Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Kline, Martin
You're specifying virtual 300, 301 and 302? What distro? What error are you getting? Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.2 (Tikanga) Kernel 2.6.18-92.el5 on an s390x I am trying to get the actual error messages from the Linux guy.

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Kline, Martin
Hans said: Can you provide the LINUX IP configuration. Lastly, I believe this is not a problem as long as you use 3 consecutive addresses for your nic/OSA card but your skipped 703 OSA card address I have to get the Linux config from the Linux guy. Somewhere in the many documents I read about

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Bill Munson
shouldn't there be a modify/grant statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG after the vswitch define ? MODIFY VSWITCH VM3SWTCH GRANT MLXESS1S Bill Munson Hans Rempel h...@hmrconsultants.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/13/2009 11:16 PM Please respond to

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 08/14/2009 at 08:30 EDT, Kline, Martin martin.kl...@yrcw.com wrote: Somewhere in the many documents I read about setting this up, I saw that the NIC had to start on an even address. Maybe that's old info. When OSAs were first introduced it was true. It hasn't been true for many

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Kline, Martin
shouldn't there be a modify/grant statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG after the vswitch define ? MODIFY VSWITCH VM3SWTCH GRANT MLXESS1S I mayt be wrong, but I believe this is covered by the commands in AUTOLOG1's PROFILE: 'CP SET VSWITCH VSWITCH1 GRANT OZLXINIT' 'CP SET VSWITCH VSWITCH1 GRANT

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Kline, Martin
Alan said: When OSAs were first introduced it was true. It hasn't been true for many many years. Same goes for PORTNAME. Don't specify it in *any* Linux or z/VM configuration element. All that does is complicate matters. Which all argues against relying on Redbooks as a dependable source of

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 08/14/2009 at 08:09 EDT, Kline, Martin martin.kl...@yrcw.com wrote: RDEV: 0704.P00 VDEV: 0704 Controller: DTCVSW1 VSWITCH Connection: MAC address: 00-11-25-BD-4D-E4 RX Packets: 0 Discarded: 997Errors: 0 TX Packets: 3 Discarded: 0 Errors: 0

QIOASSIST question

2009-08-14 Thread Colin Allinson
Background: z/VM 5.4 RSU0902 We have recently been having a TPF guest system fail. An analysis of the dump shows it is related (in some way) to an OSA timeout. The exact cause is not clear, and there are a number of possible red herrings floating around. However, while I was looking at the VM

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Bill Munson
sorry I missed that munson Kline, Martin martin.kl...@yrcw.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/14/2009 08:50 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Configuring and Using a

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-14 Thread David L. Craig
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 01:59:16PM -0600, sunny...@wcb.ab.ca wrote: And our system names are associated with projects instead of the platform, I choose Mark's script as an easy approach even there is some human adjustments needed.:) This is amazing! No one suggested writing a script to

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 08/14/2009 at 08:39 EDT, Bill Munson william.mun...@bbh.com wrote: shouldn't there be a modify/grant statement in the SYSTEM CONFIG after the vswitch define ? MODIFY VSWITCH VM3SWTCH GRANT MLXESS1S In addition to what Martin said, remember that ESMs can provide authorization.

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:10 PM, David L. Craigd...@radix.net wrote: This is amazing!  No one suggested writing a script to go look in each vm's idea of real storage to identify its OS, version, and uptime numbers.  I fear for the future of systems programming. ;-) Yep, very few challenges

z/VM Hardware Support

2009-08-14 Thread Billy R. Bingham
Hello all, Where might I find a document listing all the releases of z/VM and the processors they will run on? Thanks, Billy

General OSA / connectivity question from a newbie

2009-08-14 Thread Charles Grady
OK dumb question #8763491264: Have a brand new z/VM 5.4.0 @ RSU0902 in an LPAR on a Z9. I also have 5 other LPARS running z/OS. The only way that I can communicate with my VM right now is to go to a dedicated real 3270 type terminal and log on ( or use the HMC ICC). What / how do I get access

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-14 Thread Mike Walter
one simple command does it Simple? I laugh in your general direction! Also, this presupposes that the one asking the question has Velocity Software performance products, and sufficient background z/VM performance analysis to utilize them in this fashion. The original question would seem to

Re: Modify Command question

2009-08-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
Thank you, Ivica! That works. And the help kinda does kinda say to do that. But using the word VIRTUAL to change the REAL rdev command threw me. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the

