Re: [IceHorses] No Horses on Ice-question

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
Perhaps someone could get the USIHC to support No Horses on Ice. HA! That was funny..! Raven Ok. I don't get it. Do the horses use iceskates? How do horses perform on ice. Never heard of it. By the way, I think the show is coming to Pheonix. My area. Lorraine Happy Southwestern

RE: [IceHorses] cholla spurs

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
OUCH! My sympathy-and congrats on staying seated and getting him stopped despite it Rachel from E KY Thank you very much. L Happy Southwestern Trails Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007

Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed

2007-04-04 Thread Judy Ryder
If a person asked you who she might contact for an icelandic to purchase, or what websites she should look at for good ones like yours, well loved and naturally trained and kept in wholesome environments I like to recommend the people who are natural, and not icelandic-show oriented.

Re: [IceHorses] No Horses on Ice

2007-04-04 Thread Judy Ryder
Perhaps someone could get the USIHC to support No Horses on Ice. HA! That was funny..! Raven I'm serious! I think the organization should take a stand if they care about the breed. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Vicka and Friends

2007-04-04 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:50:46PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: Vicka, perhaps you can be of immense help to us in getting some video for analyzing gait! Can you get a few segments of Stjarni with your digital camera? It doesn't have to be long, maybe 10 seconds; standing as close to him as

Re: [IceHorses] reaction to banamine

2007-04-04 Thread Janet Westminster
never heard of it making a horse hyper if a horse is having an allergic reaction..he may become hyper. One of my calm gentle mares freaked out on banamine. The vet said it was an allergic reaction and to never give banamine to her again. I have also heard of this happening with ace and

[IceHorses] Re: Vicka and Friends

2007-04-04 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones
You, and they, could be a valuable part of our on-going educational progression to critical mass. Is this any help? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7rWeWymJDw Stan Hirson http://hestakaup.com

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Vicka and Friends / Gait Videos

2007-04-04 Thread Judy Ryder
Is this any help? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7rWeWymJDw Thanks, Stan! Can you send me, off-list) the uncompressed part from about 6 seconds to 12 seconds? The original video should be clearer to be able to see better. Also, would you have any gait video of the horses at liberty? And

Re: [IceHorses] cruppers

2007-04-04 Thread SHERREL LEININGER
Does anyone know about cruppers? Scooter has no withers so I wondered if I should use one. Lots of hills around here. Lorraine I use a breast collar and a crupper on Stigandi when I ride in the english saddle . The western saddle stays in place better. Neither fit well so I sometimes

Re: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread ToltallyICE
Wow Lorraine, what a beautiful photo! Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho

Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed

2007-04-04 Thread Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms
--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $15,000 if she sold her 1 year old stud colt..he is awesomeof course she has 2 other icelandics that she purchased in California that she lost over $25,000 on, because the woman will not give her the paperworkshe is trusting and did not get

Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed

2007-04-04 Thread Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms
--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/3/07, Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you would rather all of us breeders go out of buisness so no Icelandics would be in the world. Yipie! Storme I am getting alarmed that more and more the

Re: [IceHorses] reaction to banamine

2007-04-04 Thread Janice McDonald
On 4/4/07, Janet Westminster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: never heard of it making a horse hyper if a horse is having an allergic reaction..he may become hyper. One of my calm gentle mares freaked out on banamine. The vet said it was an allergic reaction and to never give banamine to her

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Vicka and Friends / Gait Videos

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
Is this any help? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7rWeWymJDw Wow!!! I might pay some money for a Icey that does that. It looks so smooth. Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails Food fight? Enjoy some

Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed

2007-04-04 Thread Janice McDonald
If I was going to sell one of my horses, and I wanted to factor in how much I have invested like you have broken it down above, factoring in how much it costs to feed and for vetcare, I could sell any one of mine for 10,000 and take a loss. My 2500 weanling that you think i got such a good deal

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Crupper Helps [IH-6016

2007-04-04 Thread SHERREL LEININGER
I agree. the first saddle i got for my first icey needed a crupper on hills, but when i changed to a wintec endurance, it no longer needed a crupper, and stays in place perfectly, even on steep hills. a dixie midnight pad and a neoprene girth can also help prevent saddle slipping, to avoid needed

[IceHorses] Re: OT- Cast your Vote 2007 Photo Contest

2007-04-04 Thread icyhugger5
Who (in their right mind) would look at that photo and see noble. Maybe noble for not throwing that crazy person!

