[IceHorses] Character Quote

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
>From Ohio Secretary of State: "Character is the combination of qualities that distinguish you as an individual. The mixture of thoughts, words and actions you express determine who you are. Your character has an impact not only on you, but also on the world around you. Being a person of characte

[IceHorses] Consider the horse

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
By Dr. Ritter: This is something that I keep seeing over and over in clinics, at shows, and other places. It concerns amateurs and professionals alike, and it infuriates me. There are too many riders who kick and grip and poke and prod and yank and jerk on their poor horses with such an ABSOLU

[IceHorses] Re: Daily schedules

2007-09-26 Thread Kim Morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Virginia Tupper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know horses are happiest with a consistent routine of feeding, at > least that's what I've read. What kind of daily schedule do you all > have with your horses? Great, you are getting the place! You know, we ha

Re: [IceHorses] Dagur

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 26/09/2007, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wanda, Your Dagur is gorgous. Mine comes in second. > > Lorraine Aw thanks...but your Dagur is handsome too. Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 26/09/2007, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AND: by all means check the prevailing weather patterns. It should help > that you are moving in the Fall, but you could also ask the seller. Excellent point. Might be a good reason to live there for a year or so, and make your determinat

Re: [IceHorses] Dagur

2007-09-26 Thread Lorraine
> > I liked this pic of Dagur. He has such lovely eyes. > > Wanda > Wanda, Your Dagur is gorgous. Mine comes in second. Lorraine Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://au

Re: [IceHorses] metal rein clips

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 26/09/2007, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you were closer, I'd fix them for you...but I'd put clips back on them! > ;) Seriously, if they are cotton rope reins, can't use just repair them with > rope clamps? No, the clips have always bothered me anyway. I like the feel of le

Re: [IceHorses] winter watering

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 26/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have a sick horse there is a monitor that tells you how much a horse > drank. Really? That's a great option. I looked at a few types of automatic waterer's a few years ago and they didn't seem to have that option. That's one o

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Nancy Sturm
AND: by all means check the prevailing weather patterns. It should help that you are moving in the Fall, but you could also ask the seller. For some reason, we sited our barn so that the hall is in line with a canyon. The wind can blow down the hall so hard that it tumbled a huge contractor's w

RE: [IceHorses] metal rein clips

2007-09-26 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I wonder if a shoe repair person could do that? Any harness person around >>> here lives quite far away. If you were closer, I'd fix them for you...but I'd put clips back on them! ;) Seriously, if they are cotton rope reins, can't use just repair them with rope clamps? Karen Thomas, N

RE: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Karen Thomas
When Alex went to her Dressage show, Gat was given a standing stall in an extra wing of the hosting barn--they had skylights--heavy plastic type stufftalk about nice and bright. If you are talking about the corrugated plastic that is patterned like the metal roofing, they aren't very exp

[IceHorses] winter watering

2007-09-26 Thread Docnshop2
Hello Virginia, What is up with the ? marks? Who knows? Whenever I use my laptop at the office the message I write looks normal on my end but on the list it adds all sorts of crazy things. Sorry. However, I do highly recommend Nelson Waterers. We bought one for the pasture abou

[IceHorses] metal rein clips

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
Last night I was reminded why I don't like metal clips on reins. One of the clips on the end of the cotton reins Cara uses on the sidepull - snapped off and broke. I plan to take the cotton reins in and have the metal clips replaced by a leather strap with a buckle, much the same as our driving r

RE: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Karen Thomas
AND ensure that the lighting is bright enough for a vet or farrier. We have about a 12 x 12 stall in our little barn and that seems large enough for a farrier to work, but the lighting in there is awful. We have extra work lights plugged into each corner, and it still seems

RE: [IceHorses] T-Posts

2007-09-26 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Do be sure to put caps on the T posts. I had a horse get badly hurt on one years ago. Absolutely. We always use them. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date:

Re: [IceHorses] Bit ??

