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On 11/23/2010 at 10:19 AM, George Henke/NYLIC
That is an assumption or opinion, not necessarily a fact. For example, my wife
may not know the operating system line mode commands, but she certainly knows
the accounting systems that she uses via a GUI interface. In fact, the GUI
represents an increase in productivity.
I would suggest that
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That is an assumption or opinion, not necessarily a fact. For example, my wife
may not know the operating system line mode commands, but she certainly knows
the accounting systems that she uses via a GUI interface. In fact, the GUI
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That is an assumption or opinion, not necessarily a fact. For example, my wife may not know the operating system line mode commands, but she certainly knows the accounting systems that she uses via a GUI
.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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, 2010 12:54 PM
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That is an assumption or opinion, not necessarily a fact. For
example, my wife may not know the operating system line mode
commands, but she certainly knows the accounting systems
On 11/24/2010 at 04:50 PM, William D Carroll
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My Original Comment on this whole thing was the a 3270 Emulator really is not
a GUI. It is a text based implementation on a GUI desktop, that does not
make it a GUI, your still typing commands.
Of course
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On 11/24/2010 at 04:50 PM, William D Carroll
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My Original Comment on this whole thing was the a 3270 Emulator really is not
a GUI. It is a text based implementation
Perceptive choice of words, prepared to admit.
The GUI is another terrific bit of work by the Endicott team that we turned
our noses up at. It uses the same agent as ... shoot ... ISPF, I think. So
the last time I ran it (on 5.4, within the past year) I had to steal an
agent from one of the MVS
Hi, Jeff.
Yes, the VM GUI facility still exists.
On 11/23/2010 06:54 AM, Jeff Gribbin wrote:
Greetings folks,
Some recent discussion brought to mind the old CMS GUI Facility that shipped
with VM/ESA 2.1 - and now I'm in a position where I might for the first time
actually be able to
.
Jeff Gribbin jeff.grib...@gmail.com
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Greetings folks
The VM/CMS GUI was interesting in it's day as an end user tool. Today, user interface
technology is far beyond what it could ever have dreamed of. Also, the interaction
available with the system (z/VM) has grown up many fold. Systems Programmers can choose
to use a GUI or the green screen,
Anybody using it?
Sort of.
Anybody prepared to admit they're using it?
Kris Bulens is the master dude of CMS GUI stuff. Dave Jones and I did some
stuff with it a few years back and there are some cool example bits on the VM
Download Library, but the clients have all but disappeared, the
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Greetings folks,
Some recent discussion brought to mind the old CMS GUI Facility that ship
ped
with VM
Regards,
Richard Schuh
Advanced sysprogs may or may not appreciate this, but novices
will certainly benefit from such advances in these user interfaces.
As can those who are keyboard challenged, regardless of their experience level.
On 11/23/2010 at 10:19 AM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com
wrote:
Please tell ur laughing friends that GUI, *point and click*, is for people
who can't type.
If you really believe that, then I would like to hear your reaction after
giving up your 3270 emulator and doing all
He said he liked typing, not killing trees...
--
Bob Nix
On 11/23/10 1:30 PM, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote:
On 11/23/2010 at 10:19 AM, George Henke/NYLIC
george_he...@newyorklife.com
wrote:
Please tell ur laughing friends that GUI, *point and click*, is for people
who can't type.
it so Shakespeare
RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu
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Greetings folks,
Some recent discussion brought to mind the old
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Greetings folks,
Some recent discussion brought to mind the old CMS GUI Facility that
shipped
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