Re: [IceHorses] No foals but I have new kids

2007-04-04 Thread bia
how cute... great pictures, Sue... where do you live? Bia By endurance we conquer - Earnest Shackleton

Re: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread bia
oh my... what are you asking for him? By endurance we conquer - Earnest Shackleton

Re: [IceHorses] cruppers

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
I use a breast collar and a crupper on Stigandi when I ride in the english saddle . The western saddle stays in place better. Neither fit well so I sometimes ride one, sometimes the other. Sherrel I am still waiting for my skito pad to go with my BF Cheyenne. I tried it once and it

[IceHorses] Re: OT- Cast your Vote 2007 Photo Contest

2007-04-04 Thread icyhugger5
The ametuer Final Goodbyes photo had me in tears but got my vote. Vanetta's Boy on the professionals was my other pick.

[IceHorses] Sensation saddle pictures in actionand on horses

2007-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
Someone on the treeless list asked to see some pictures of Sensations on horses and in action. I put together a few of ours, although in most of the rider-up shots, you really can't tell what saddle we're using. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=4jh0nhxz.cfarntvvx=0y=-9mcned I tried cutting

RE: [IceHorses] representing the breed

2007-04-04 Thread Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your attitude reminds me of someone who does not vote, yet critizes all the politicians. Storme, whew, you REALLY missed the boat with that one, almost comically so. FYI, Janice is very much an activist in the sound gaited horse world...who I

[IceHorses] Anyone have an older Icelandic gelding to place in a good home?

2007-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
A friend of mine would like to have an older, bombproof Icelandic gelding for her little boy. She's willing to take on a 20-ish-or-plus year old with minor (but manageable) health issues if the price is very low. She lives in NC, so probably no imports, due to our SE risks. She's owned horses

Re: [IceHorses] Breeding Horses

2007-04-04 Thread Janice McDonald
On 4/4/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should breeding horses be a business for profit? it should be to improve the breed and if you profit, fine. You probably would have to sell them, anyone would eventually, or else you would end up with too many and once the herd gets too large if

Re: [IceHorses] Joining USIHC

2007-04-04 Thread Judy Ryder
I am saying if you do not like our Icelandic Horse congress, join them, join the trail riders program, log in some hours in the saddle, if you do not like showing, fine, there is a way to participate without showing...there are some of our members who do that here on our list, they look

Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed

2007-04-04 Thread Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms
I got the veiled hint btw, that I think my horse is valuable because I love him, but I don't think you are getting my hint, that some people are fooled by the emperors new icelandic clothes. Janice Well, I get your hint, what I do not like is you calling people Stupid, or fooledsome

Re: [IceHorses] reaction to banamine

2007-04-04 Thread Laree Shulman
So now I just wonder if he has opposite reactions. I know when sedated he drops like a rock even tho i tell them every time to sedate to effect, that he takes it hard... Cold medicine that knocks most people out makes my daughter real hyper so there can be contra indicative responses to

Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed

2007-04-04 Thread Janice McDonald
I am saying she is Acting that waymabye she could get more involved, mabye breed a little, get on the riders trail program...get involved , then come up with Positive and creative ideas to change things for the better...otherwise its irritating. I am a little surprised you would

Re: [IceHorses] Anyone have an older Icelandic gelding to place in a good home?