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
>> take a look at this bit.ouch looking http://tinyurl.com/2q65vo > > > Made in England; antique... sort of reminds me of a driving bit. Here it is: http://www.tackroomproducts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TRP&Product_Code=9451&Category_Code=Bits "A Springsteen bit:

RE: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Karen Thomas
It looks like a horse could put more than his head out! The wall looks so low that a horse could easily get one (or both legs) over it and really get hurt. That's my thinking too, Cherie. There's reason that standard stall bar spacing is what it is, and that in the picture just looks scary

Re: [IceHorses] Daily schedules

2007-09-26 Thread Nancy Sturm
I am probably the most structured person on the face of the earth - the perfect mother for an autistic child, although Ron might disagree. I feed at exactly the same time each morning and evening. The horses have become so accostomed to the schedule that they will be standing in the barn waiting

[IceHorses] Daily schedules

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
I know horses are happiest with a consistent routine of feeding, at least that's what I've read. What kind of daily schedule do you all have with your horses? What happens if you go away for a weekend? Get a horse sitter? Yeah--I know I'm thinking way in advance here, but thoughts/questions

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AND ensure that the lighting is bright enough for a vet or > farrier. When Alex went to her Dressage show, Gat was given a standing stall in an extra wing of the hosting barn--they had skylights--heavy plastic type stufftalk about nice a

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
Virginia, when you plan your barn, ..plan it for a human. Make sure that if you build a large enough barn to have at least a 12 foot walk way. AND ensure that the lighting is bright enough for a vet or farrier. We have about a 12 x 12 stall in our little barn and that seems large enough for a fa

RE: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Cherie Mascis
It looks like a horse could put more than his head out! The wall looks so low that a horse could easily get one (or both legs) over it and really get hurt. Cherie

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Bia
interesting... not sure I like it but it's interesting.

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 26/09/2007, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/26/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think that's a really bad design - I've only seen those type fronts on > > stalls in Icelandic barns.I'll give more details later > > That's what I need -- the pros and cons t

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that's a really bad design - I've only seen those type fronts on > stalls in Icelandic barns.I'll give more details later That's what I need -- the pros and cons to everything! :D V

RE: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Karen Thomas
The attached shows the box stalls that were in another building. I like those because the horse can put its head out. V I think that's a really bad design - I've only seen those type fronts on stalls in Icelandic barns.I'll give more details later - but I'd go with a more traditional...

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Laree Shulman
> > Now how did you know that I was starting to panic!! > V > I've been there very recently and if it hadn't been for my husband keeping me focused I would have just given up. -- Laree What a horse does under compulsion is done without understanding, and there is no beauty in it either, any mor

Re: [IceHorses] Manure was: For Virginia - Run in

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, IceDog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where do you all put your manure? > > > > I would like to compost. > > Get a "Newer Spreader" and put it back on your pastures. > Oh, that looks good--I'll have to read the whole site. Do you have one? V

Re: [IceHorses] winter watering

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also highly recommend automatice waterers.? We use Nelson waterers.? They > are a little expensive but hold up great.? You can get it with or without a > heater.? We have never had any problems whatsoever.? They save a huge amount > of

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It looks like a wonderful well-built wooden barn, but there are a couple of > things that don't look safe to me. Remember that I used to buy off-track > Thoroughbreds. This is probably perfectly safe for the calmer Icelandics, > but I'd make t

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This will be overwhelming at first - believe me - but it all falls > into place so don't be scared - just one step at a time will get you > there. Now how did you know that I was starting to panic!! V

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Debbie K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Virginia, take a look at my link, you might get some ideas for your pony's... I've read about the track system and I do want to do that eventually! V

[IceHorses] Fencing

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
Here's an article about fencing (you have to be a subscriber or join for free 14-day subscription): http://www.horse-journal.com/issues/14_10/features/1158-1.html There are probably tons of articles about horse fencing on the internet. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Stand for Mounting Session

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
> because I thought once I click they have to get the treat right that > second. I see there is a space of time before you treat and that you > get down to treat. Part of my problem with stonewall was that I > treated from where I was, so he would turn to face me and that would > mean he steppe

[IceHorses] winter watering

2007-09-26 Thread Docnshop2
I also highly recommend automatice waterers.? We use Nelson waterers.? They are a little expensive but hold up great.? You can get it with or without a heater.? We have never had any problems whatsoever.? They save a huge amount of time, worry, and water. ???

