fresh install without network

2011-01-18 Thread Rogério Soares
Hi Listeners, I'm try install a fresh copy of zvm 5.4 on a new z196 machine, but for some reason, after install z/vm, run ipwizard and do a shutdown reipl the machine comes back without network, but running ipwizard again without change anything networks back... anybody has this problem

RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Feller, Paul
I'm posting this question for a co-worker who is working on our conversion from z/VM 5.3 to 5.4. I've got three z/VM LPARs that share a RACF database. It is not shared with any other systems. The LPARs were running z/VM Version 5 Release 3.0, service level 1001 (64-bit). I upgraded one of

TERMINAL SYS3270 ON and BRKKEY

2011-01-18 Thread Jeff Gribbin
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Knock, knock, ...

2011-01-18 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
I haven't see a post on here since Friday.Is everyone just being quiet? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701

CMS disk weirdness between processors

2011-01-18 Thread Martha McConaghy
I'm in the process of migrating our production LPARs from a z9 to a z10 and I've found a bit of weirdness. Since the z10 has been around awhile, I assume this isn't anything new, but I wonder why it is happening. I've found that a CMS minidisk that is created while on the z9, is readable by a VM

RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Feller, Paul
I'm posting this question for a co-worker who is working on our conversion from z/VM 5.3 to 5.4. I've got three z/VM LPARs that share a RACF database. It is not shared with any other systems. The LPARs were running z/VM Version 5 Release 3.0, service level 1001 (64-bit). I upgraded one of

Re: Knock, knock, ...

2011-01-18 Thread Charles Grady
I think that's it. Monday was a holiday you know. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:12 PM To: framaek...@ailife.com; Charles Grady; IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Knock, knock, ... I haven't see a post on here since Friday.

Re: CMS disk weirdness between processors

2011-01-18 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Martha, Maybe minidisk cache is active on one of the systems. Did you define the DASD as Shared?     Dennis 18 Jan 1911, one hundred years ago today, Eugene Ely makes the

Re: Knock, knock, ...

2011-01-18 Thread Edward M Martin
Hello Frank, There have been a lot. Last one was about CMS disk weirdness between processors Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-363-5050 ext 35050 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Tuesday, January 18,

Re: CMS disk weirdness between processors

2011-01-18 Thread Edward M Martin
Hello Martha, Would you not have to re-access the mdisk on the z9 after the z10 updated the file? To be able to read it. And if you did write to the disk from the z9, would that not cause all sorts of data errors? You know like who has the real file and what file is being updated where? Ed

Re: CMS disk weirdness between processors

2011-01-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
That doesn't sound right. MDC getting in your way? Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Martha McConaghy Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 9:16 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] CMS disk weirdness between

Re: fresh install without network

2011-01-18 Thread Bruce Hayden
Did you edit the PROFILE EXEC on AUTOLOG1 191 and add 'CP XAUTOLOG TCPIP' ? 2011/1/15 Rogério Soares rogerio.soa...@gmail.com: Hi Listeners,  I'm try install a fresh copy of zvm 5.4 on a new z196 machine, but for some reason, after install z/vm, run ipwizard and do a shutdown reipl the

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 01/18/2011 at 02:56 EST, Feller, Paul pfel...@aegonusa.com wrote: I've got three z/VM LPARs that share a RACF database. It is not shared with any other systems. The LPARs were running z/VM Version 5

Re: CMS disk weirdness between processors

2011-01-18 Thread Martha McConaghy
...blush I have to admit, I found the problem not long after sending the note to the list. It was a rookie mistake. The disk was defined as 100 cylinders on one system, but only 10 cylinders on the other. So, files written on the 2nd system were usable, but files written by the 1st system

Re: CMS disk weirdness between processors

2011-01-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
Ah, glad it was simple! Good luck! Marcy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Martha McConaghy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] CMS disk weirdness between

Re: CMS disk weirdness between processors

2011-01-18 Thread Michael Harding
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Re: CMS disk weirdness between processors

2011-01-18 Thread Phil Smith III
Martha McConaghy wrote: ...blush I have to admit, I found the problem not long after sending the note to the list. It was a rookie mistake. The disk was defined as 100 cylinders on one system, but only 10 cylinders on the other. So, files written on the 2nd system were usable, but files

