Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-27 Thread Kent E. Taylor
Bill, may I suggest trying to get a group rate for whatever motel that you decide on? You can then encourage everyone to stay there to increase their opportunities to interact with each other. When I went to my first few workshops I stayed in motels since GM was paying for it. In those

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-27 Thread Jonathan Quay
Two of the largest global hotel companies are VM customers (us and Marriott). I am going to try to attend. Check out the attached link for some of our lowest rates, about 25% less than lowest published. Only a small percentage of inventory is held for these rates, so hop on it, and beware, they

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-27 Thread Len Diegel
Registration information is at _www.vmwowrkshop.org_ (http://www.vmwowrkshop.org) We've been posting options of hotels on the site and researching other options each week. Regards, Len In a message dated 6/27/2011 1:16:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, email...@stny.rr.com writes:

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-27 Thread Bill Munson
Len, Kent had already registered and been to the web site numerous times. He is asking questions that we had not discussed in our conference calls with the Workshop Committee The questions and observations that everyone has made this weekend needs to be discussed and addressed. Thank you for

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-27 Thread Bill Munson
Kent, and yes that is the whole reason for the Workshop the interactive communication among the members munson From: Kent E. Taylor email...@stny.rr.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 06/27/2011 02:16 AM Subject:Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-27 Thread David Boyes
That is genuinely cool. Can we write your bosses a thank you letter? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Quay Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 7:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-27 Thread Bill Munson
I am a Priority Club member and use them all the time thanx munson 201-418-7588 From: Jonathan Quay jonathan.q...@ihg.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 06/27/2011 07:30 AM Subject:Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available Sent by:The IBM

Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-27 Thread Jonathan Quay
It is the least I can do to repay the VM community at large. I consider all of you my friends. The bosses want us to promote this program anyway, so no thanks are necessary. On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:06 AM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: That is genuinely cool. Can we write your

Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Huegel
I have a minidisk that LINUX uses. It is defined and formatted h use CDL format. The MDISK is 100 cylinders but I want to expand it to 200 cylinders. How can I write the proper format on cylinders 99 to 199? The only way I found was to create another mdisk with 200 cylinders and format it, then

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Thomas Kern
I always did it the old-fashioned way: 1) allocate a new 200 cyl minidisk 2) format it in linux 3) use linux tools to copy data from old to new 4) mount new instead of old 5) remove old from linux configuration /Tom Kern On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:35:46 -0700, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote :

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Huegel
Tom, Yea that would work too. It just seems so simple to be able to format a cylinder range (either in LINUX or CMS) ie FORMAT A10 4K cyl 100:199.. It would just write 4K blocks x'00's and be almost done with it. Then LINUX could expand the filesystem and away we go. At least it sounds simple.

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Thomas Kern
CPFMTXA can do that cylinder range formatting, but I don't know if Linux will then allow you to do the resize2fs to enlarge the filesystem control blocks. It would be worth a try on a TEST MINIDISK. /Tom Kern On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:28:49 -0700, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote : Tom, Yea

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Kris Buelens
You could use ICKDSF to format e.g. a 101 cylinder work MDISK, then use DDR to copy that work Mdisk from *cyl 1 to 101 reorder to 100* onto the extended Linux MDISK. Notes: - We do not copy cylinder 0 of that work mdisk: cylinder 0 contains not all 4K records - Beware: destroying the target Linux

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Jonathan Quay
I don't think you can do what you want to do because the linux partition table won't see the extra cylinders. Nothing jumps off the page on the s390tools site. I think you are stuck with defining a bigger minidisk and copying the data over. LVM's are easy to extend and that is what I use for

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Huegel
Maybe I left something out. Since this is CDL format there is a VTOC with an entry for the partition extent. I can use a free CMS program LXFMT to update that label without destroying any data. The gotcha is that I (LINUX) cannot use the additional DASD because it is not in a 4K format. Another

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Leland Lucius
A few years ago, I modified dasdfmt to allow specification of the start and end track for formatting. I was using LDL formatted volumes do I didn't have to worry about the VTOC. Usage: ./dasdfmt [-htvyLVFk] [-l volser | --label=volser] [-b blocksize |

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Huegel
Leland, Is your updated version generally available? Thanks Tom On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Leland Lucius lluc...@homerow.net wrote: A few years ago, I modified dasdfmt to allow specification of the start and end track for formatting. I was using LDL formatted volumes do I didn't have

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Leland Lucius lluc...@homerow.net wrote: A few years ago, I modified dasdfmt to allow specification of the start and end track for formatting.  I was using LDL formatted volumes do I didn't have to worry about the VTOC. A few more years ago, dasdfmt allowed

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Mark Post
On 6/27/2011 at 05:23 PM, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote: Another solution I thought of would be to define the mdisk to VSE (I suppose z/OS would work too) then I could use JCL to create a file appending the current LINUX partition and write a program (any language) to open the file,

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Huegel
There is always more than one way to get to the otherside of a mountain... I like to explore them all. On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: On 6/27/2011 at 05:23 PM, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote: Another solution I thought of would be to define the mdisk

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Leland Lucius
Here's my old patch for it. This was against 1.5.1, but shouldn't be too difficult to bring up to date. IOW, I longer use it... Leland On 6/27/11 5:17 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: Leland, Is your updated version generally available? Thanks Tom On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Leland Lucius

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-27 Thread Tom Huegel
Thanks Leland I appreciate it. On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Leland Lucius lluc...@homerow.net wrote: Here's my old patch for it. This was against 1.5.1, but shouldn't be too difficult to bring up to date. IOW, I longer use it... Leland On 6/27/11 5:17 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: Leland,