Re: [IceHorses] Water

2007-09-26 Thread Laree Shulman
On 9/26/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > when we had our fence put in by professionals they came out and put > the posts in, with concrete in the hole, let it "cure" One thing I learned from the guys that built our run-in is that you put the concrete dry into the hole - don't add w

Re: [IceHorses] Stand for Mounting Session

2007-09-26 Thread Janice McDonald
you should develop a CT video Judy, a way to make money off your lists, not that you need it, I could see by your hip hop capris in the video that you shop on rodeo drive. Must be nice with all the money I send you to be on this list that you use it toward being a fashionista. tsk tsk, Janice-- yi

Re: [IceHorses] Water

2007-09-26 Thread Janice McDonald
when we had our fence put in by professionals they came out and put the posts in, with concrete in the hole, let it "cure" and set up several days and then came out and strung the fencing wire. I'm glad because its only been 3 years and a lot of the fence wire stuff looks like pure heck but the po

[IceHorses] Riding for Breast Cancer

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
Here is a video of a group of ladies who ride and pen cattle to raise money for breast cancer research. Watch for the Pink Stallions! http://iceryder.net/videoridingforbreastcancer.html Please feel free to forward. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

[IceHorses] Virginia

2007-09-26 Thread Debbie K.
Virginia, take a look at my link, you might get some ideas for your pony's... -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses

Re: [IceHorses] Stand for Mounting Session

2007-09-26 Thread Janice McDonald
wow very good Judy, I am impressed and inspired. Also informative because I thought once I click they have to get the treat right that second. I see there is a space of time before you treat and that you get down to treat. Part of my problem with stonewall was that I treated from where I was, so

Re: [IceHorses] T-Posts

2007-09-26 Thread IceDog
>> How tall are t-posts? They come in different heights. My fence is 5' so I buy 6-1/2' T-posts. They have a little stablelizer type thing that you pound until it's underground. I think I have a bundle of them not used yet and can get a photo if you'd like. > How deep do they go? Typically 18

Re: [IceHorses] Water

2007-09-26 Thread IceDog
> Thanks everyone! I've been numb since the acceptance--I'm excited but > I feel like a zombie...must be the shock! I'm actually going to be > moving to my 'farm' -- wow! It is exciting! > Hubby plans to have the fence posts put in by a professional fence > company, then we can put up the elec

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Laree Shulman
> > How tall are t-posts? How deep do they go? How do you put them in the > ground? Sounds like a good option since I'm not sure where I want > permanent fields. > V - This will be overwhelming at first - believe me - but it all falls into place so don't be scared - just one step at a time will

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Laree Shulman
> When you have a chance could you send a photo of the post so I can see > what they look like and how you attach the electric braid to it? V - When we were fencing this place I didn't have a lot of experience with electric fence so I went to the local Southenr States (Feed/Farm store) and I pic

Re: [IceHorses] Feel

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
> By Jeanne of the Billsbook list: Ch. 1 pgs 2 & 3 In the hopes of bringing more pearls of wisdom to the front to the brain again I present more of stuff I highlighted: 1.) When it comes to cooperating with the human, we're talking about the feeling the horse has in every square inch of his

Re: [IceHorses] Manure was: For Virginia - Run in

2007-09-26 Thread IceDog
> Where do you all put your manure? > > I would like to compost. Get a "Newer Spreader" and put it back on your pastures. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 website: www.toltallyice.com

Re: [IceHorses] Water in Winter

2007-09-26 Thread IceDog
> I was amazed at how much my power bill went down after switching from one > 100 gallon heated water trough to 3 two-hole automatic heated waterers. Oops make that 2 two-hole auto waterers! They have one water hole on each side of the fence so the 2 waterers provide water to 4 paddocks/pastures.

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread IceDog
> It looks like a wonderful well-built wooden barn, but there are a couple > of > things that don't look safe to me. Remember that I used to buy off-track > Thoroughbreds. This is probably perfectly safe for the calmer Icelandics, > but I'd make the walls higher and those vertical boards with th

[IceHorses] Feel

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
By Jeanne of the Billsbook list: Bill talks about how important feel is to the horse is the title of the chapter (Chapter 1, Page 1). This is what I find I have highlighted. May it stir you to excellence all over again, just as it is doing for me. And I quote: "...how a horse responds depends e

Re: [IceHorses] Today's quote

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
> The first Marchioness hunted till the day she died at eighty-five, who, > half-blind and strapped to the saddle, Wow! Very inspirational! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Stand for Mounting Session

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
> Here's a little five-minute session with Charm, practicing to stand for > mounting: > > http://iceryder.net/videocharmmounting.html Forgot to say that it's the last video on that page. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Today's quote

