Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-17 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Gary, You can *ask* about best practice, but in this case no one can say what's universally best, not to mention what's best for you. I still think you got some answers and a few examples of what people are doing. It depends on what events do you want to protect yourself against, how quickly do

Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-16 Thread Mike Walter
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 12/15/2009 06:49 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM Best Practices Mike, I didn't mean to be smart, sorry if it came out that way. I just wanted to stress that everything you need to perform a DR

Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-16 Thread Mike Walter
Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 12/16/2009 01:39 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM Best Practices Mirroring does not replace good backup tapes: an accidental ERASE or FORMAT

Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-16 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Mirroring does not replace good backup tapes: an accidental ERASE or FORMAT is mirrored perfectly well to your DR site. Yes. Mirroring does not make any tape backups redundant, but they do drop to plan B in case of disaster. They remain plan A if you lose a file or a disk and even then

Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-16 Thread Gary M. Dennis
In the movie In Search of the Holy Grail, the knights who say nee could not bear to hear a certain words. One of those words was it. It appears that best practice may be not to ask about - (words redacted). Thanks to all who responded. --. .- .-. -.-- Gary Dennis Mantissa

Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-15 Thread Ivica Brodaric
Mike, I didn't mean to be smart, sorry if it came out that way. I just wanted to stress that everything you need to perform a DR, including hardcopy reports, utility tapes, DR procedure manual, CD's with software manuals, etc. has to be on a DR site or in the off-site storage, that's all. Of

Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-15 Thread Kris Buelens
Mirroring does not replace good backup tapes: an accidental ERASE or FORMAT is mirrored perfectly well to your DR site. Secondly: if you simply have a two copy mirror, performing DR tests means you break the mirroring during the test and at that time you no longer have a mirror. 2009/12/16 Ivica

VM Best Practices

2009-12-14 Thread Gary M. Dennis
Watching ³A Christmas Story² makes me wonder if you can ³shoot your eye out² through errors of omission with a VM system. Can anyone point me to a source for z/VM ³Best Practices² that addresses low level system recovery (essentially disaster recovery). Thanks Gary Dennis Mantissa

Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-14 Thread Alan Altmark
, but they are obedient. Note that they do occassionally leave a mess on the floor, so you can't leave them unattended! There is a phrase: Our gun, your foot. Keep your finger off the trigger. Can anyone point me to a source for z/VM ?Best Practices? that addresses low level system recovery (essentially

Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-14 Thread Mike Walter
Walter Hewitt Associates Gary M. Dennis gary.den...@mantissa.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 12/14/2009 01:43 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject VM Best Practices Watching

Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-14 Thread Mike Walter
to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: VM Best Practices 2) Keep automatically produced daily reports to minidisk, printed to hardcopy at least weekly, showing: a) the current location of critical minidisks. The list should

Re: VM Best Practices

2009-12-14 Thread Dave Wade
G4UGM -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: 14 December 2009 22:34 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Best Practices On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:09:11 -0500, Alan Altmark alan_altm