Thank you to all that replied. I guess I was wrong and it can be done. Bu
t
if done, it is done poorly.
I'll do some reseach on Bochs(?) and report to my management with what yo
u
said and what I found out.
thanks
Mace
You're welcome, Mace.
Information on Bochs can be found here:
http://bochs.sourceforge.net/
Let us know what your research reveals and how your management reacts.
DJ
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Larry_Macioce?= wrote:
Thank you to all that replied. I guess I was wrong and it can be done. But
if done,
On 8/10/06, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So the answer, in any practical terms, is no, you can't do that.
Unless the new POO has a Start Intel Execution instruction ;-p
Wrong is not a fair description. I can put my love spuds in the open mouth
of a lion and hit him on the head. If you said I couldn't you'd be wrong,
but it makes about as much sense as trying to run x86 apps on a zSeries.
-Original Message-
Thank you to all that replied. I guess I was
Of Neale Ferguson
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:49 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: A question about z/VM and windoze
Wrong is not a fair description. I can put my love spuds in the open
mouth
of a lion and hit him on the head. If you said I couldn't you'd be
wrong,
but it makes
On Aug 10, 2006, at 6:56 AM, Macioce, Larry wrote:
I take it as putting a Yugo engine in a Lambo. It will make the car
run
but not well.
More like putting a moped engine in a locomotive, really.
Adam
There is an Intel architecture available that will allow this, but you
really don't want to go that route. You'll be spending expensive CPU
time doing emulation.
Which apps are they talking about?
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Larry_Macioce?= wrote:
OK .. First. let me preface this with this is the
Argh! I meant 'Intel architecture emulator'. You still don't want do
this...
Rich Smrcina wrote:
There is an Intel architecture available that will allow this, but you
really don't want to go that route. You'll be spending expensive CPU
time doing emulation.
Which apps are they talking
: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:35 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: A question about z/VM and windoze
NO. Windows runs only on Intel architecture. zSeries is nothing like
Intel. That is, the hardware instructions are different. __Some__
Windows applications can run on Linux/Intel using software
Hi, Mace.
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Larry_Macioce?= wrote:
OK .. First. let me preface this with this is the smartest bunch I know on
the subject of VM. AND no I didn't take a class on how to kiss up.
Second.. I've looked into this once before and was told NO WAY..BUT
I've been given the task of finding
Each
virtual machine running a Intel processor emulator and a copy of
Windows
consumes approximately 180-220 zSeries MIPS to emulate a 200-210 Mhz
Pentium II-class CPU idling at the desktop. No applications, just
desktop.
More fun: as a last hurrah for our faithful MP3000-H70, I fired that
Hello
Dave Jones wrote:
The reason Windows runs on Apple Computers now is because, as I
understand the situation, Apple switched from using Power chips to
Intel
chips in their boxes.
yes this was announced I believe within the last two days.
Apple is now INTEL based. (meant to
They already have seen them. They monitor all e-mail.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:56 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: A question about z
On Aug 9, 2006, at 8:34 AM, McKown, John wrote:
Having said that, there is a x86 emulator called Bochs which can
run on
a zSeries. From what I understand somebody actually did this. It ended
up with something that ran like a 10Mhz Intel CPU. I.e. it was
slower
than molasses in winter and
On Aug 9, 2006, at 9:44 AM, David Boyes wrote:
It is *technically* possible to run unmodified Windows applications on
zSeries (photos on request). It is *prohibitively* resource-
intensive to
do so, and provides no consolidation or licensing benefits. Each
virtual machine running a Intel
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