That grinding noise in the background? That's the sound of your
moderator, observed in a poorly-suppressed fit of bruxism induced by
choking back one of those "harrumphing" noises. Allow me to suggest
that we defer further discussion of the off-topic aspects of this thread
until, oh... some
Gee, this thread really should be on IBM-MAIN. Talk about off topic; )
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On Jul 7, 2011 8:39 AM, "RPN01" wrote:
Sports Illustrated says the world is ending December 31st, 2011. At least
that's when their calendar ends.
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Robert P
Sports Illustrated says the world is ending December 31st, 2011. At least
that's when their calendar ends.
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ekers
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:57 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service
- 12/31/2012
Or maybe they just thought that's all the calendar anyone would ever need, like
640K on a PC and 16MB on a mainframe?
Frank M.
741-5777
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Rich Greenberg
Sent: Wed 7/6/2011 4:45 PM
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Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Service
- 12/31/2012
On: Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 04:30:59PM -0500,Mike Wal
> > However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model.
>
> Right, sure. It hasn't had a chance to be wrong... yet. Somewhere (the
> 'net?) I happened across an article by a well-respected researcher, stating
> that the Mayan calendar continues on just fine. We'll see... maybe the
> Mayan guy's
> As I mentioned back in 2009 (what? you don't remember?), CMS still
> supports the "Alternate VSAM Emulator" added in 1985. It was specifically
> invented to enable Something Else to get control when VSAM macros were
> used. SQL/DS exploited it back in the day, if memory serves, but I don't
> k
VSE/VSAM has had a lot of enhancements over the last few years. It was
getting to be a maintenance headache to also keep VM/VSAM compatible
with VSE/VSAM. Also, VM/VSAM was part of VSE/VSAM so those customers
using it that also had VSE did not have to pay anything. The ROI was not
good for all
: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:46 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of
Service - 12/31/2012
On: Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 04:30:59PM -0500,Mike Walter Wrote:
} > However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model.
}
} Right, sure. It has
On: Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 04:30:59PM -0500,Mike Walter Wrote:
} > However, the Mayan calendar may be a better model.
}
} Right, sure. It hasn't had a chance to be wrong... yet. Somewhere (the
'net?) I happened across an article by a well-respected researcher, stating
that the Mayan calendar co
ine alone, not my employer's.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf
Of Edward M Martin
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:16 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of Servic
CICS/VM .. I had almost forgotten about that beast. Back in the day my boss
thought he could get rid of VSE and run CICS/VM only... It was quite comical
at the time, because the IBM sales staff had not even heard of CICS/VM ..
although they were happy to sell it to us... Needless to say, it never m
On Wednesday, 07/06/2011 at 04:59 EDT, David Boyes
wrote:
> > Don't know if you all saw this.
> > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM
> > product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh.
>
> Figures. That VSAM thing is the killer prereq -- everything that started
life
>
alf Of Tom Huegel
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:14 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement
Other than to say 'it was a buisness decision' has IBM ever actually
said why they killed VM-VSE/VSAM??
What the heck, it still works in V
More fallout from that very strange decision to kill VSAM. :-(
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote:
> Don't know if you all saw this.
> I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM product.
> Instead, they killed it. Sigh.
>
>
>
>
> ---
, Richard
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:11 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM Announcement - End of
Service - 12/31/2012
Yeah, then there was that other nut-case who predicted EoW for May 21 of
this year. He didn't admit that he had made a mi
Other than to say 'it was a buisness decision' has IBM ever actually said
why they killed VM-VSE/VSAM??
What the heck, it still works in VSE ..
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, David Boyes wrote:
> > Don't know if you all saw this.
> > I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance th
> Don't know if you all saw this.
> I was hoping that when IBM bought them, they might enhance the VM
> product. Instead, they killed it. Sigh.
Figures. That VSAM thing is the killer prereq -- everything that started life
on MVS requires it as a prereq, and thus is doomed to destruction. Conven
M Operating System
> [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger Hawkinson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:50 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/VM
> Announcement - End of Service - 12/31/2012
>
> It won't matte
It won't matter, Marcy.
EoW (End of World) set to end on Dec. 21, 2012.
CR reviewed/approved for that event.
Roger
Operating Systems Engineer, z/VM and Linux on IBM System z
Enterprise Hosting Services, Mainframe/Midrange Services
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