Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

2008-07-25 Thread Kris Buelens
You can indeed resuse the old SLOT numbers, ***but*** only for the PAGE volumes, ***never*** change the slot number of a volume used for SPOOL. You could have re-used SLOT numbers of PAGE volumes that were not in use when adding the new PAGE volume. 2008/7/26 Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) <[EM

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread Kris Buelens
Wrong Rob: the filename of the RESERVED disks dos not matter at all (maybe chuckie didn't, but I tried). FORMAT does take time, and in some cases (I forgot which) I really wanted that GENERATE didn't format, so I had to do the RESERVE manually too. At the end all our SFS servers had NOFORMAT in t

Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 Starter System for IBM System z

2008-07-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 25, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Austin, Alyce (CIV) wrote: HI, When I go to: http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=5E7FSKjNTqI~ This is what I see: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 Starter System for IBM System z Multilingual sles-10-sp2.starter.system.DVD.s390x.iso 3.2 GB (3470723072

Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 Starter System for IBM System z

2008-07-25 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
HI, When I go to: http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=5E7FSKjNTqI~ This is what I see: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 Starter System for IBM System z Multilingual sles-10-sp2.starter.system.DVD.s390x.iso 3.2 GB (3470723072) s10sp2.pdf 131.5 KB (134758) s10sp2.txt 95.0 KB (97315)

Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

2008-07-25 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi The PAGE ADD worked well. I have one other question pertaining to this. I have some SLOTS in my SYSCONFIG that contain PAGE VOLUMES that are no longer available. Can I replace those SLOTS with the new PAGE VOLUMES that I ADDED dynamically? When I added them dynamically they occupied SLOTS 15

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it isn't easy, I don't think defining SFS filepools is particularly > difficult, either, particularly if you use an existing filepool as a > model. It used to be tedious to format new volumes, but these days you > just

Re: Dirmaint Question

2008-07-25 Thread Kris Buelens
Issue DIRM SEND EXTENT CONTROL Receive the file, and add the new volume into it then DIRM FILE EXTENT CONTROL and DIRM RLDE If you've got my DRM package (from the VM download lib) simply issue DIRME EXTENT CONTROL to XEDIT the file. 2008/7/25 Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I currently runn

Re: Size of SFS control backup

2008-07-25 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Sue Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The DEFBACKUP command allows one to temporarily re-direct the backup > destination. Quoting from the book you may want to do this if: Ah. That made me find the BKDIRID statement in the book, for if you want to specify the

Dirmaint Question

2008-07-25 Thread Howard Rifkind
I currently running the verification for the DATAMOVE machine and I issued the following command: DIRM FOR MAINTAMDISK 2155 X AUTOV 1 530W02 The 530W02 volume was added after Dirmaint was loaded into the system. I'm getting the following messages back from the above command: Unable to

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 07/25/2008 at 10:05 EDT, Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I consider myself more than usually tolerant of system-administration- > related pain, butdamn, SFS doesn't make defining new pools exactly > *easy*, does it? If it isn't easy, I don't think defining SFS filepools

Re: SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 Starter System for IBM System z

2008-07-25 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:30 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Hilliard, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a NCC account and am able to log onto that just fine. For some > reason it just won't download the ISO files (neither SP1 nor SP2). When > I click the download button it do

Re: Size of SFS control backup

2008-07-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
A bigger concern than the required restore capability is whether you can shut down the servers. The answer in a lot of cases is that we must strive for as close to 24X7 availability of our systems as possible. That usually includes the requirement that the file pool servers be available, too. Given

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread Mike Harding
Beg to differ... The restriction on the VMSYS_ filepools is well publicized if not well known, and there are installations with a standard : filepool already and in some cases they're global. --Mike > > Given that IBM discourages use of the VMSYSx: pools for real user data, > would it make se

Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

2008-07-25 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Thanks all for the information. Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning Cell - 443 632-4191 Work - 410 786-0386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread David Boyes
> I think it is reasonable to use VMSYS and VMSYSU in the same manner that > IBM > uses them in the 'default' RMSMASTER configuration. For applications that > > are LOCAL to this system, I put control type information (config files) i > n > VMSYS and use VMSYSU for work and logfiles. At disaster r

Re: CP Message

2008-07-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
You are right - I started counting bytes from the left starting at 1 instead of 0. At lest we sensitized one vendor to look at the manuals for devices their products claim to be ;-) However, in this case, it took your looking into the same manual and seeing things differently to achieve an acceptab

Re: Size of SFS control backup

2008-07-25 Thread Sue Farrell
> This does beg the question, is there any significant performance > difference when writing to the filemode vs. writing to an unaccessed > directory? No, when the destination for the control data backup is an SFS directory, the same routines are used, regardless of whether the directory is ac

