connect DS8100 linux

2009-03-09 Thread Tariq Alqwasmeh
Hi; We have z/vm v5r2 running suze v10 as a guest. Defined in ds8100 eckd mode fibber connection. The question wee need to reconfigure the ds8100 to reclaim big portion of it in oreder to allocate big FBA disk to be used by linux. Can any body help in this issue??

Re: Using LBYONLY

2009-03-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/06/2009 at 12:47 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: Ah, but I do have a point. The REJECT * LOGON does not allow the same type of override that is allowed by other rules. In this, there is inconsistency. Actually, I have two points. The second is that, if LOGON is

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread David L. Craig
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 02:10:24PM -0400, Richard Troth wrote: ECKD (today) is an IBM hardware solution for a software problem. Originally, CKD exposed not only counts and keys (thus the acronym) but more significantly tracks and records. NO ONE but MVS (and TPF) has a firm requirement for

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Edward M Martin
Hello, I am not sure that he implied that but the FBA idea was FORCEd from VSE because MVS/OS could not handle it. Removing FBA would make VSE more z/OS like. 3310, 3370, 9336 are all FBA. FBA eliminated the conversion problem, and IMHO was faster access. Migration to larger devices was just

Re: Using LBYONLY

2009-03-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
I did not wield one of those noodles :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Using LBYONLY On

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
Which ones would those have been? Our 360/50 used punched mylar cards. Any kind of disk that was available at the time would have been physically too large to fit in the frame :-) Regards, Richard Schuh Why not FBA? Oh, seems to me that some of the older high strength CPU's used FBA

Re: Using LBYONLY

2009-03-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/06/2009 at 03:31 EST, Bob Bolch b...@zenoroad.com wrote: It?s perfectly fine to discuss the way things ?should be? ?vs- the way things ?are?, but when a design is more than 20 years old, as in this case, then the way it works now is, by definition, the way it should be.

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Edward M Martin
I believe that the 3090 or something similar. It has been awhile since the CE and I talked about devices. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 ext 40441 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent:

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Nick Laflamme
I'll take What are 3090s? for $100, Alex. As I recall, their VM-lite hypervisor (was it already called PR/SM?) used 3310s. I don't think 308x's did, but I'm not sure. Don't get me started about the time the outsourcing company I worked for agreed to migrate a 9370 VM/VSE customer onto a 3090

Re: Using LBYONLY

2009-03-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
And if we do not discuss the way things should be vs. the way they are, there will never be any progress. We will always be mired in the past and become, dare I say it, dinosaurs. Even T-Rex was only around for about 3 million years - a very short time in geological terms (the Cretaceous Period,

FW: Estimated speed/duplex values for virtual NICs

2009-03-09 Thread David Boyes
Based on packet delivery being a memory-to-memory operation with diag2a8, I'm leaning toward just inserting an estimated value of 10Gbit/sec per interface for the speed estimate reported by dladm. Does anyone else have a better value or an idea of how to measure this value? Further, does

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread David Boyes
The 308x had a FBA device for the support processor to use. Wasn't customer accessible, though. I remember helping a CE replace one once when it failed on a 3081D. Messy. The MAP ran for tens of pages. On 3/9/09 11:42 AM, Edward M Martin emar...@aultman.com wrote: I believe that the 3090 or

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Kennedy
The 3090 had a complete 4331 for a support processor. Jeffry A. Kennedy Certco,Inc jkenn...@certcoinc.com 608-270-2385 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Edward M Martin Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:42 AM To:

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Kris Buelens
Shall I plead a tiny bit for CKD? - VSAM has the ability to store (replicate?) the lowest level index set in front of the track where the data reside. This to avoid seek, the idea was that the higher level index blocks would be buffered in storage. But, who cares/who has time nowadays to get

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Tom Duerbusch
That seems to imply that the x-link part of CSE can't be on FCP attached drives... I thought I've read that z/VM can be installed entirely on FCP attached drives. But I didn't read that much in detail if there were functions that wouldn't work in that world. Perhaps a future release would

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Bob Levad
In the distant past, we had a device called a Fast Paging Unit attached to our 4381. This had many large boards each containing many dozens of small memory chips. It was channel attached and emulated a partial 3380. We allocated it to HPO swapping ala Vista's USB ReadyBoost. Bob

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
Ah, but which impossibilities are they working to turn into realities? Regards, Richard Schuh Impossible is just hyperbole for No one ever did the work. See that faint glow on the distant horizon? That's the visible energy given off by elves turning the Impossible into Reality.

Re: FW: Estimated speed/duplex values for virtual NICs

2009-03-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 03/09/2009 at 12:09 EDT, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: Further, does VSWITCH support generating BCI (backward congestion indicator) frames? Never heard of it. Whatever they are, the VSWITCH doesn't generate them or cause them to be generated. Alan Altmark z/VM

Re: FW: Estimated speed/duplex values for virtual NICs

2009-03-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
FWIW, The channel bonding stuff (SuSE 10) seems to also care about speed/duplex values and can't get them from a dedicated OSA either. It complains and goes on its merry way: bonding: bond0: Warning: failed to get speed and duplex from eth0, assumed to be 100Mb/sec and Full Marcy

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Dave Wade
I remember having a 3370 (I think) replaced on a 4331. The CE said the reason the MAP ran for so many pages was that the Head and Drive assembly (HDA) was the most expensive part of the drive, so the Diagnostic floppy would exhaustively test every component before it failed the Head and Drive

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
I haven't experienced a failure of an HDA since the days the airline only allowed VM to have 3380-A04 and -B04 devices that were hand-me-downs from MVS and TPF. It took a week of 7 HDA failures during the 5 day work week, all housing critical data, before they finally bought new DASD for VM. I

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
I could have written the exact the same story - just need to strike the and TPF words and the word airline.. Ah if only we had this IBMVM list back then, we could have commiserated together. The most fun was losing the volume with the directory on a Friday afternoon. Nowadays, none of that

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-09 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I don't miss the bad old days. From someone who has seen the bad old days for 42 years, Mar. 6, 1967. Jim Marcy Cortes wrote: I could have written the exact the same story - just need to strike the and TPF words and the word airline.. Ah if only we had this IBMVM list back then, we could