Re: Goodbye, Farewell and Amen

2010-07-01 Thread Dave Wade
- Original Message - From: Tom Huegel To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:49 AM Subject: Re: Goodbye, Farewell and Amen My 2 centsTwo previous employers dropped the mainframe for SAP one on HP UNIX the other laughably on WINDOZE servers. The HP conversion

Re: Goodbye, Farewell and Amen

2010-07-01 Thread Rich Smrcina
What I didn't mention in my original message was that the initial part of the SAP implementation was considered ontime and on budget. The plant that was using it was consistently profitable, whereas the others (on the 'mainframe') were generally unprofitable. Unfortunately, rolling out SAP

Re: Goodbye, Farewell and Amen

2010-06-30 Thread Hans Rempel
Sorry to hear that Rich. Many years ago I was supporting Toronto District School Board. They converted to a SAP solution. It hurt me inside but it was no were near the financial hurt TDSB felt. Ops. My mother said if you have nothing nice to say donèt say anything. I guess I said to much. Hans

Re: Goodbye, Farewell and Amen

2010-06-30 Thread Edward M Martin
Hello Rich, I am always amazed at the cost of SAP and salaries commanded by SAP programmers. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-363-5050 ext 35050 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Goodbye, Farewell and Amen

2010-06-30 Thread Rich Smrcina
I was involved last year with a large SAP implementation in the NYC area. When done right, it can be a good thing. But yes, it does take a fair number of people and a good deal of planning. The System z deployment is saving them (the NYC company) a boatload of money, though. Their SAP

Re: Goodbye, Farewell and Amen

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Huegel
My 2 centsTwo previous employers dropped the mainframe for SAP one on HP UNIX the other laughably on WINDOZE servers. The HP conversion was budgeted at $10 mil .. a few years and $50 mil later the company went bankrupt. Company 2 managed a sucessful conversion but now they spend all of their