Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-07 Thread Ward, Mike S
What does everyone without tape do for Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Wheeler Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Date: Wed, 6

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-07 Thread Bill Munson
Mirrored DASD Bill Munson Sr. z/VM Systems Programmer Brown Brothers Harriman CO. 525 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 201-418-7588 From: Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 10/07/2010 12:44 PM Subject:Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Sent

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-07 Thread McKown, John
of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 11:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues What

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-07 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Cool ! ! ! McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/07/2010 12:51 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Some do remote

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Kris Buelens
. -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On Behalf Of *George Henke/NYLIC *Sent:* Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:28 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* IPL VM/VM Issues L2 is a cloned L1 directory except for the volsers in the Directory

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2010 04:29 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues As others have pointed out, your L2 guest can't hurt your L1 system or other

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Brian Nielsen
SPXTAPE only supports tape. You could use DCSSBKUP and DCSSRSAV for some of the SDF's, but not all. There are past discussions in the archives that discuss the general issue. There are references to pipes and/or 3rd party products that may also help. Brian Nielsen On Wed, 6 Oct 2010

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread RPN01
I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no longer even have tape drives to use to create these tape backups. We no longer have any tape drives, real or virtual, attached to the systems, so

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2010 04:29 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues As others have pointed out, your L2 guest can't hurt your L1 system or other

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
I don't want to come across as bragging, but there is the SFB spool file backup/restore utility available now. It's: 1) free 2) backs up and restores SDF file to/from CMS files 3) can handle NSS as well as DCSS, IMG, RDR/PRT/PUN, NLS, SDFs 4) For RDR/PRT/PUN files, it groups all the UR spool files

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
tyvm, Dave. This is just what I need. Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/06/2010 12:03 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

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2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
-software.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/06/2010 12:03 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues I don't want to come across as bragging

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:42:53 -0500 From: nix.rob...@mayo.edu Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no longer even have

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:43 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/06/2010 at 12:56 EDT, Mark Wheeler mwheele...@hotmail.com wrote: I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no longer even have tape drives to use to create these tape

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues On Wednesday, 10/06/2010 at 12:56 EDT, Mark Wheeler mwheele...@hotmail.com wrote: I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has tools to back up to tape, and many sites no longer even have

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/06/2010 at 02:50 EDT, Quay, Jonathan (IHG) jonathan.q...@ihg.com wrote: Is VSSI an IBM business partner? They already have a virtual tape on minidisk product. There are others I'm sure. VSSI is an ISV. IBM Business Partners are people who sell you IBM-branded solutions.

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues George, have a go at it and let me know what you thinkand please pay close attention to the restrictions and limitations mentioned in the doc file. Have a good one. On 10/06/2010 11:05 AM, George Henke/NYLIC

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues George, have a go at it and let me know what you thinkand please pay close attention to the restrictions and limitations mentioned in the doc file. Have a good one. On 10/06/2010 11:05 AM

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Jones
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:43 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed. This is a critical set of files, which z/VM only has

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
And, the VSE side of IBM already has most of the code writtenVSE/VTAPE. The IP flavor, should work under VM with only minor changes. The VSAM flavor, well since the VM side sun setted VSE/VSAM, and a CMS minidisk is limited to the size of a pack, there might be a lot more work in

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wheeler
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 14:34:03 -0500 From: d...@vsoft-software.com Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Frank, while I think having a simple virtual tape server for CNMS is a good idea, it wouldn't solve our problems with SPXTAPE; it does not use the normal CMS tape

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues George, have a go at it and let me know what you thinkand please pay close attention to the restrictions and limitations mentioned in the doc file. Have a good one. On 10/06

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Pace
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/06/2010 03:23 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues George, VMARC files should be uploaded to VM binary mode, recfm F, lrecl 80. To unpack the VMARC file, you'll

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-06 Thread David Boyes
to a TCP socket. Or just deal with a 2nd level system that has no tape. -- db On 10/6/10 12:56 PM, Mark Wheeler mwheele...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:42:53 -0500 From: nix.rob...@mayo.edu Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I think this is an issue

IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
L2 is a cloned L1 directory except for the volsers in the Directory and CF Parm files which have all been made unique, ie 540 becoming 54X. I plan to ipl as follows: system reset term conmode 3270 set mach esa I 125b clear loadparm 009 START COLD DRAIN To be safe, I suppose I should also add

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Mark Pace
As long as your L2 system doesn't have the disks attached for your z/OS and Linux guests, they will fail to start, so no issues with corruption. However I would probably use NOAUTOLOG just to be safe. TCPIP will need to be changed, at least the IP address, before starting it up. Defining GRAF

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Walter
z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2010 02:28 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject IPL VM/VM Issues L2 is a cloned L1 directory except for the volsers in the Directory and CF Parm files which

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IPL VM/VM Issues L2 is a cloned L1 directory except for the volsers in the Directory and CF Parm files which have all been made unique, ie 540 becoming 54X. I plan to ipl as follows: system

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Bill Munson
://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ VM Project Officer - SHARE http://www.linkedin.com/in/BillMunson From: Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 10/05/2010 03:41 PM Subject:Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Walter
System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2010 02:50 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues George and (Mike) Do not forget the even closer VM user group meetings like MVMUA here in Jersey City

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Brian Nielsen
As others have pointed out, your L2 guest can't hurt your L1 system or other guests unless L2 has access to those disks. Stating it from a different angle - you should never give your L2 guest access to anything you don't want it to have access to. It's no different than keeping your z/OS

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
) MyLevel=Length(D00Data)/40 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 3:29 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Walter
z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2010 03:39 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues To determine if you are running under 1st level VM or another level, us this in your PROFILE

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
mike.wal...@hewitt.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2010 05:17 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Shorter still: ?l2=length(diag(00))40 /* We're

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Trying to IPL 2d Level but getting the following: 17:34:24 z/VM V5 R4.0 SERVICE LEVEL 0802 (64-BIT) 17:34:24 SYSTEM NUCLEUS CREATED ON 2008-11-28 AT 19:22:25, LOADED FROM 54XRES 17:34:24 17:34:24

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Walter
...@newyorklife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2010 04:39 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Trying to IPL 2d Level but getting the following: 17:34

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread Michael Coffin
, 2010 5:40 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Trying to IPL 2d Level but getting the following: 17:34:24 z/VM V5 R4.0 SERVICE LEVEL 0802 (64-BIT) 17:34:24 SYSTEM NUCLEUS CREATED ON 2008-11-28 AT 19:22:25, LOADED FROM 54XRES 17:34:24 17

Re: IPL VM/VM Issues

2010-10-05 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
, October 05, 2010 5:40 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IPL VM/VM Issues Trying to IPL 2d Level but getting the following: 17:34:24 z/VM V5 R4.0 SERVICE LEVEL 0802 (64-BIT) 17:34:24 SYSTEM NUCLEUS CREATED ON 2008-11-28 AT 19:22:25, LOADED FROM 54XRES