Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-30 Thread Kris Buelens
Schuh -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Mike Walter *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:30 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: OPERATOR Consoles Yep, again. See Chapter 10. Mike Walter

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-30 Thread Huegel, Thomas
That would be a nice addition to the DOWNLOAD page. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:48 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OPERATOR Consoles My customer has 18 VM systems

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-30 Thread Schuh, Richard
: OPERATOR Consoles My customer has 18 VM systems... A problem with managing many VM systems is that operators need to see that there is a problem. Problems can go away automatically too (e.g. a queue on a RSCS link). We had a central VM:OPER console where problems got listed as HOLDMSG

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-30 Thread Jim Bohnsack
A poor man's alternative to VM:Operator, probably for a smaller number of systems and with lesser capabilities, would be the Programmable Operator facility that comes with VM. I don't want to start an argument here. I know that VM:Operator would do a great job but if you are only talking

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-30 Thread Schuh, Richard
will be made. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OPERATOR Consoles A poor man's alternative to VM:Operator

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-30 Thread Kris Buelens
Buelens *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:48 PM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: OPERATOR Consoles My customer has 18 VM systems... A problem with managing many VM systems is that operators need to see that there is a problem. Problems can go away automatically too (e.g. a queue

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-30 Thread Schuh, Richard
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OPERATOR Consoles It's not a product, it is named VMSTAT. 2007/8/30, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That sounds nice. What is the name of your product? :-) Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-30 Thread Kris Buelens
-- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kris Buelens *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:45 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: OPERATOR Consoles It's not a product, it is named VMSTAT. 2007/8/30, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED

OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
In the not too distant future, we will possibly have VM systems scattered almost as widely as we have datacenters. What products are available that would allow the operations of these systems to be handled from a single location, if such exist? For example, can VM:Operator be used across a span of

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-29 Thread Bob Bates
. _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: OPERATOR Consoles In the not too distant future, we will possibly have VM systems scattered almost as widely

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-29 Thread Mike Walter
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject OPERATOR Consoles In the not too distant future, we will possibly have VM systems scattered almost as widely as we have datacenters. What products are available that would allow the operations of these systems to be handled from a single

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OPERATOR Consoles Sure. If you can logon to the system, VM:Operator can have a console there. The OPERATOR id can be anywhere. Authorized users can be defined to logon and run VMYIAMOP to get a copy of the console. The definition of the user within VM:Operator says what screens

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-29 Thread Mike Walter
Yep, again. See Chapter 10. Mike Walter - Original Message - From: Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/29/2007 04:30 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OPERATOR Consoles I was thinking more along the lines of operating all systems from one terminal. Regards

Re: OPERATOR Consoles

2007-08-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
Subject: Re: OPERATOR Consoles Yep, again. See Chapter 10. Mike Walter - Original Message - From: Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/29/2007 04:30 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OPERATOR Consoles I was thinking more

Re: Multiple Logical Operator Consoles... how?

2007-07-24 Thread Fred Schmidt
Thanks for all the responses. Apologies for my tardiness in responding... been too busy checking out all the suggestions! Eginhard Jaeger wrote: - Nothing should prevent you from entering the same PROCESS definition multiple times, and have it processed multiple times. Another possibility

Re: Multiple Logical Operator Consoles... how?

2007-07-19 Thread Eginhard Jaeger
... With the Performance Toolkit, the last match in FCONX $PROFILE is used when processing messages, so again, there is no possibility of multiple entries for the same message. ... PerfKit's logic should be different: - 'FC PROCESS' definitions made for a specific output line type should

Re: Multiple Logical Operator Consoles... how?

2007-07-19 Thread Jeff Gribbin, EDS
Hello Fred, I hope that you (eventually) find this useful, but I'm going to unhelpfully start by suggesting that you take a step back and delete from your mind the idea that VM has a, console. The VM paradigm is fundamentally different to the OS paradigm - in VM, an y appropriately privileged

Re: Multiple Logical Operator Consoles... how?

2007-07-19 Thread Rick Barlow
Back in the mid-1990s, I wrote some EXECs to extend the capability of PROP to allow multiple logical operators to interact with a single PROP. My colleague Jim Vincent includes this information in his SHARE session entitled Automated Linux Guest Monitoring on z/VM using PROP (Session 9136) in

Re: Multiple Logical Operator Consoles... how?

2007-07-19 Thread Imholte, John (Cincinnati, OH)
Fred, I have come up a set of REXX programs that with the help of PIPESERV maintain a console log that can be redisplayed as in VSE. The REXX EXEC that displays the log files also allows for the sending of commands to the OPERATOR machine. This all uses the security that is built into

Re: Multiple Logical Operator Consoles... how?

2007-07-19 Thread David Boyes
If what you're trying to do is have multiple terminals displaying the operator console (and you have PERFKIT), try using the APPC interface and the FCONAPPC exec from another userid and run PERFKIT with no monitoring active in the OPERATOR userid. That should let you go into basic mode in PERFKIT,

Multiple Logical Operator Consoles... how?

2007-07-18 Thread Fred Schmidt
Hi folks, How do you set up multiple consoles in z/VM? I've got PROP implemented and use the Performance Toolkit to manage the console display of the Logical Operator. This works well... I just want more of them! In trolling the IBMVM archives, I've seen several references to setting up