Re: General OSA / connectivity question from a newbie

2009-08-14 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Charles. While VTAM for z/VM is still available (I think), almost all connectivity to a modern z/VM system is done by TCP/IP (TN3270, etc.). To get z/VM's TCP/IP servers up and running, refer to the z/VM V5R4.0 TCP/IP Planning and Customization manual that you can access directly from the

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Kline, Martin
Alan said: According to other parts of the query, your Linux guest has registered 10.0.102.215 (Layer 3 VSWITCH), which looks fine based on your VM TCP/IP configuration (same subnet, no VLANs). I assume your Linux default gateway is also 10.0.102.4. Are you using a VIPA in Linux? I am worried

Re: z/VM Hardware Support

2009-08-14 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
I was given this back in January: In the z/VM Information Center, follow these threads: System Overview -- General Information -- Appendix A B Thank you, Scott -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Billy R. Bingham

Re: General OSA / connectivity question from a newbie

2009-08-14 Thread mike . wawiorko
See also: z/VM Connectivity version 5 release 4 Document Number SC24-6080-06 I found it very readable as a guide to creating VMIP stack with tn3270 SSL and for VSWITCH. Regards, Mike Mike Wawiorko Global z/OS Connectivity and Service Management GISD Platforms GRCB Technology Barclays Bank

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
If you look back in the thread, I am pretty certain that I made just such a suggestion. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David L. Craig Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:11 AM To:

Re: z/VM Hardware Support

2009-08-14 Thread Billy R. Bingham
Does anyone know if z/VM 4.4 will run on the z10 class of processors? Thanks, Billy Wandschneider wrote: I was given this back in January: In the z/VM Information Center, follow these threads: System Overview -- General Information -- Appendix A B Thank you, Scott

Re: Modify Command question

2009-08-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
Aw, Marcy. This is VM, the Land of Smoke and Mirrors. Why should having to specify virtual when you mean real be confusing? :-) Maybe it is RCF time. Clarification is a good thing. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
With this new info, is the Linux gateway maybe wrong? Should it be 10.0.219.1? something else? That was my initial thought. That's always been my problem when I see the low packet counts and discarded... Either that or vlan tagging issue, but you are running unaware. What it should be you

Re: Configuring and Using a VSWITCH

2009-08-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 08/14/2009 at 11:03 EDT, Kline, Martin martin.kl...@yrcw.com wrote: Alan said: According to other parts of the query, your Linux guest has registered 10.0.102.215 (Layer 3 VSWITCH), which looks fine based on your VM TCP/IP configuration (same subnet, no VLANs). I assume your

Re: z/VM Hardware Support

2009-08-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 08/14/2009 at 11:41 EDT, Billy R. Bingham billy.bingham...@suddenlink.net wrote: Does anyone know if z/VM 4.4 will run on the z10 class of processors? It will probably work if you have the z9 APARs applied and as long as you don't hand it chpid types, memory or CPU configurations,

Re: More pipe help, please

2009-08-14 Thread Mike Walter
Patrick, Have you downloaded and tried the PIPEDEMO package (and PDEM package to make it easier to invoke from an EXEC)? PIPEDEMO has a way of making very difficult Pipe processes much more obvious - not always, but often enough. PIPEDEMO is a great tool, IMHO anyone writing CMS Pipelines

Re: z/VM Hardware Support

2009-08-14 Thread Billy R. Bingham
Marketing support :) Billy Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Friday, 08/14/2009 at 11:41 EDT, Billy R. Bingham billy.bingham...@suddenlink.net wrote: Does anyone know if z/VM 4.4 will run on the z10 class of processors? It will probably work if you have the z9 APARs

ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread Mark Llewellyn
Any veteran ISPF/PDF SMEs out there? We have an ancient and soon-to-be decommissioned ISPF/PDF application tha t makes use of an enormous MACLIB on a shared mult-write minidisk. Scary, I know, but that's the way ISPF works on CMS. This maclib can grow by millions of records per day, due to

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/13/2009 at 05:31 EDT, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.gov wrote: You could use Q NSS NAME xxx MAP to find out how many CMS users (xxx=INSTSEG, CMSPIPES, or CMSVMLIB) and how many GCS users (xxx=GCS) there are an subtract from the Q USERS total to get a count of users

Re: Modify Command question

2009-08-14 Thread Ivica Brodaric
You're welcome, Marcy! Yes, it is unintuitive (a lot), but at least you can use one command to change the privilege classes, since it's the only one with IBMCLASS B under QUERY VIRTUAL. If it was put under general QUERY, then using SUBCMD * IBMCLASS B would change more than one subcommand and

