Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-30 Thread Mike Walter
/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/29/2008 11:57 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DR refresh of active SFS A point about VMBACKUP, however, is that while we don't use it for DR, we do use

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-29 Thread Colin Allinson
Thanks for all the feedback on this. I was sort of hoping that the server might do some sort of integrity check on startup and tell me that there are 'n' corrupt files giving me the option of starting up without them - sort of like spool does. Unfortunately, from the feedback, it appears there

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/28/2008 at 11:05 EDT, Colin Allinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What has happened is that most SFS servers start OK but the most active one just dumps on startup. Is there any way to do a verification/clean process so that I can get it started with whatever is valid - or do

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-29 Thread Jim Bohnsack
A point about VMBACKUP, however, is that while we don't use it for DR, we do use it. One day I was looking thru the VMBACKUP logs of what got dumped and to my surprise, found that the VMBACKUP 1B0 disk, the catalog, doesn't get dumped by VMBACKUP. I always knew that it would be kind of a

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-29 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:57:26PM -0400,Jim Bohnsack Wrote: } A point about VMBACKUP, however, is that while we don't use it for DR, } we do use it. One day I was looking thru the VMBACKUP logs of what got } dumped and to my surprise, found that the VMBACKUP 1B0 disk, the } catalog, doesn't

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
Part of a DR procedure is running an exec that regenerates all SFS servers How long does yours take? Takes an annoyingly long time - nearly an hour - to regenerate an 90G filepool. If we didn't do disaster tests monthly, it wouldn't be so bad, but what the heck could it be doing for an hour?!

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Thomas Kern
When I started on our DR process, I just did full-volume dumps which included the SFS servers. At the DR site, things came up fine for about 5 DR exercises. Then SFS died. We had grown enough that the activity was re al during the full-volume backup. When I discussed possibilities with IBM, i t

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Schuh, Richard
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DR refresh of active SFS I have done a refresh of our DR system. To put this in context - it is the function that we need rather than any particular data. I did

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread David Boyes
If the di sk is not a normal SFS disk, then this is a first IPL at DR and the profile runs a FILESERV GENERATE. When that is finished, I can use the FILEPOOL RELOAD to load the content back into the SFS server. Hmm. FILEPOOL DUMP and FILEPOOL RELOAD are another set of CMS commands that need

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Of Colin Allinson Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DR refresh of active SFS I have done a refresh of our DR system. To put this in context - it is the function that we need rather than any particular data

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Thomas Kern
It would be nice to feed the unload into a pipe but at least it is standa rd OS simulation so I can point it at a disk file or a tape file. For the ta pe file, I have already proven that it can be encrypted to protect all the private dat in the backup. Because our CMS workload is shrinking, our

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] DR refresh of active SFS I have done a refresh of our DR system. To put

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Thomas Kern
On the one system where I do have an ATL and therefore RMSMASTR, I have a lso kept real data out of the VMS* filepools. They are quite small so it is e asy and quick to force RMSMASTR, do the FILEPOOL UNLOAD to CMS disk files an d bring RMSMASTR back up in order to mount the tapes for the largest

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
This would be so much easier if RMSMASTR's configuration files and logs were allowed to be on real CMS minidisks. Exactly! And there are plenty of VM newbies around here these days who shouldn't have to understand all the care and feeding of SFS in order to backup and restore their systems or

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Dave Jones
Well, since the SFS FILEPOOL commands require a FIELDEF of BACKUP be defined, one could use the CMS auxiliary processor exit to intercept the i/o from CMS and route that into a pipe.it's just a SMOP... David Boyes wrote: If the di sk is not a normal SFS disk, then this is a first

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Thomas Kern
I was thinking that the CMS AUXPROC facility would be a good place to ins ert a good data encryption product. /Tom Kern On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:26:21 -0500, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since the SFS FILEPOOL commands require a FIELDEF of BACKUP be defined, one could use the CMS

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] DR refresh of active SFS We also keep nothing but the DFSMS config files in the VMSYS filepool. The volume it's on is backed up

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DR refresh of active SFS If DFSMS uses the SFS for read/only activity. I would be tempted to give it its own small filepool and DDR DUMP it once

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Thomas Kern
And he wants to put his logs in VMSYSU:DFSMS.LOGS where the system administrator can delete them when the filepool fills up, instead of RMSMASTR doing something like managing its own rotation of logfiles in whatever preset size minidisk the system administrator defined for him, b ut that is

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:57 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DR refresh of active SFS And he wants to put his logs in VMSYSU:DFSMS.LOGS where

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
Is there not an installation option to change the filepool name? If not, there should be. If you are referring to the filepool and directory the RMS control and configuration files must reside on, yes you can move them by creating a UCOMDIR NAMES file on the RMSMASTR 191 minidisk, for example:

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Thomas Kern
Can you do the same for the filepool that RMSMASTR wants his work and log directories in? Like this: UCOMDIR NAMES :nick.VMSYS :tpn.IBMSFS :nick.VMSYSU :tpn.IBMSFS /Tom Kern On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:15:26 -0400, Les Geer (607-429-3580) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there not an

Re: DR refresh of active SFS

2008-03-28 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
Can you do the same for the filepool that RMSMASTR wants his work and log= directories in? Like this: UCOMDIR NAMES :nick.VMSYS :tpn.IBMSFS :nick.VMSYSU :tpn.IBMSFS You can change the location of the work directories by updating the RMSMASTR configuration file. No need for this UCOMDIR