Re: Bug in REXX

2010-09-27 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Hmmmmust be more to it than that: 3 *-* flag=1 (added this so #5 doesn't fail) L 1 4 *-* Parse value '999' with bbb L 999 999 5 *-* flag=flag

Re: Bug in REXX

2010-09-27 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Yes, that one I get: 10 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 9 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 8 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 7 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 999 6 999 999 999 999 999 BBB.6 999 999 999 999 5 999 999 999 999 999 BBB.6 999 999 999 999 4 999

Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Michel Beaulieu
Hello, I want to share JAVA code between platforms. Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS? Thanks, Michel Beaulieu Montreal, Canada |*|

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Dave Jones
Yes, there is, but it's very old, and certainly out of date. You might try logging onto the z/VM home page and searching for IBM® JavaTM Port for VM/ESA, Developer Release 1.1.6. Good luck. On 09/27/2010 09:50 AM, Michel Beaulieu wrote: Hello, I want to share JAVA code between

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Robert J Brenneman
Is the 2109 zoned to allow the z10 to access the storage device? Did you IPL a linux guest or LPAR and use it to drive a fabric login or fabric discovery ? The ESS and DS4700 will only show you the hosts which have contacted them, since they don't do discovery of the host systems. The z10 will

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Michael Donovan
There was a Java port for CMS, in days long gone. It was withdrawn from the product and the web pages were removed after z/VM 4.4.0. If you had installed the Developer Release 1.1.6 on a system prior to that and migrated that Byte File System forward, you could continue to use it on newer

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
Robert, Yes, 2109 and 2005 were zonned to allow z10 access. Same zone was used to test access to intel, so zonned is working ok. I can´t bring up a linux image, since I´m not able to define storage to be used by this image. My problem is before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or linux under it.

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Riedel, Alexander
Do you have defined the FCP SCSI-WWPNs on the HMC? And set the flag Enable SCSI IPL ? Alexander From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Carlos Bodra - Pessoal Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 5:12 PM To:

z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
Hi I´m trying to connect a z10 to a shark using FCP protocol, but without success. We did some tests that are describe below: 1 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as Ficon. Works fine 2 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as FCP.

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Raymond Higgs
Carlos, z10 with ESS800 should work fine point-to-point. That config was tested a lot here in Poughkeepsie. We don't have a ds4700. It should work though. There is some configuration that needs to be done inside linux. You need to tell linux which busid (device number), target wwpn, and

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Riedel, Alexander
Have you read the Redbook Fibre Channel Protocol for Linux and z/VM on IBM System z ? http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247266.pdf Alexander From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Carlos Bodra - Pessoal

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Raymond Higgs
Carlos, What do you mean by My problem is before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or linux under it.? I'm confused. Are you trying to SCSI IPL vm? If you installed a vm system onto ECKD storage on an ESS800, then you have to IPL it with your ficon channels. If you have a scsi vm system, then use

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-27 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Frank, Your approach is quick and reliable and we would like to implement it here. How can I obtain a copy of your FLASH2ND EXEC? Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 09/24/2010 11:02 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM

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Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Walter
George, There's nothing keeping you from making a backup copy (using COPYFILE with the OLDDATE option of course!!) of CPLOAD MODULE to another name before you run PUT2PROD. We keep up to 9 levels of backout CPLOAD MODULEs around on the (enlarged) CF1 and CF2 disks, using a making standard

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
Ray, Sorry for a not so clear definition. What happens is that we are trying to define Open System Storage in ESS800 and when we try to allocate dasd space to z10 (open space using FCP defined ports), ESS800 didn´t able to complete configuration, so I can´t define a volume inside this

How to determine SYSRES

2010-09-27 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
How can you determine the SYSRES volume? (Other that interrogating the SYSTEM CONFIG under System_Residence) (I know it's within the CPOWNED list, but I don't want to depend on the VolSer to find it) (Too bad there's not a CP Q SYSRES) Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP,

Re: How to determine SYSRES

2010-09-27 Thread Gregg
CP Query CPLOAD? On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.comwrote: How can you determine the SYSRES volume? (Other that interrogating the SYSTEM CONFIG under System_Residence) (I know it’s within the CPOWNED list, but I don’t want to depend on the VolSer