2007-04-04 Thread Janice McDonald
On 4/4/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine would like to have an older, bombproof Icelandic gelding for her little boy. She's willing to take on a 20-ish-or-plus year old with minor (but manageable) health issues if the price is very low. She lives in NC, so probably

Re: [IceHorses] No Horses on Ice

2007-04-04 Thread Raven
Perhaps someone could get the USIHC to support No Horses on Ice. HA! That was funny..! Raven I'm serious! I think the organization should take a stand if they care about the breed. judy...i'm the choir...remember! i know you are serious, so am i. but...i just do not see the USIHC banning

Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed

2007-04-04 Thread Janice McDonald
...the person that bred your boy, did so at some time and expense...and unless she is independently wealthy could not keep breeding for profit if she were to sell her foals at a monatary loss. Breeding is a buisness for some of us... well. I don't know her life story intimately but I will

[IceHorses] Re: Crupper Helps - Wintec

2007-04-04 Thread Barbara Sollner-Webb
SHERREL LEININGER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the first saddle i got for my first icey needed a crupper... but when i changed to a wintec endurance, it no longer needed a crupper, and stays in place perfectly, even on steep hills. Did you get a wide tree? I have looked at the wintec for

RE: [IceHorses] Breeding Horses

2007-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
Should breeding horses be a business for profit? Since, I've been breeding, I'll take that one... No, I don't really think so. It would be lovely if we could find a nice balance where the horses could become generally more affordable to more people, but without putting them into the throwaway

Re: [IceHorses] representing the breed

2007-04-04 Thread pippa258
Janice McDonald wrote: unless I could come up with some special marketing scheme, like how my horses come from a very special JRR Tolkien hobbit breed of icelandic horse heretofore unknown... Janice, When are you writing your screenplay?!! You are a blessing to this list -- and make me

Re: [IceHorses] Charm Through the Flowers

2007-04-04 Thread pippa258
Judy Ryder wrote: I love my palomino pony and peach plants! Lovely! Nice hibiscus too...wish we could have those in NC. Trish

RE: [IceHorses] Breeding Horses

2007-04-04 Thread Robyn Hood
-Original Message- From: IceHorses@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Ryder Should breeding horses be a business for profit? ... If it is a business it should, but it often isn't. Phil Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood

RE: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread Virginia Tupper
From: Lorraine Voog [EMAIL PROTECTED] My beautiful MFT is for sale He's a beauty. Excuse my ignorance--what's a MFT? V _ RealLiveMoms: Share your experience with Real Live Moms just like you http://www.reallivemoms.ca/

Re: [IceHorses] Blue for my boy

2007-04-04 Thread pippa258
Karen Thomas wrote: Melnir models the blue Sensation and Harmony bridle. Handsome boy! Trish

Re: [IceHorses] Blue for my boy

2007-04-04 Thread pippa258
Karen Thomas wrote: Melnir models the blue Sensation and Harmony bridle. Karen Thomas, NC I can't remember if you use the Sensation girth or not? I have the smallest size (22) for Starri and it was fine for my original Sensation pad. Do you find that with the hybrid model , the

RE: [IceHorses] Blue for my boy

2007-04-04 Thread Virginia Tupper
From: Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Melnir models the blue Sensation and Harmony bridle. Be still my heart!! V _ Fine Dining Fancy Food. Check Out This Collection Of Good Eats.

RE: [IceHorses] Charm Through the Flowers

2007-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
Lovely! Nice hibiscus too...wish we could have those in NC. Trish Actually Trish, there is a variation that survives here - I'm trying to think of their common name. They live here anyway, and Tryon is only a couple of degrees cooler than here. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
He's a beauty. Excuse my ignorance--what's a MFT? Missouri Foxtrotter...and he is beautiful! BTW, Lorraine, do you have a thing for palominos, or is that coincidental? My soul-mate horse prior to Sina was a 16H palomino QH - purely coincidence that Sina is palomino too, though. :) Karen

Re: [IceHorses] Charm Through the Flowers

2007-04-04 Thread pippa258
Karen Thomas wrote: Lovely! Nice hibiscus too...wish we could have those in NC. Trish Actually Trish, there is a variation that survives here - I'm trying to think of their common name. They live here anyway, and Tryon is only a couple of degrees cooler than here. Oh, great! I

RE: [IceHorses] Charm Through the Flowers

2007-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
Oh, great! I will look out for them in the gardening store as I really love hibiscus...remind me of Panama :-) I think my mom still has some sprouts that have come up in her yard from her big plants. I'll ask if you are interested. They aren't quite as flashy as the tropical hibiscus but

Re: [IceHorses] Blue for my boy

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
Melnir models the blue Sensation and Harmony bridle. I my gosh he models it well. Has he thought about being a professional? Looking good. Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails The fish are biting.

