These pics might be too far away to see very well...will try to get
closer ones if that would help.
I think I responded earlier, but in all of these pictures, I believe that
Kopar is saddle-rack-y. The last one (#9), MIGHT be slightly toward step
pace, but all definitely show a soft gait, s
So is a step pace a type of rack? Janice thought the first pic might
be a type of rack.
No, here's the progression: pace, step pace, rack/saddle rack, running walk,
foxtrot, trot. So looking at it that way, step pace and rack might be
called "adjacent" gaits, both with some lateral influen
> > > here's my favorite "well, butter my buns and call them biscuits!"
> HAHA! raven
I have *never* heard that and I'm southern born (half southern bred,
the other half is California ;) and redneck raised...
Steph
--
"Brutality begins where skill ends."
"Correctly understood, work at the lun
> > here's my favorite "well, butter my buns and call them biscuits!"
HAHA! raven
> I love "happier than a tick on a fat dog" and "busier than a 3-
legged
> cat in a litterbox"!
I am rather fond of the expression from the animated
movie "Cars". "I am happier than a tornado in a trailer par
trot, rw. Trot in forst pic, and then rw i think!
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo
On 1/17/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I think the only one Janice and I seriously disagree on is the one I think
> is trot - and I'm standing my ground on that one! :) Seriously, it can be
> difficult to tell in SOME pictures, but looking at them helps train our
> eyes, even w
Hello, I'm new here. I'm a junior member and don't have any icelandics
but I am very passionate about the breed and natural horsemanship.
Welcome to the list, icyhugger5 - do you have a name? :) What sort of
Natural horsemanship do you practice - any particular "flavor"?
>>> You all seem to
In Arizona when we ran trail rides all the lead horses ground-tied because
we often had to get off and adjust a girth or pick up a water bottle and the
trails were narrow enough in some areas that you couldn't lead your horse
back along the string.
The cowboys ground-tied by dropping the reins
Beautiful!! Raven
On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been thinking about this for a while, and I finally did it. I don't
> recommend this as a money-saver - it cost me ALMOST as much as a new Skito
> pad would have, but it satisfied my creative urget o get Sina a "girly"
> saddle pa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> I've been thinking about this for a while, and I finally did it. I don't
> recommend this as a money-saver - it cost me ALMOST as much as a new Skito
> pad would have, but it satisfied my creative urget o get Sina a "girly"
> saddle pad. Also, my sewing m
On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's a good idea. We'll add that too. Mounting from boulders, stumps,
> sloping hillsides, whatever we can find. Of course, you're invited too. You
> could teach the ground tying part!
And, mounting from those sewer line manhole th
She's going to feel even more like a Princess in that classy pad!
Cherie
"The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate,
contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and
unrealistic."
"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:25:44PM -0600, Raven wrote:
> >> i recall there being a lot of resistance here on this list to the
> idea that i was going to be putting a lot of kids on my icey; that he
> would be a bad choice for that b/c of his breed
>
> I think what upsets some of us, was the fact t
Aw!!!
Cherie
On 1/17/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It IS a good idea isn't it? I should try that with my guysI have
> a phobia about having my reins touch the ground at all.
Me too... I developed mine when I discovered that replacing my reins
would be almost $200. I found them on a $
On 1/17/07, pippa258 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anytime! My email may not have posted but you all are welcome to do
> Cherie's "clinic" here as well...
Can I come play even though I don't have an Icey, and right now ride a
16hh horse? >bg< My friend has a halflinger/Morgan, so at least one
Gat is a great little horse--I know her gaits aren't perfect but other
than that I trust her with my girls and she seems to like them better than
adults. V
Gaits aren't everything, Virginia, and I'm glad you see that, and I hope you
understand that I do too. You have kids that love their po
Those of us in NC should get together and do a little workshop on useful
> skills for trail horses. This can include: ground tying, sidepass,
> backing,
> mounting from either side, and if anyone is interested in
> camping-hobbling,
> tying to a picket line or highline, etc..