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
Ray, Just to clarify, can I connect directly z10 port defined as FCP (IOCP) to a ESS800 SW2 defined FCP? (no switch needed) Carlos Bodra IBM zSeries Certified Specialist Sao Paulo - Brazil Em 27/09/2010 12:20, Raymond Higgs escreveu: Carlos, z10 with ESS800 should work fine

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-27 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
There seems to be a difference of opinion about how safe it is to simply rename the cpload and apply maintenance at Level 1 instead of burning it in on Level 2. You seem confident that this is doable with minimal risk. others say never make changes without first implementing them at Level 2

Re: Virtualizing a z10

2010-09-27 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:53:04 -0400, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: z/VM did not cast off the z9. z/VM 5.4 has continued to receive significant updates and will stay in service for the next several years. Even though z/VM 5.4 will be in service for the next several years, there

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-27 Thread David Boyes
There seems to be a difference of opinion about how safe it is to simply rename the cpload and apply maintenance at Level 1 instead of burning it in on Level 2. You seem confident that this is doable with minimal risk. others say never make changes without first implementing them at Level 2

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-27 Thread Ray Waters
Just be sure when you rename CPLOAD MODULE to keep same FILE TPE (MODULE). Such as CPLOLD MODULE. This way, if you need to fall back to the old CP nucleus, you may PF9 (filelist) from the SAPL screen and select CPLOLD MODULE. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System

Re: How to determine SYSRES

2010-09-27 Thread Scott Rohling
Try CP Q CPLOAD ... Scott Rohling On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.comwrote: How can you determine the SYSRES volume? (Other that interrogating the SYSTEM CONFIG under System_Residence) (I know it’s within the CPOWNED list, but I don’t want to

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 09/27/2010 at 12:55 EDT, Carlos Bodra - Pessoal cbo...@terra.com.br wrote: As I describe in previous email, ports (at ess800 and z10) and fibre cable are ok, since if I chance ports to Ficon protocol all works fine. A question arrised now: ports are SX (shot wave) in both

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
Hi Alan, Yes, I changed IOCDS and did a power on reset. Since this machine isn´t in production, I can do POR as I need. Carlos Bodra IBM zSeries Certified Specialist Sao Paulo - Brazil Em 27/09/2010 14:03, Alan Altmark escreveu: On Monday, 09/27/2010 at 12:55 EDT, Carlos Bodra

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Walter
You seem confident that this is doable with minimal risk ... I'm not sure how you can draw that conclusion from my post, I never mentioned 1st or 2nd level therein. Only that you can COPYFILE CPLOAD MODULE fm -1CPLOAD MODULE fm (OLDDATE before PUT2PROD ever gets involved. That was in

Re: Applying Maintenance - Best Practice

2010-09-27 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
tyvm, Mike. Sorry for misinterpreting your previous email, but I am glad I was wrong and everyone is on the same page about this, everything is warm and fuzzy. Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 09/27/2010 01:11 PM Please

Re: How to determine SYSRES

2010-09-27 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
I guess you can match that up to the CPOWNED list to get the real CCUU, since it is listed only as Volume Serial Number: Module CPLOAD was loaded from minidisk on volume 540RES at cylinder 39. Parm disk number 1 is on volume 540RES, cylinders 39 through 158. Last start was a system

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Robert J Brenneman
If you wish to have the z10's WWPN appear in the ESS you'll have to get a Linux image up and running first and attempt to configure the non-existant LUN. This can be either an existing image installed on ECKD DASD or the Linux Installation media loaded from the VM RDR. It's a chicken and egg

Re: How to determine SYSRES

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Walter
I guess you can match that up to the CPOWNED list to get the real CCUU, since it is listed only as Volume Serial Number: Or, simply: CP QUERY DASD volser Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com

Re: Virtualizing a z10

2010-09-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 09/27/2010 at 12:59 EDT, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.gov wrote: Even though z/VM 5.4 will be in service for the next several years, there are already concerns about the cost of upgrading to z10s in order to stay on a supported z/VM version. Alternatives under consideration

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Sterling James
It's a chicken and egg problem: you need Linux to connect to the ESS so that you can create the LUN to attach to Linux. Couldn't you accomplish the same result by defining an EDEV with a non-existant LUN through VM? - Please consider the environment

Re: VM64814 information

2010-09-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 09/23/2010 at 11:27 EDT, Alan Ackerman alan.acker...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Support Statement: IBM is supporting this in customer test environments until APAR VM64816 becomes available later this year (2010). IBM will support all z/VM production environments at that time.

