Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Kris, I now have also a FORMAT EXEC, which rejects to format certain minidisks, such as MAINT 191, MAINT CF1 and so on. Other thing which has happened to me, was to shutdown the wrong of two VMs at 11am. Since then I disable with AUTOLOG1 the CP SHUTDOWN at IPL and have an exec, which

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While trying to reconstruct a source directory from an object directory might seem logical, far too much information is lost in translation. Obviously it would be really easy to write a wrapper around DIRECTXA that also

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-11 Thread Bob Levad
: listing active user directory On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While trying to reconstruct a source directory from an object directory might seem logical, far too much information is lost in translation. Obviously it would be really easy to write

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/11/2008 at 03:17 EDT, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While trying to reconstruct a source directory from an object directory might seem logical, far too much information is lost in

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-11 Thread Bob Bolch
While GLOBALV is useful for setting default behavior (e.g. DEFAULTS), I wouldn't propose using it as a database of directory metadata. Adding USER DIRECT metadata to the object directory seems useful and is relatively straightforward to implement. I'd want filename, file timestamp, and

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, sanity checks are in the domain of directory maintenence products. Fully agree, so for folks using XEDIT and DIRECTXA by hand (that we were talking about) they *are* the directory maintenance product... They may have

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/11/2008 at 01:52 EDT, Bob Bolch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There could be a lot of timestamps and source minidisks in a cluster format source directory. Yeah, but who maintains such by using DIRECTXA directly? Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/11/2008 at 04:39 EDT, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And on my wish list: the userid that issued the DIRECTXA command, so we know where to put the monkey. Ooooh! I like that one, too! Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Franz Josef Pohlen
Hi listers, I have formatted the MAINT 191 disk with the user direct by accident. I have restored it from a backup which is one week old. I assume I have done all the changes to the user direct since then. Is there a way to list the currently installed directory for comparing with the source?

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Franz Josef Pohlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have formatted the MAINT 191 disk with the user direct by accident. I have restored it from a backup which is one week old. I assume I have done all the changes to the user direct since then. Is there a way to

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another way: Detach the 123, create a TDISK as 123 of a few cylinders, be sure the 123 is the T-disk, not the resident... Unless you're already very comfortable playing with this stuff, I would not recommend learning

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Kris Buelens
DIRENT can indeed grab the whole CP directory. I would pass the old CP dir and the copy obtained with DIRENT to DIRMAP and compare both maps. More practical: - Get my DRM PACKAGE from VM's download lib - Issue DRM old-cp DIRECT, press PF16 this creates and shows you fn MDISKMAP Press PF4,

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Franz Josef Pohlen
device instead. (Sh... happens) kind regards Franz Josef Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:12:56 +0200 Von: Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Betreff: Re: [IBMVM] listing active user directory DIRENT can indeed grab the whole CP directory

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Kris Buelens
I did the same 25 years ago: at 10PM, just before starting the 1h drive home, quickly added a new userid to please the customer, wanted to format this new 191 and entered FORMAT 191 Z used to the prompts that always come one enters YES...Needless to say I wasn't home around 11PM But,

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Mike Walter
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: listing active user directory I did the same 25 years ago: at 10PM, just before starting the 1h drive home, quickly added a new userid to please the customer, wanted to format this new 191 and entered FORMAT 191 Z used

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Kris Buelens
We've got MAINT B91 as backup of MAINT 191 since the VM/SP days. Our DIRBKP EXEC keep the last 9 levels of the CP directory there, as well as SYSTEM CONFIG; the result of a QUERY DASD and Q ALLOC. DIRBKP does not only maintain these backups but also performs some checks each night such as: is

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Then again, we use VM:Backup and copy our data to tape. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: listing active user directory We've got MAINT

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 03/10/2008 at 10:40 EDT, Stracka, James (GTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then again, we use VM:Backup and copy our data to tape. The point is that it doesn't matter what you do, as long as you keep a backup of your source directory in a place you can get to it. That would typically

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread LOREN CHARNLEY
:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: listing active user directory We've got MAINT B91 as backup of MAINT 191 since the VM/SP days. Our DIRBKP EXEC keep the last 9 levels of the CP directory there, as well as SYSTEM CONFIG; the result of a QUERY DASD and Q ALLOC. DIRBKP does not only

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Jan Canavan
. -Original Message- From: LOREN CHARNLEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 10, 2008 8:40 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: listing active user directory z/VM has come with the directory defaulting to MAINT 2c2 disk accessed as c. I have always left it there because the 191 disk has

Re: listing active user directory

2008-03-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 03/10/2008 at 10:15 EDT, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it would be better to keep the USER DIRECT file (or whatever you're using as the source directory) off the 191 disk altogether, placing it on a separate disk, and at known address? If you could GLOBALV SELECT