Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
Rohling Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 12:50 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk? Ah - well DEVNO isn't supported in the referenced report ;-) (an in house thing from long ago) I didn't mean to state my 'rules' as law -- I alway

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-21 Thread Scott Rohling
t change. Until > then, I see no compelling reason why I should switch. > > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > > > > -- > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Scott Rohling > *Sent:* Monday, June 21, 2010 10:53 AM > > *

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
should switch. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-21 Thread Scott Rohling
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 7:59 AM > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Subject: Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk? > > > > I second what J

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-21 Thread Schuh, Richard
- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 7:59 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk? > > I second what Jim Hughes said - essentiall

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-21 Thread Brian Nielsen
I second what Jim Hughes said - essentially that if it doesn't include cylinder 0 it's just a "minidisk", no matter what the size. Personally, and as discussed here by others in the distant past, I prefer to not give out the last cylinder of a real volume in order to make it much easier to c

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Kris Buelens wrote: > For CP, the translations it has to perform for the IO's issued by a guest > are a bit less complex if it is a fullpack minidisk.  Simply said: it > doesn't have to check the guest reads/writes to just that part of a volume. > And, when a tar

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-19 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:45:54 -0600 Scott Rohling said: >I like that - it does imply 'almost'.. but now I'm going for '12end'. >We'll see if it lasts through the weekend ;-) Tot ziens! How about 1 short of a full pack(deck)? > >Scott Rohling > >On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Rob van der Heij

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-19 Thread Kris Buelens
Richard Schuh >>> >>> >>> >>> > -Original Message- >>> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System >>> > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Les Koehler >>> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:03 PM >>> > To:

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread zMan
e- >> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System >> > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Les Koehler >> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:03 PM >> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> > Subject: Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk? >

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Scott Rohling
ell-nigh full pack" >"shaved full pack" > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Les Koehler > > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
e IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Les Koehler > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:03 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk? > > How about: virtual full-pack > > Les > > Rob van der

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Les Koehler
How about: virtual full-pack Les Rob van der Heij wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Scott Rohling wrote: Ok -- darn it. "a 1 to END minidisk" just doesn't have the same ring to it as 'full pack'. And it's another syllable to mumble.. ;-) Care for my "pseudo full-pack" terminolo

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Scott Rohling
I like that - it does imply 'almost'.. but now I'm going for '12end'. We'll see if it lasts through the weekend ;-) Tot ziens! Scott Rohling On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Rob van der Heij wrote: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Scott Rohling > wrote: > > Ok -- darn it. "a 1 to END

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Scott Rohling wrote: > Ok --  darn it.   "a 1 to END minidisk" just doesn't have the same ring to > it as 'full pack'.   And it's another syllable to mumble..  ;-) Care for my "pseudo full-pack" terminology maybe? (sounds more official than "almost full-pack")

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Scott Rohling
> Oh look... it's: FRIDAY!! BYTE me! ;-) > > Mike Walter > Hewitt Associates > The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. > > > *"Scott Rohling" * > > Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > 06/18/2

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Scott Rohling
want. Just don't make > it George. > > > Regards, > Richard Schuh > > > > > -- > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On > Behalf Of *Scott Rohling > *Sent:* Friday, June 18, 2010 2:06 PM > *

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Mike Walter
s as "1 to end"! ;-) Oh look... it's: FRIDAY!! BYTE me! ;-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "Scott Rohling" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 06/18/2010 04:26 PM Please respond

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
perating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 2:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: what is a 'full pack' minidisk? Are there different terms for a minidisk that is defined from 1-END as opposed to 0-END ?I keep having to c

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Scott Rohling
Ok -- darn it. "a 1 to END minidisk" just doesn't have the same ring to it as 'full pack'. And it's another syllable to mumble.. ;-) For Linux guests - my typical recommendation is to use '1 to END minidisks' rather than get into dividing things any smaller - unless there is a really compell

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 06/18/2010 at 05:07 EDT, Scott Rohling wrote: > Are there different terms for a minidisk that is defined from 1-END as opposed > to 0-END ?I keep having to clarify which I mean every time I use the phrase > 'full pack minidisk'. A fullpack minidisk is define as either 0-END or

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Hughes, Jim
y, June 18, 2010 5:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: what is a 'full pack' minidisk? Are there different terms for a minidisk that is defined from 1-END as opposed to 0-END ?I keep having to clarify which I mean every time I use the phrase 'full pack minidisk'. I

Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread David Boyes
DU Subject: what is a 'full pack' minidisk? Are there different terms for a minidisk that is defined from 1-END as opposed to 0-END ?I keep having to clarify which I mean every time I use the phrase 'full pack minidisk'. Is there a more succinct way to refer to them

what is a 'full pack' minidisk?

2010-06-18 Thread Scott Rohling
Are there different terms for a minidisk that is defined from 1-END as opposed to 0-END ?I keep having to clarify which I mean every time I use the phrase 'full pack minidisk'. Is there a more succinct way to refer to them separately so I don't have to parenthetically explain what I mean? (1