Re: Virtualizing a z10

2010-09-27 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
As Marcy previously observed, the z196's should bring the cost of z10's down dramatically. Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 09/27/2010 01:28 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Robert J Brenneman
That'll be easier to drive the initial fabric and device login that the ESS is looking for, but I'm not as familiar with how you'd use the VM tools to debug zoning or lun masking issues - I'm more familiar with the Linux tools. If you're more of a VM person than a Linux person it's probably a

Re: How to determine SYSRES

2010-09-27 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
...and find the CP OWNED on in that list (if you have more than one): DASD 06F8 CP OWNED 540RES 103 DASD 9180 540RES DASD 9192 ATTACHED TO AILPROD 19E0 R/W 540RES Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Raymond Higgs
Carlos, Yes. Ray Higgs System z FCP Development Bld. 706, B24 2455 South Road Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 (845) 435-8666, T/L 295-8666 rayhi...@us.ibm.com The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 09/27/2010 12:53:26 PM: Carlos Bodra - Pessoal cbo...@terra.com.br Sent by:

Re: How to determine SYSRES

2010-09-27 Thread Mike Walter
cp q dasd 540res DASD 0902 CP SYSTEM 540RES 0 DASD 0903 540RES , DASD 0907 540RES (We relabel IBM's installation volsers before going into production. But I clipped those three shown above just to show that CP Q DASD volser will show duplicate volsers, even those not in the CPOWNED

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Raymond Higgs
Carlos, Yes, the short wave optics and fibre that worked as ficon will work as FCP. Ray Higgs System z FCP Development Bld. 706, B24 2455 South Road Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 (845) 435-8666, T/L 295-8666 rayhi...@us.ibm.com The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Raymond Higgs
Carlos, If you are having problems creating volumes on the ESS800, then this is not a problem with your mainframe. Updating the IOCDS isn't going to help create these volumes. Ray Higgs System z FCP Development Bld. 706, B24 2455 South Road Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 (845) 435-8666, T/L 295-8666

Re: Bug in REXX

2010-09-27 Thread Chip Davis
Frank, you're missing a crucial '.' in the Parse on line 4. You are setting the simple variable 'bbb' to '999', not setting the default for the stem variable bbb. -Chip- On 9/27/10 12:37 Frank M. Ramaekers said: Hmmmmust be more to it than that: 3 *-* flag=1 (added

Refresh PROFILE TCPIP

2010-09-27 Thread Steve Perez
Greetings, Is there a way to dynamically refresh the definitions in the PROFILE TCPI P file without bouncing the TCPIP address space on z/VM 5.4 with TCPIP 5.4? In particular, I want to activate and setup the MONITORRECORDS statement. Thanks. Regards, Steve.

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Alan Ackerman
Unfortunately, CMS Java performed very poorly so I would not recommend tr y to find a copy. I think people waited for IBM to fix the Java performance, and IBM waited f or customers to use it, and eventually it went away. I do not remember any screaming on this list when the removal was first

Re: Refresh PROFILE TCPIP

2010-09-27 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:42:11 -0500, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com w rote: Greetings, Is there a way to dynamically refresh the definitions in the PROFILE TCP IP file without bouncing the TCPIP address space on z/VM 5.4 with TCPIP 5.4 ? Yes, read up on the TCP/IP OBEYFILE command. In

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Barton Robinson
I think the cms java performed very poorly could be revisited. back then, the mainframe was at most 400Mhz? or less? of course it performed poorly. so now the processors have caught up and surpassed and are about an order of magnitude faster. This had nothing to do with software, this was a

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Alan Ackerman
Maybe. There was discussion at the time that CMS Java needed a JIT (Just In Time) compiler and did not have one. Even with much faster mainframes, I think this would be a problem. If anyone has time and resources to test this, I'd love to hear how it works out. I 'm not doing CMS performance

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Les Koehler
I seem to recall that NetRexx would run on CMS, back before I retired. That would require a compiler and JVM, yes? Les Alan Ackerman wrote: Maybe. There was discussion at the time that CMS Java needed a JIT (Just In Time) compiler and did not have one. Even with much faster mainframes, I