RE: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ.to Virginia

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
He's a beauty. Excuse my ignorance--what's a MFT? V Mo. Fox Trotter Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.

Re: [IceHorses] Charm Through the Flowers

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
I love my palomino pony and peach plants! Wow. That picture is a keeper. How neat. Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on

Re: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
oh my... what are you asking for him? That is such a cute reply. LOL. I am asking $3500. He is my husband's horse and he wants something smaller. He really likes our Icey, Scooter. Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails

Re: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread Maggie Hults
I am guess Missouri Fox Trotter (he has the look of it).

RE: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
Missouri Foxtrotter...and he is beautiful! BTW, Lorraine, do you have a thing for palominos, or is that coincidental? My soul-mate horse prior to Sina was a 16H palomino QH - purely coincidence that Sina is palomino too, though. :) Ever since I was little. LOL. Actually it is a

RE: [IceHorses] Blue for my boy

2007-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
Be still my heart!! V A blue that shade would look gorgeous on Orri too... :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [IceHorses] Blue for my boy

2007-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
I can't remember if you use the Sensation girth or not? I have the smallest size (22) for Starri and it was fine for my original Sensation pad. Do you find that with the hybrid model , the billets are lower? I am girthed up to almost the last hole and really could use a smaller girth.

[IceHorses] Car Hits Trailer

2007-04-04 Thread Raven
HolySmokeBatman!http://tinyurl.com/2a2rzpPS..horse is OK! Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn, the American Ice Pony Dixie Chic, the Barn Goddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.

RE: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread Karen Thomas
Ever since I was little. LOL. Actually it is a coincidence. But I do love Palominos. I think I just got lucky. Lorraine Yeah...it's not been so much that I think the color is beautiful, but more that I've known some awfully nice guys who were palominos. It started with my friend down the

Re: [IceHorses] Charm Through the Flowers

2007-04-04 Thread pippa258
I think my mom still has some sprouts that have come up in her yard from her big plants. I'll ask if you are interested. They aren't quite as flashy as the tropical hibiscus but they are still pretty. Karen Thomas Yes, please! Would like to know the name... Trish

Re: [IceHorses] Blue for my boy

2007-04-04 Thread Raven
I may have 2 mohair girth made for the sensation saddle for sale. Can't use them on my RP saddle. Raven

Re: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread bia
He is so pretty Lorraine. I have a Foxtrotter and wouldn't buy anything else at this point unless it was a mule out of a foxtrotter. Just my fav horses in the world.

Re: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread Judy Ryder
My beautiful MFT is for sale Lorraine, you should post him on the gaitedhorse list. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Car Hits Trailer

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
HolySmokeBatman!http://tinyurl.com/2a2rzp PS..horse is OK! Oh my lord. Yikes!! Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo!

Re: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
He is so pretty Lorraine. I have a Foxtrotter and wouldn't buy anything else at this point unless it was a mule out of a foxtrotter. Just my fav horses in the world. I am definetly back and forth on it. I just can't get both out enough. Harley is totally smooth. Do you have any

RE: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
Is your guy by any chance related to that lovely MFT stallion named Moon? I think Moon is in Texas. Maybe his name is Prince Moon Beam...? I think Moon is cremello, meaning he can easily have palomino babies. Karen Thomas, NC Mr Ed was my fav.. I miss him. If only they all

Re: [IceHorses] MFT for sale in AZ,attention Judy

2007-04-04 Thread Lorraine Voog
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My beautiful MFT is for sale Lorraine, you should post him on the gaitedhorse list. Judy I did that with my other MFT and got no responses. Plus I am not in a all fire hurry. I am not sure. Scooter beat the poop out of Harley today. I

Re: [IceHorses] Vicka and Friends

2007-04-04 Thread Judy Ryder
Can you get a few segments of Stjarni with your digital camera? perhaps this weekend, if i can find someone to run it while i ride? Superb! And possibly your friends can do the same with some horses in Iceland i'll ask them and see what they can do Great! Any gaits at liberty,