Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-04 Thread John Franciscovich
>Have you issued Q RECORDING to check for a massive amount of >EREP/ACCOUNTING records that are not written to disk by EREP/DISKACNT? > These records are written to checkpoint or warm start (I don't >remember to which one). These are written to the checkpoint area during shutdown, and are a likely

Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-04 Thread Kris Buelens
Have you issued Q RECORDING to check for a massive amount of EREP/ACCOUNTING records that are not written to disk by EREP/DISKACNT? These records are written to checkpoint or warm start (I don't remember to which one). 2009/5/2 Rich Greenberg : > On: Fri, May 01, 2009 at 09:02:33PM -0500,Marcy Co

Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-02 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Fri, May 01, 2009 at 09:02:33PM -0500,Marcy Cortes Wrote: } >I think John has the answer. How big are your checkpoint and warm start areas? } } 9 cyl. As big as it gets. That SHOULD be big enough, so keep looking. O well. Its been a while since I allocated a ckpt or warm area. Is

Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-01 Thread Mike Walter
board on a Blackberry.) - Original Message - From: "Marcy Cortes" [marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com] Sent: 05/01/2009 09:02 PM EST To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Shutdown REIPL >I think John has the answer. How big are your checkpoint and warm start areas? 9 cyl. As

Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
>I think John has the answer. How big are your checkpoint and warm start areas? 9 cyl. As big as it gets. Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, discl

Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-01 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Fri, May 01, 2009 at 04:36:47PM -0500,Marcy Cortes Wrote: } Operations made me curious today. } The said sometimes when we do our SHUTDOWN REIPL thing on the disaster test systems, they have to enter FORCE. } Auto_Warm_IPL is on. } Does it do that because of a new CPLOAD module? } This is

Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-01 Thread John Franciscovich
>Nope, it was me doing the shutdown reipl and no ucb on it. >Could a duplicate volume message cause it? (not cpowned). > > >12:12:10 HCPWRM904E System recovery failure; incorrect warm start data. This means that some of the system information that is saved in the checkpoint (most

Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of James Stracka (DHL US) Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Shutdown REIPL The only two times that I remember a S

Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-01 Thread James Stracka (DHL US)
The only two times that I remember a SHUTDOWN REIPL failing are when changing IPL volumes or someone deactivated the LPAR before the SHUTDOWN completed with the WARM START DATA saved message. I know, "Why would someone deactivate an LPAR if they issued a SHUTDOWN REIPL?" I dunno

Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
Nope, it was me doing the shutdown reipl and no ucb on it. Could a duplicate volume message cause it? (not cpowned). Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use,

Re: Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-01 Thread James Stracka (DHL US)
Having done lots of SHUTDOWN REIPL with a new CPLOAD MODULE, I highly doubt that is the cause. Are you sure they are not doing: SHUTDOWN RIPL ucb I have seen this on some CNR tests because you are IPLing using a different volume where the checkpoint area is on a different area of the volume

Shutdown REIPL

2009-05-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
Operations made me curious today. The said sometimes when we do our SHUTDOWN REIPL thing on the disaster test systems, they have to enter FORCE. Auto_Warm_IPL is on. Does it do that because of a new CPLOAD module? This is the only relevant message: 12:12:10 HCPWRM904E System recovery failure

Re: SHUTDOWN REIPL

2009-03-20 Thread Schuh, Richard
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SHUTDOWN REIPL Yes, Dennis pointed the error of my post last night

Re: SHUTDOWN REIPL

2009-03-20 Thread Mike Walter
" 03/20/2009 10:45 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: SHUTDOWN REIPL Please note the excerpt from your post included below, particularly the part about CP bounce processing. Regards, Richard Schuh >

Re: SHUTDOWN REIPL

2009-03-20 Thread Schuh, Richard
Please note the excerpt from your post included below, particularly the part about CP bounce processing. Regards, Richard Schuh > > The PROMPT parameter is only valid for the SAPL screen. > This parameter is not acknowledged during CP bounce > processing (SHUTDOWN REIPL o

Re: SHUTDOWN REIPL

2009-03-20 Thread Schuh, Richard
Of Marcy Cortes > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:39 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: SHUTDOWN REIPL > > Do you have a "local" address for yourself via OSA-ICC,9074, > or something else? > > We have been known to deal with the long distance and

Re: SHUTDOWN REIPL

2009-03-19 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Mike, Your suggestion won't work. You included the reason in the text that you quoted from the manual: The PROMPT parameter is only valid for the SAPL screen. This parameter is not acknowledged during CP bounce processing (SHUTDOWN REIPL or restarting after an abend). SHUTDOWN

Re: SHUTDOWN REIPL

2009-03-19 Thread Mike Walter
tory entry for OPERATOR).[P.S. 'TERMINAL MORE 0 0 HOLD OFF' prevents Operators from seeing any error messages - as if they'd pay any attention anyway. But you've been warned]. But on some occasions, you want the AUTO_IPL_WARM skipped? If so, when they enter; SHUTD

Re: SHUTDOWN REIPL

2009-03-19 Thread Marcy Cortes
Do you have a "local" address for yourself via OSA-ICC,9074, or something else? We have been known to deal with the long distance and busy ops this way: "shutdown reipl iplparms cons=0315"where 315 is my "local" session and then once you get the sapl screen

SHUTDOWN REIPL

2009-03-19 Thread Schuh, Richard
Is there any way short of updating SYSTEM CONFIG and reordering the page volumes to coax SHUTDOWN REIPL to not automatically perform a warm start. Having to involve operators who are 3000 miles away, and normally very busy, in the process is sometimes difficult (paperwork) and time consuming