>
> Cherie
>
>that
Karen Thomas wrote:
> BTW, it's time to start thinking about riding in Tryon (with Trish!), going
> to Dupont Forest, to Blowing Rock... this winter weather won't last forever
> you know.
Anytime! My email may not have posted but you all are welcome to do
Cherie's "clinic" here as well...
Trish
>> Raven she is for sale!
Darn! I don;t need another horse. <:[ How old is she? and what is
her color? she's so pretty, they all are! raven
>>I'm Icelandic...purebred...though I'm not registered. :)
But are you imported or domestic bred?HA! Raven ~:0]
Yes, thanks so much for the saddle pad.
Renee
On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I've been thinking about this for a while, and I finally did it.
I think you did a great job!
I've been thinking of it myself--having different covers for different
moods--animal prints, sparkles, sequins, seasonal themes, etc
V
I am in NC. It was 70 degrees here on Sunday and now it is 37. We have a
lot of swings in temps here.
Renee
I would like to ride Gat but my instructor says she doesn't have a
balanced canter yet so for now I should ride a 'tried and true' lesson
horse. So, I'll see how it goes--play it by ear.
But even that shows some sort of concern for the horse - or maybe it does.
I've known of a trainer or two
On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I've been thinking about this for a while, and I finally did it.
Karen -
That's really pretty! Good job
--
Laree
On 1/16/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My husband says he saw the whole thing and as soon as I hit the ground
> stonewall jumped away from me to keep from stepping on me and hurried to
> Traveller and put his head down into Travellers flank like he was scared and
> humbled. Whe
On 1/17/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is Alex still on the list?
No--she looks at photos occasionally but not often.
V
>>> You are so generous to keep offering to host these things I would love
that and you are in a good central location for most of us. I would be glad
to do any of the coordination work or fix meals or clean
stalls, etc
Well, Laree, the way I see it is that most of YOU live in the mountains
where
Hi...welcome to the list! Do you have any horses?
Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn, the American Ice Pony
Dixie Chick, the Mini Barn Goddess
Western WI, USA, Planet Earth
On 1/17/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/17/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > oh Virginia that is so sweet.
>
> I wasn't trying to score brownie (yum) points--but with the fur, your
> expression, the horse--you look like a movie star!
> V
>
>
ohmyGOSH. N
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 07:39:25PM -0400, Virginia Tupper wrote:
> On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > and he didn't move a foot although he did
> > turn his head to watch me. usually he just follows me around.
>
>
> I've seen them do that at the farm where I bought my
can you resend the balance rein pdf Robyn? I cant find it anywhere!
janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
> I've seen them do that at the farm where I bought my horsesI
> should try hanging the rein on Gat's ear, then maybe she won't follow
> me either.
> V
It IS a good idea isn't it? I should try that with my guysI have
a phobia about having my reins touch the ground at all.
Wanda
This looks like a good clinic!
Trish
http://www.anatomyinmotion.com/fschedule.htm
Karen Thomas wrote:
> I think the only one Janice and I seriously disagree on is the one I think
> is trot - and I'm standing my ground on that one! :)
>
So is a step pace a type of rack? Janice thought the first pic might
be a type of rack.
Did you see Kopar's pics? All my posts are com
Hi Janice,
>could you steer us to where we might read the article or at least sort
>of give us the gist of it?
When I first got involved with Icelandics I was told by numerous people,
including Dr. Isenbugel who was the head vet at the Zurich Zoo and one of
the first to have Icelandics in Swit
> Is these sleepy creature yours?
No, this is just a photo forwarded to me but it was too sweet to not share
--
Laree
Hi Vicka,
> i discovered, more or less accidentally, that stjarni ground-ties if you
>hang your reins over one of his ears.
Most horses from Iceland are taught to ‘ground tie’ by putting a rein over
one ear. It is quite handy and actually safer than leaving the reins
hanging on the grou
Raven wrote:
>>> it is a southern phrase i think. Like southern things such as:
>>>
>
>
> here's my favorite "well, butter my buns and call them biscuits!" HAHA! raven
I love "happier than a tick on a fat dog" and "busier than a 3-legged
cat in a litterbox"!