Re: CP Message

2008-07-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 07/25/2008 at 12:58 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks to Alan's help and the pointer to the manual that he provided, > the devices can now be detached without creating an error message. I had > searched for that document number and only got an Operator's manual a

Re: CP Message

2008-07-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
Thanks to Alan's help and the pointer to the manual that he provided, the devices can now be detached without creating an error message. I had searched for that document number and only got an Operator's manual as the result. I guess searching Documentation was not the right thing to do when lookin

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
Are you wanting to create a new file pool or add space to one? Adding space to a file pool has been turned into a piece of cake compared to what it used to be. It is now a four step procedure. The FILEPOOL MINIDISK command does the real work. I just added space to two file pools this week and did n

Re: Nice idea in blog: Should we toss x86 architecture - NOT.

2008-07-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 25, 2008, at 8:48 AM, McKown, John wrote: Somewhat like BOCH? I remember somebody saying that they ran Windows on BOCH on an old P/390. A little more data: the straight-up portable-emulation x86 code-path is still not a good idea. I got the current released bochs (20080720) buil

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: It doesn't seem that difficult, just follow the instructions. It may be drudgery, but the cookbook does work ;-) OK. Compare to "adding more storage to ZFS" or "adding more storage to a Linux LVM2 volume." Sure, I'm not having to manua

Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

2008-07-25 Thread Bill Holder
Richard is correct. The only type of CP Owned space the cylinder 0 restriction applies to is TDISK, and CPFMTXA / ICKDSF enforces that restriction when allocating TDISK space. There are suggestions in various places to avoid cylinder 0 in general, b ut the restriction really only applies to TDI

Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

2008-07-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
That is not necessary for either page or spool space. CP will protect the vital data on cylinder 0 if you go ahead and allocate it. 0-end is a usable range of cylinders. That is documented and it does work. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
It doesn't seem that difficult, just follow the instructions. It may be drudgery, but the cookbook does work ;-) The fellow who created the two VM systems to use for our annual benchmarking had to include SFS in this year's configuration. He didn't have all that much trouble doing it, and he had no

Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

2008-07-25 Thread Brandt, Mark H
Sorry, that should read .. (keep cyl 0 as perm the rest should be page) for the allocate Mark Brandt Enterprise Storage and Servers Delivery Systems Phone: (425) 865-1494 From: Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

2008-07-25 Thread Aria Bamdad
Also be sure to add the same information to your SYSTEM CONFIG files located on the PARM disks of MAINT (CF1, CF2, CF3) in the same slot number. That way, the next time you IPL, your new page device will be there also. Aria. On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:01:21 -0700 Brandt, Mark H said: > >Hi Terry, > >

Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

2008-07-25 Thread Davis, Larry
Yes if you have Slots available to allocate the new paging volume to. Do a Query CPOWNED see if you have any Reserved slots Larry Davis Tata Consultancy Services email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tata Consultancy Services

Re: Adding Paging Dynamically

2008-07-25 Thread Brandt, Mark H
Hi Terry, Yes ... for full volumes Format and allocate paging volume .. (keep cyl 1 as perm the rest should be page) Then : Q CPOWNED (Determine next slot number. CP DEFINE CPOWNED SLOT nn volid ATT xxx SYSTEM (Attach the device to the system CP START DASD realaddr PAGE

Adding Paging Dynamically

2008-07-25 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi Is there a way to add PAGING packs to my z/VM 5.3 system dynamically as in z/OS? Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning Cell - 443 632-4191 Work - 410 786-0386 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Nice idea in blog: Should we toss x86 architecture - NOT.

2008-07-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 25, 2008, at 8:48 AM, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary M. Dennis Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Nice idea in blog: Should we toss x86 architecture

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 25, 2008, at 7:36 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote: Resist the idea to use VMSYS* filepools for other purposes. Any time saved by hijacking the VMSERVU configuration to hold your own data is normally paid back later at a less convenient moment. I consider myself more than usually tolerant of

Re: Nice idea in blog: Should we toss x86 architecture - NOT.

2008-07-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary M. Dennis > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:34 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Nice idea in blog: Should we toss x86 architecture - NOT. > > z/VOS is written to support

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread Thomas Kern
I think it is reasonable to use VMSYS and VMSYSU in the same manner that IBM uses them in the 'default' RMSMASTER configuration. For applications that are LOCAL to this system, I put control type information (config files) i n VMSYS and use VMSYSU for work and logfiles. At disaster recovery, I do

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-25 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also find (aside from where Tom's suggestion is needed) > that it is helpful for the VMID of the SFS server to match > the name of the filepool it serves. Helpful is an understatement in this context.It is very effective