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-14 Thread Adam Thornton
On Aug 14, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: IPL 190 PARM NOSPROF INSTSEG NO Who am I? :-) With that line, most likely Chucky. Adam

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-14 Thread Phil Smith III
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Alan or Chucky wrote: IPL 190 PARM NOSPROF INSTSEG NO Who am I? :-) Trying to create a one-size-fits-all algorithm won't work. At the end of the day analyzing INDICATE USER with knowledge of what your guests IPL is as good as anything. If your system is,

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread P S
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Mark Llewellynmllew...@visa.com wrote: Any veteran ISPF/PDF SMEs out there? We have an ancient and soon-to-be decommissioned ISPF/PDF application that makes use of an enormous MACLIB on a shared mult-write minidisk.  Scary, I know, but that's the way ISPF

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
Unfortunately, that will not fly with the application. There are always several users who have the disk MW. It is a heavily used application and users keep it linked active for long periods. The main users of it live in the application. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message-

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
Gee, nothing works. You might as well have an EXEC like this: /* */ return random(1,99) /* Substitute whatever you like for the range. */ Kidding aside, establishing a naming convention and sticking to it is probably the best bet. That plus filtering based on the information from IND USER (IPL

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread P S
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Schuh, Richardrsc...@visa.com wrote: Unfortunately, that will not fly with the application. There are always several users who have the disk MW. It is a heavily used application and users keep it linked active for long periods. The main users of it live in

Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?

2009-08-14 Thread David L. Craig
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 08:29:01AM -0700, Schuh, Richard wrote: If you look back in the thread, I am pretty certain that I made just such a suggestion. Sorry if I missed it--I was in a bit of a rush. Actually, I still am... -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave Craig

SSIDs anymore?

2009-08-14 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Subsystem IDs I know you still have to define them in the controllers, but are they used anymore? We use to need them for EREP, but all the current hardware seems to have their own service processor that makes EREP useless. Perhaps large shops still need them for something. What happens

Re: SSIDs anymore?

2009-08-14 Thread Aria Bamdad
The SSID shows up on the performance toolkit screens. I am sure it appears on reports generated by other performance monitors also. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:59

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
Access control is an ISPF function, I presume that one of the two locks (LMF or SCLM) is used to prevent concurrent updates of the same member. It must also have some way to serialize the updates of the library. That is an area that I have avoided. I hate working with kludges or black boxes.

Re: SSIDs anymore?

2009-08-14 Thread Feller, Paul
As far as I know it is still important that you don't have duplicate SSIDs. It still shows up in z/VM displays and z/OS displays. You can still do commands in both z/VM and z/OS using the SSID. I always assign the SSID to match the CUNUMBR. We always have the CUNUMBR match the first device

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread Llewellyn, Mark
The MACLIB is updated via PDF dialog table services, driven by a number of older REXX EXECs. It contains hundreds of members, which can be updated at any time, and new members are added every day. I'm unsure if ISPF/PDF locks a member, or a table row, each time it's updated. Nevertheless,

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread P S
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Llewellyn, Markmllew...@visa.com wrote: The MACLIB is updated via PDF dialog table services, driven by a number of older REXX EXECs.  It contains hundreds of members, which can be updated at any time, and new members are added every day. I'm unsure if

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
Considering that it is ISPF, I would be worried that taking down the SVM would simply kill all of the protective mechanisms that ISPF employs to keep the users from trashing the file because of the MW links. In the absence of knowledge about its purpose, I would not suggest blindly taking it

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread Stephen Frazier
Schuh, Richard wrote: The developers of the application chose to have the data maintained in a single, ever-increasing, highly used, frequently updated ISPF library, with no maintenance routines, and no good way to identify obsolete members. The application was already firmly entrenched when

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread P S
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Schuh, Richardrsc...@visa.com wrote: Considering that it is ISPF, I would be worried that taking down the SVM would simply kill all of the protective mechanisms that ISPF employs to keep the users from trashing the file because of the MW links. In the absence

Re: ISPF/PDF CMS MACLIB - Maintenance

2009-08-14 Thread Les Koehler
Explain the problem to management and let them decide if they want to Bet The Business on the current exposure. If not, let them announce to everyone when ISPF will be unavailable and FORCE all the users and take the ISPF disk away by whatever means are available (I'm retired and was not a