Trish
>> it is a southern phrase i think. Like southern things such as:
here's my favorite "well, butter my buns and call them biscuits!" HAHA! raven
On 1/15/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It looks to me like Gat and Alex are getting to be a great team. That
> didn't happen overnight, though, did it?
Their relationship grew over the past year--Gat trusts Alex and Alex
trusts Gat. I love watching them together. I want that bon
On 1/17/07, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And yet horses are supposed to know when we really mean a signal and when it
> is a mistake.
And it amazes me that horses can be so forgiving.
V
On 1/17/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm Icelandic...purebred...though I'm not registered. :)
>
LOL! That's funny!
V
> As for Gudmar. He has forgotten more about Icelandic horses than most of
> you will ever know. I am sorry for you, that you have to trash a man for
> what he says not because he is wrong or un-knowledgeable but because you
> don't like what he says or simply don't understand his cultur
On 1/17/07, Ingvar Ragnarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
They all look so cute!
V
On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and he didn't move a foot although he did
> turn his head to watch me. usually he just follows me around.
I've seen them do that at the farm where I bought my horsesI
should try hanging the rein on Gat's ear, then maybe she won't fo
> I wasn't trying to score brownie (yum) points--but with the fur, your
> expression, the horse--you look like a movie star!
> V
You do! I just can't think of whobut that struck me when I saw
that picture.
Wanda
On 1/17/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ground tying is pretty easy to teach i think! you just get them to
> stand still and walk further and further away each time.
> Janice
I'm going to try that. When I walk away from Gat, she follows me
though--so maybe if I walk away backw
On 17/01/07, icyhugger5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello, I'm new here. I'm a junior member and don't have any icelandics
> but I am very passionate about the breed and natural horsemanship. You
> all seem to get in alot of arguments here, I hope I don't end up in
> one. ;) Just saying hi. :)
He
On 1/17/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> oh Virginia that is so sweet.
I wasn't trying to score brownie (yum) points--but with the fur, your
expression, the horse--you look like a movie star!
V
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 10:22:00AM -0600, Janice McDonald wrote:
> >>How do you teach ground tying? This would seem very useful on the trail
> (or if I fall off :-) ).<<
>
> ground tying is pretty easy to teach i think! you just get them to
> stand still and walk further and further away each ti
On 1/17/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hey! it might snow! i am excited.
> Janice
We finally have winter here--and today it was -35 C wind chill factor!
Br
V
On 1/16/07, Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what a little doll ~!when you tire of her, you can ship her to my
> barn. <;] raven
>
Or mine! LOL
V
On 1/17/07, icyhugger5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello, I'm new here. I'm a junior member and don't have any icelandics
> but I am very passionate about the breed and natural horsemanship. You
> all seem to get in alot of arguments here, I hope I don't end up in
> one. ;) Just saying hi. :)
>
On 17/01/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hey! it might snow! i am excited.
> Janice
Hey! It's just sent the price of oranges through the roof. Someone
offered oranges and ovaltine last weekI think I'll take you up on
the offer now...:)
Wanda
On 1/17/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> she said no, a lesson horse
> had to be one that would walk round and round and round until you told
> it to stop.
I believe the theory is that, if the horse goes round and round and is
easy for a beginner, then the rider is able to pay mor
On 1/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Resting.
She's gorgeous!!
V
Laree ! Great photo!
Is these sleepy creature yours?
What breed? hard to see on their belly buttons...
nice colors to I like palomino´s
Malin
On 1/17/07, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --
> Laree
>
that is adorable Laree!
janice
Hi Karen
>And, I think an added advantage of having a couple of people from outside
>the breed look at the horses is that people who don't deal with the details
>of a breed on a day-to-day basis aren't as likely to get swept up in the
>show trend du jour.
Nor the who's who politics that go with e
>
> Sounds like a great idea to me. It sounds like several of us will be
> getting together for the limb dissection - maybe that weekend? Eitill wants
> to teach side-passing. :)
>
>
Karen -
You are so generous to keep offering to host these things I would
love that and you are in a good cent
Hi Cherie
>It's a good way to understand training from the animal's point of view. If
>a human who knows someone is trying to train them; already has a basic
>understanding of clicker training; and for the most part, has an basic
>understanding of human body language (some are clueless), sti
sorry... what I meant was I must have thought the "trot" legs were on
the same side!
