Cleaning Fluid

2006-07-21 Thread glen herrmannsfeldt
David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone still know of a source that sells 3420 cleaning fluid and supplies? In the process of working through these old tapes from Princeton, I'm burning through the small supply I have of the stuff rapidly (2 pints so far), and still have a few

Re: Cleaning Fluid

2006-07-21 Thread David Boyes
was able to locate a source for quart jugs of reel-to-reel cleaning fluid, which contains the flouroethyline additive (in addition to the alcohol). Apparently, radio and TV stations still buy the stuff in quantity w/o permits, and still use it for the pro-grade equipment. Are you warming the heads

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-21 Thread George Haddad
David Boyes wrote: If these are the ones that are five or six inches long with a swab on one end, Radio Shack used to carry them. No longer (at least not in DC). They claim they discontinued them when they stopped selling reel-to-reel tape. YMMV. -- db Might be worth

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-20 Thread Jim Bohnsack
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid? =20 I'll bet that you could find a retired CE to verify that. You could probably get an answer from IBM as well. Want me to send a note to our CE? Jim =20 At 02:10 PM 7/19/2006, you wrote: As far as I can recall, DB

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-20 Thread Leif Rundberget
The really good cleaning fluid, was issued by STK and a few other third party hardware vendors, was Freon based. But you cannot get it anymore, it has been banned because it damages the ozone layer. So your stuck with denatured alcohol now. Leif David Boyes wrote: Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:48

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I'll bet that you could find a retired CE to verify that. You could probably get an answer from IBM as well. Want me to send a note to our CE? Jim At 02:10 PM 7/19/2006, you wrote: As far as I can recall, DB, the cleaning fluid in the nice IBM pint cans, was nothing more than denatured

More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread David Boyes
Does anyone still know of a source that sells 3420 cleaning fluid and supplies? In the process of working through these old tapes from Princeton, Im burning through the small supply I have of the stuff rapidly (2 pints so far), and still have a few thousand tapes to go. The amount

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread pfa
To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid? Does anyone still know of a source that sells 3420 cleaning fluid and supplies? In the process of working through these old tapes from Princeton, Im burning through the small supply I have of the stuff

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread David Boyes
As far as I can recall, DB, the cleaning fluid in the nice IBM pint cans, was nothing more than denatured alcohol. IBM packaged it for those shops that had an all-blue mandate from management as far as IT equipment went:-) OK. Isopropyl alcohol is easy to come by. Thanks, too

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread David Boyes
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:30 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid? I'll bet that you could find a retired CE to verify that. You could probably

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Scott Ray
I have some old stuff from STK.. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid? Try tape head

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Wade
I plan to publish at least the tape maps of the few readable volumes in the whole mess (about 1 tape in 15 are actually readable so far). I doubt I'll be able to provide the content unless the IBM archivist tells me in writing that they really don't care about 30+ year old PUT tapes any

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:11 PM, David Boyes wrote: Are there any PUT tape with service for non-copyright software in there. COul they be released. I only as the VM/370R6 we have is at (I think) L620 but the latest tape we have is 616 There are service tapes for early releases of VM/370 in

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Lloyd Fuller
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:10:56 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: The stiff cotton swabs that you use to clean the head could be replaced, I think, by some soft cotton fabric on a medical tongue depressor. If these are the ones that are five or six inches long with a swab on one end, Radio Shack used to

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread David Boyes
If these are the ones that are five or six inches long with a swab on one end, Radio Shack used to carry them. No longer (at least not in DC). They claim they discontinued them when they stopped selling reel-to-reel tape. YMMV. -- db