Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-20 Thread RPN01
Follow-up and results: Expanding spool and page within an already CP-Owned disk does not seem to cause any issues. Everything survived the change. DCSSBKUP didn't work well for me, but it could have been the size of the virtual machine I ran it in. It also does not back up any of the other SDF

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 09/19/2007 at 05:32 EDT, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With more and more tapeless systems, something other than SPXTAPE is required. As more and more products are delivered electronically, and there is less need for tape other than backup, you'll see more systems without

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-20 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 01:07:06PM -0500,RPN01 Wrote: } Expanding spool and page within an already CP-Owned disk does not seem to } cause any issues. Everything survived the change. DCSSBKUP didn't work well } for me, but it could have been the size of the virtual machine I ran it in. The vm

Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread RPN01
I think I asked this once, but didnĀ¹t get an answer The 5.3 install allowed me to format page and spool as 3390 mod 9 devices (10017 cylinders). But in fact, I was using 3390 mod 27 disks (32760 cylinders). If I go into the devices with ICKDSF and change the remaining cylinders to PAGE and

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread Kim Goldenberg
RPN01 wrote: I think I asked this once, but didnt get an answer The 5.3 install allowed me to format page and spool as 3390 mod 9 devices (10017 cylinders). But in fact, I was using 3390 mod 27 disks (32760 cylinders). If I go into the devices with ICKDSF and change the remaining

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread RPN01
True... But I was hoping to get a Yes, this will work. or No this will fail. just so I know where I'm going On 9/19/07 1:36 PM, Kim Goldenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RPN01 wrote: I think I asked this once, but didnt get an answer The 5.3 install allowed me to format page and

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread Tom Duerbusch
The thing I would be concerned about, is changing the order of the CPOWNED volumes. In this case, you are not. But, is there some requirement of keeping the spool volumes in the same order? In other words, if PACK03 will now contain spool files, what would happen if the cpowned list shows:

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread RPN01
In this case, we're not adding a spool volume; just re-allocating space on an existing one. In practice in the other case, I've always added spool volumes to the end of the list. It may be ok in a Reserved slot already in the list. And, never under any circumstances remove a volume from the

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread Mike Walter
Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool True... But I was hoping to get a Yes, this will work. or No this will fail. just so I know where I'm going On 9/19/07 1:36 PM, Kim Goldenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I can't really address Robert Nix's question. I'd be leery of trying it without doing a SPXTAPE dump, however. The question that Tom raised however referring to changing the order in the CP owned list of a spool volume cannot be done without dumping and reloading the spool. This is because

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread Marty Zimelis
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:59 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool The question I was trying to bring up, as modified by your comments: Spool files are addressed as volume_number, cyl

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread Tom Duerbusch
The question I was trying to bring up, as modified by your comments: Spool files are addressed as volume_number, cyl, track, record. Is the volume_number always the cpowned number, or is it based on type, in this case spool type? Since we haven't come up with a definitive answer, and I guess

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread RPN01
With more and more tapeless systems, something other than SPXTAPE is required. As more and more products are delivered electronically, and there is less need for tape other than backup, you'll see more systems without access to a tape drive. Only one of my two z/VM systems has access to tape at

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread Thomas Kern
I have a SVM that uses DCSSBKUP to backup to disk files all of the DCSSes. What I cannot backup this way are the CMS and GCS NSSes. CMS can be resaved by IPLing 190 with the savesys option after doing a defsys command. GCS needs to have the nucleus card deck punched to a virtual rdr and then