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
My husband says he saw the whole thing and as soon as I hit the ground
stonewall jumped away from me to keep from stepping on me and hurried to
Traveller and put his head down into Travellers flank like he was scared and
humbled. When he caught him he said he was shaking and when all the peop
I've been thinking about this for a while, and I finally did it. I don't
recommend this as a money-saver - it cost me ALMOST as much as a new Skito pad
would have, but it satisfied my creative urget o get Sina a "girly" saddle pad.
Also, my sewing machine isn't really made to sew 3/
I cant wait to take an icelandic on a field trial.
The guy who does the massage/acupressure for us is a very down-to-earth guy
and he does a little field trialing. He said that he thought Icelandics
would be great for the sport - compact, sure-footed, quick-enough but very
sensible. He chec
Hi Janice,
>try a mullen mouth pelham
Good suggestion.
Robyn
Icelandic Horse Farm
Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
www.icefarm.com
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--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They will all look
> at me like oh brother, shes brought her dang
> shetland pony out here,
> and then when they see him move... it will be fun :)
You know, I got all good feedback about Dari, I did
get to take him on a couple of trail rides in t
oh! and a lot of field trial people really VALUE shorter horses,
cause you have to get on and off easily... my husbands Traveller is
McCurdy and that is a breed that is known for field trialing and they
are also a breed known for shortness :) My stonewall is half mccurdy
and half hot modern TWH
Since I am on my soapbox. They are called Icelandic HORSES only
because they are horses not ponies.. <<<
Hi Christopher, could you explain how you come to the conclusion that the
Icelandics are horses and not ponies? How do you, as an individual, define
or separately categor
>>> Those of us in NC should get together and do a little workshop on useful
skills for trail horses. This can include: ground tying, sidepass, backing,
mounting from either side, and if anyone is interested in camping-hobbling,
tying to a picket line or highline, etc..
Sounds like a great idea t
On 1/12/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > By Brandon Carpenter, Part 1
>
>
> This is Part 2:
>
Judy -
Is there a Part 3?
Laree
We are very pleased that someone like you purchased Skjoni from us. We
are glad that he went to someone with the patience and ability to deal with
his problems.
Thank you Christopher, but let's get a few details straight. First, I don't
think I bought Skjoni from you. I have no idea who yo
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm totally confused. Who is Christopher in the
> subject line? Did someone
> by that name write a prior e-mail that I haven't
> received...or is this
> e-mail under the name of Jeannette actually a
> response by someone named
> Christopher? I
>>> I think you're much closer than I'll ever be! I find it difficult to
distinguish the different gaits. You and Janet are much better at it than I
and you both came up with different conclusions!
I think the only one Janice and I seriously disagree on is the one I think
is trot - and I'm stand
On 1/14/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It was in the low 70's F here today. At 5pm, it's still 67. I blush to
> think what you would have been wearing outside here today!
And two days later it was in the mid 20's last night with a good
strong wind, calling for half an inch to
On 1/17/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> just dont put anything under it with hard rough braiding or fleece.
> Fleece makes the saddle slip! I tried the sensation on jaspar and it
> worked great but lost its wonderful non-slippage attributes. Also the
> cheap brand new fleece
>>> Was your Skjoni North American bred? Or was he imported from Iceland?
If he was an untrained 4 year old imported from "only excellent breeding"
Iceland, why did he develop "trust issues"?
First Trish, I won't even tell Cary that you called Skjoni "your" when
talking to someone else! He migh
On 1/17/07, pippa258 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Do you do one rein/emergency stop? After Starri bucked me off a couple
> of times when I first got him, I turned to PNH and learned about the
> one-rein stop. I could feel when he was going to do it and would do the
> one rein stop. It helped
> But I do agree with Chris Cox's advice!
And I love Chris Cox but I dont like that thing he does popping the
rope on the ground to get the horse to disengage and move the rear end
around. Because I did that to Fox and scared him so bad it caused a
behavioral problem that had to be undone!
