Ward, Mike S wrote:
Hello, all. I have a question. It seems that we are looking into a
virtualized desktop environment (Single Image) on our distributed side.
I kind of laugh at this because that's where we came from with VM and an
OS running under VM (Green Screen) long ago and now it's making
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Stephen Frazier
Sent: 29 May 2009 21:25
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Subject: Re: Virtualized Desktop
Ward, Mike S wrote:
Hello, all. I have a question. It seems that we
(In the following comments, I use the term thin client in lose terms, it
can either be a true thin client or a pc that boots from the network,
PXE, TFTP and all that stuff).
I'm a little confused by this virtualized desktop thread. To me, it
sounds like LTSP or the pregen'd system K12LTSP. I've
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
Since SLED is an Enterprise Desktop, does that mean you would have to
have one SLED for every user under VM?
My approach would be indeed to run just one desktop per virtual
machine, instead of what Matthew suggested with all
connected to an opsys running under VM, at least the old releases
it became a problem.
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On 5/14/2009 at 9:50 AM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
All, do linux users use a mouse. I would
think that mouse tracking would be a nightmare in the VM environment.
Bear, woods. It's not just z/VM, it's also network latency. When I test the X
apps I build as part of Slack/390, it
: Virtualized Desktop
On 5/14/2009 at 9:50 AM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
All, do linux users use a mouse. I would
think that mouse tracking would be a nightmare in the VM environment.
Bear, woods. It's not just z/VM, it's also network latency. When I
test the X apps I build as part
, at least the old releases
it became a problem.
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Subject: Re: Virtualized Desktop
On Wed, May 13, 2009
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Ward, Mike S
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:44 PM
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Are you saying that you can't use a mouse on linux under VM? Or you can
but the performance is bad
On 5/14/2009 at 1:44 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
Are you saying that you can't use a mouse on linux under VM? Or you can
but the performance is bad?
You can use a mouse. If you're using one of the Linux desktop environments,
you almost have to use one. Performance can range
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Matthew Donald
matthew.b.don...@gmail.com wrote:
What would you estimate the cpu/memory requirements for 1000 desktop users?
I have never measured. An important factor would be what's on the
user side. When you have a proper X-server there then a lot is done on
Guys,
You have a idea if the LTSP not fall in this project?
Is a good choice.
http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=lennyarch=s390searchon=nameskeywords=ltsp
[]'
Fernando
2009/5/14 Mark Post mp...@novell.com
On 5/14/2009 at 1:44 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
Are you saying
LTSP is one of many X server options. There is also Cygwin/XFree86. Both
are open source options. There are many commercial X server packages from
Hummingbird, Labtam and others
X servers would have much lower performance impact on zLinux since the
drawing requests are shipped across the
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Matthew Donald
matthew.b.don...@gmail.com wrote:
LTSP is one of many X server options. There is also Cygwin/XFree86. Both
are open source options. There are many commercial X server packages from
Hummingbird, Labtam and others
Actually, it's both. It's
Donald
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
Hello, all. I have a question. It seems that we are looking into a
virtualized desktop environment (Single Image) on our distributed side.
I kind of laugh at this because that's where we came from with VM and an
OS
of office functions?
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Matthew Donald
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:07 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Virtualized Desktop
Firstly, you need to know the expected environment before you can work
out
On 5/13/2009 at 4:13 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
In this
environment would SUSE linux work? And would they be able to use Ximian
and Evolution to connect to an exchange server for email/calendar and
those type of office functions?
The Evolution client is only shipped with SLED,
Subject: Re: Virtualized Desktop
On 5/13/2009 at 4:13 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
In this
environment would SUSE linux work? And would they be able to use
Ximian
and Evolution to connect to an exchange server for email/calendar and
those type of office functions?
The Evolution
On 5/13/2009 at 4:28 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
Since SLED is an Enterprise Desktop, does that mean you would have to
have one SLED for every user under VM?
I doubt anyone has even looked at what that pricing model would be like. If
such a thing ever comes into being, I would
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Firstly, you need to know the expected environment before you can work out
anything. Lets assume that you want to provide Firefox for browsing, Lotus
Notes for email, Symphony for office and x3270 for mainframe access. All of
these run
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On 5/13/2009 at 4:13 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
In this
environment would SUSE linux work? And would they be able to use Ximian
and Evolution to connect to an exchange server for email/calendar and
those type of office functions?
Mono is already ported (thanks to the ever-brilliant Neale Ferguson).
Didn't Evolution used to be open source? Did Novell make it closed source when
they took over Ximian? If it's open source, then it should be possible to get
someone to port Mono (which is open source) and Evolution (which
Hello, all. I have a question. It seems that we are looking into a
virtualized desktop environment (Single Image) on our distributed side.
I kind of laugh at this because that's where we came from with VM and an
OS running under VM (Green Screen) long ago and now it's making full
circle. In VM how
.
Ward, Mike S wrote:
Hello, all. I have a question. It seems that we are looking into a
virtualized desktop environment (Single Image) on our distributed side.
I kind of laugh at this because that's where we came from with VM and an
OS running under VM (Green Screen) long ago and now it's making
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