Re: TERMINAL SYS3270 ON and BRKKEY

2011-01-18 Thread Kris Buelens
There's not much experience you can learn by using an emulated SYSG. For humans a real SYSG is entirely different from an emulated one. - a SYSG emulated on a PCOMM session still looks like PCOMM, with your PCOMM keyboard definitions, but without file transfer or GDDM. - a real SYSG has its own

Re: CMS disk weirdness between processors

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Walter
Martha, Could MDCACHE be getting in the way? When I share minidisks between z/VM systems in different LPARS or on different CECs, I run an EXEC to ensure that the following commands are entered before to access the disk updated on the other system, from the system where it had not been

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Walter
Ummm... Step A1. Make a DDR backup of the database disk to an MDISK that you can LINK and ACCESS even when RACF/VM is down? So that you can DDR that backup MDISK over a potentially corrupted production MDISK if things don't go perfectly the first time. I don't run RACF/VM, but I'm just

Re: fresh install without network

2011-01-18 Thread Rogério Soares
Hello Bruce, i installed z/vm 6.1, change de profile exec of autolog1, i see TCPIP machine on on ' query names' but.. no luck.. sorry if this question is too noob, but i have installed zvm several times before and everything works ok On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Bruce Hayden

Re: fresh install without network

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Walter
Rogério, Have you reviewed the console log on the TCPIP service machine? By default, they are sent to TCPMAINT's reader queue when TCPIP is logged off. Or, logon directly onto TCPIP (since it is not working anyway) and start it up by entering #CP IPL CMS Then watch the messages very

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Feller, Paul
Thanks Alan, I forwarded your reply to my co-worker and he came back with some more comments/questions. I'm not sure what , if anything, he has heard from the support center. I'm pretty sure that I have the sharing setup correctly. From SYSTEM CONFIG RDEV 96BDType DASD Shared

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Kris Buelens
The MDISK statements prove that the RACF database minidisks are not fullpack, hence CP wil not let Reserve/release propagate to the HW, hence RACFs in multiple z/VM systems can both perform updates concurrently (and destroy the database). 2011/1/18 Feller, Paul pfel...@aegonusa.com Thanks Alan,

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Scott Rohling
The DASD is defined as shared - but if you're really sharing this RACF database - the 200 and 300 minidisks need to be fullpack minidisks. Cylinder 0 to END. (DEVNO disks are recommended) I'm not saying this is the cause of the problem you are seeing .. but RESERVE/RELEASE protection of the

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 01/18/2011 at 04:27 EST, Feller, Paul pfel...@aegonusa.com wrote: Thanks Alan, I forwarded your reply to my co-worker and he came back with some more comments/questions. I'm not sure what , if anything, he has heard from the support center. Since there's a PMR open, we don't

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 01/18/2011 at 04:50 EST, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: The MDISK statements prove that the RACF database minidisks are not fullpack, hence CP wil not let Reserve/release propagate to the HW, hence RACFs in multiple z/VM systems can both perform updates concurrently

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 01/18/2011 at 04:51 EST, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: The DASD is defined as shared - but if you're really sharing this RACF database - the 200 and 300 minidisks need to be fullpack minidisks. Cylinder 0 to END. (DEVNO disks are recommended) I'm not saying

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Scott Rohling
I second that emotion :-) SETROPTS SHAREDB(YES) or some such incantation... RACF could go into 'read only' mode if it finds things amiss. Scott Rohling On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: On Tuesday, 01/18/2011 at 04:51 EST, Scott Rohling

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Jim Bohnsack
What you're asking for used to be called DWIM (Do What I Mean). There was a package on the IBM internal tools disk 25 years ago or so called that. Never really had the guts to try it out. Jim On 1/18/2011 6:12 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 01/18/2011 at 04:51 EST, Scott Rohling

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Scott Rohling
As I recall - DWIM was a CMS based 'command corrector' .. it didn't do anything like check your system/DASD configuration - it would try and self correct finger checks to commands you entered. But I understand the correlation with *intent* in this case :-) Scott Rohling On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at

Re: RACF question

2011-01-18 Thread Feller, Paul
Thanks for the information, I will forward it on to my co-worker. I do know that the RACF databases are the only things on the volumes. The other MDISK statements are just to fill out the volumes so they don't show as having free space. I would say about 99% of all user updates to RACF (add