I
>>How do you teach ground tying? This would seem very useful on the trail
(or if I fall off :-) ).<<
ground tying is pretty easy to teach i think! you just get them to
stand still and walk further and further away each time.
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
On 1/15/07, twhgroopie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone. I have been reading for a little while now. I am
> looking at buying my first Icey and need some guidance. I haven't seen
> this horse in person yet, just emails and pics. If anyone would like to
> give me their views on this horse
On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 06:50:37AM -0800, Kim Morton wrote:
> I do believe the ponies enjoy trail riding a lot
> better than going around in cirlces, you will probably
> learn a lot more out on the trail, getting into
> different situation than you always can in the
> cirlce:)
stjarni seems to lik
On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Janice McDonald wrote:
> >> Biggest thing for me I think is ground tying! They absolutely MUST
> >> ground tie. be athletic, have energy, etc.
> >>
> > How do you teach ground tying? This would seem very useful on the trail
> > (or if
On 1/17/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/16/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > he is unhappy any time he has to be out in a
> > parade. but its his job! Someone has to be eye candy!
> > Janice--
> > yipie tie yie yo
>
>
> I think you're both beautiful!
> V
>
o
On 1/16/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I don't think Gat would be happy as a lesson horse.
> V
>
i took riding lessons once. I think that was about it, once. And I
asked if next time I could ride jaspar and she said no, a lesson horse
had to be one that would walk round and
i think it is a southeast/tennessee/ term. everyone around here says
it. Lee says it in her book. There are other names for it tho... like KMSH
people calling it a daisy cutter and the mccurdy people
calling it a mccurdy lick..
I guess I missed the first question, but yes, it's not always
Sure it wasn't Bubba? >bg<
Pretty sure. MOST of the time if the name ends with "a" in Iceland, it's a
girl's name. That's why I suspect his name was "Bubbi."
Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> I was very disappointed to read that you feel the Americans have ruined
this pony er uh horse.
I'm totally confused. Who is Christopher in the subject line? Did someone
by that name write a prior e-mail that I haven't received...or is this
e-mail under the name of Jeannette actually a respon
Gat is not a lesson horse--she is Alex's horse. Alex has allowed her
friend and her niece ride Gat a couple times, and I've allowed it because I
know their riding abilities. I don't think Gat would be happy as a lesson
horse.
Is Alex still on the list? Note to Alex: you have the greatest
But don't take what any ONE person says as gospel.
That's it, exactly. I think YOU remember, Susan, that we've discussed the
good and the bad of Parelli, Anderson, and who knows how many other
trainers, ideas methods, disciplines, asking questions, considering
possibilities...don't you think
hey! it might snow! i am excited.
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
>>> It just must be horrifying to the Icelandic "horse" "society ladies",
that it turns out they really have more in common with Bubba and his speed
racker, than they do with the Kentucky Derby, they are trying
*real* hard to align themselves with that kind of thing, aren't they?
I have thoroughly
just dont put anything under it with hard rough braiding or fleece.
Fleece makes the saddle slip! I tried the sensation on jaspar and it
worked great but lost its wonderful non-slippage attributes. Also the
cheap brand new fleece girth made it slip.
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
>>> In looking at the large groups of riders at the Field Trials with all
those gaited horses with what sound like such good gaits, I wonder why
anyone would buy Icelandics?? Also many of the people look fairly sturdy -
are the horses well suited to carry the weight?
Good universal questions, for
On 1/16/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The felt conforms and gives just a little, but not
> as much as the foam.
Melissa at Nickers said I shouldn't put the two foams together because
it may compromise the stability of the saddle--she did suggest maybe
just trying my foam instead of
>>> the guns fire blanks and only the competitor has a gun to shoot when the
quail flush.
Someone just told me about a sport I'd never heard of: Cowboy Shooting.
Apparently the competitors use real period guns, and shoot blanks, but with
real gunpowder, whatever, as the gun was made to use. A few
it is national competition at field trials but also a huge four day
party, like a fox hunt. Why would you buy an icelandic?? because
they are so cool!
janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
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