use the following macro to set PF10 to BROWSE and even display it at the bottom of the screen. If I may, here's mine: /* Get the displayed PF key settings */ 'EXTRACT /RESERVED' pfrow1_idx =