Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-24 Thread Howard Rifkind
in the '70's and I loved it. To bad I missed that boat, I would have loved to have a crack at CICS/VM. Live and learn, I would like to be around 20,15, 50 years from now to see where z/VM and CICS is at. BTW, loved macro level CICS programming. --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-24 Thread Ward, Mike S
I ran Transaction Server on OS/2 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CICS and z/VM There was a CICS/VM in 1987. You can google cics/vm and learn

CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread Howard Rifkind
A friend of mine stated that CICS can run native under z/VM with z/OS being present.   I find this hard to believe and have never heard of this being done in any size, shape or form.   I think he is blowing wind.   Can anyone comment on this.  If there is any truth in this please advise

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread Rich Smrcina
CICS can run as a started task under z/OS or as a long running job under z/VSE. But there is no native implementation of CICS for VM (at least not any longer :( ) On 06/23/2010 05:43 PM, Howard Rifkind wrote: A friend of mine stated that CICS can run native under z/VM with z/OS being

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread Schuh, Richard
an IPL for CICS with an IPL of CICS. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CICS and z/VM A friend of mine

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Coffin
Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: CICS and z/VM A friend of mine stated that CICS can run native under z/VM with z/OS being present. I find this hard to believe and have never heard of this being done in any size, shape or form. I think he

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread Scott Rohling
? ;) z/VM can run a z/OS guest, which can run CICS.. there's no 'z/VM CICS' product. Scott Rohling On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Howard Rifkind vmes...@yahoo.com wrote: A friend of mine stated that CICS can run native under z/VM with z/OS being present. I find this hard to believe

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread Ron Schmiedge
There was. Announced in 1985 and EOS was Dec 31 1993. Program Product 5684-011. It's EOS date was listed in the Licensed Products Migration Matrix for z/VM 5.3 from 2005 on the IBM web site. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Howard Rifkind vmes...@yahoo.com wrote: A friend of mine stated that

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] CICS and z/VM I would ask him to explain 'with z/OS being present' - and then ask him to explain 'native' ;-) Maybe those words don't mean

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread Jeff Henry
I worked for a shop back in the day that ran a product from Unicorn, that was essentially a CICS emulator for VM. They had a few apps that they had ported over from real CICS. As I recall, the thing was a real pain to get working. It also had a VSAM replacement. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:43 PM,

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/23/2010 at 07:03 EDT, Ron Schmiedge ron.schmie...@gmail.com wrote: There was. Announced in 1985 and EOS was Dec 31 1993. Program Product 5684-011. Wow. Good ol' CICS/VM. I did some testing of CICS/VM R3, ca. 1989, which never saw the light of day. It was a pretty cool

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread David Boyes
On 6/23/10 6:51 PM, Rich Smrcina r...@velocitysoftware.com wrote: On 06/23/2010 05:43 PM, Howard Rifkind wrote: A friend of mine stated that CICS can run native under z/VM with z/OS being present. There was a CICS/VM about 20 years back that did not require a guest OS, however it was

Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] CICS and z/VM On Wednesday, 06/23/2010 at 07:03 EDT, Ron Schmiedge ron.schmie...@gmail.com wrote: There was. Announced