2007-09-26 Thread Nancy Sturm
Laree. That's the very best one yet. I agree. That's who I want to grow up to be. Niels West, the breeder of our Icelandics, was still riding his ponies at age 92, shortly before a debilitating stroke. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Re: dreamhorse...now internal insect repellants

2007-09-26 Thread Nancy Sturm
We had frost two nights this week and it's supposed to be 86 degrees this afternoon. The horses are growing winter coats. As much as I hate winter, I'll be glad when the warm weather ends. Hunter had a few bot eggs on his legs the other day. I haven't even seen bot eggs for years. I thought th

Re: [IceHorses] Small barn

2007-09-26 Thread Nancy Sturm
It looks like a wonderful well-built wooden barn, but there are a couple of things that don't look safe to me. Remember that I used to buy off-track Thoroughbreds. This is probably perfectly safe for the calmer Icelandics, but I'd make the walls higher and those vertical boards with the sort of p

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Ashley Gallant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use a 17 gallon all in one unit in the winter bc I only have 2 horses and I > fill it twice a day from the hose. It has never frozen and only uses 250 > watts/hour, so its very economical compared to the big ones that use > 1000-2500 watt

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But steel t-posts work fine for electric fence. How tall are t-posts? How deep do they go? How do you put them in the ground? Sounds like a good option since I'm not sure where I want permanent fields. When you have a chance could you send

Re: [IceHorses] T-Posts

2007-09-26 Thread Nancy Sturm
Do be sure to put caps on the T posts. I had a horse get badly hurt on one years ago. Nancy

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Karen Thomas
you will also need to dig the shed post/pole holes and set the posts into cement before the freeze. But steel t-posts work fine for electric fence. Cary fenced about 12 acres with electric braid in one weekend. Of course, he's done fence before, but she wouldn't need nearly that much fence

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Ashley Gallant
>>I was reading that a trough for cows would be a good waterer in winter ...they are available with a floating top which the animals push down when getting a drink--the floating top discourages freezing << I have a friend down the road who uses a bottom heater in her 200 gallon tank and in the

RE: [IceHorses] Re: dreamhorse...now internal insect repellants

2007-09-26 Thread Karen Thomas
We've been fly free for about two weeks now (maybe more)...we've already had a couple of hard frosts and the flies are gone. I only found one bot egg on Dagur tonight and it might have been one I missed when the farrier was here... My goodness, frost already? We're still i

[IceHorses] Today's quote

2007-09-26 Thread Laree Shulman
This is who I want to be - The first Marchioness(of Salisbury) was painted by Sir Joshua Reynolds, and hunted till the day she died at eighty-five, who, half-blind and strapped to the saddle, she was accompanied by a groom who would shout, when her horse approached a fence, "Jump, dammit, my Lady,

Re: [IceHorses] Dagur

2007-09-26 Thread Cherie Mascis
> I liked this pic of Dagur. He has such lovely eyes. > > Wanda What a sweet expression! Cherie

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 26/09/2007, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you have electric going out to the pasture? Yes, with yard lights over each water/feed area. Plus we're adding extra lighting this fall (if we have time)...I hate coming home just a little later from something, and having to feed in t

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/26/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there shelter out there for them? It would probably be enough > space because you'll be riding them and giving them extra exercise. So you think it should be more than an acre? I want them happy. We're not sure what we're doing for shelt

Re: [IceHorses] Dagur

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 26/09/2007, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/25/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I liked this pic of Dagur. He has such lovely eyes. > > > > What a sweetheart! Yes, he is a sweet pea. A friend pointed out to me last night that I had Dagur tied to a rail whi

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 26/09/2007, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would fencing in an acre be enough for the winter? How does everyone > get water out to their pastures? Is there shelter out there for them? It would probably be enough space because you'll be riding them and giving them extra exercise.

Re: [IceHorses] Dagur

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/25/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I liked this pic of Dagur. He has such lovely eyes. > What a sweetheart! V

Re: [IceHorses] For Virginia - Run in

2007-09-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 26/09/2007, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The tractor coming with the property was used for mowing the lawns. > Hubby wants to get a snow plow for it. He also wants to buy a little > 4 wheeler with a wagon attachment to haul manure. We managed with a snow plow for years, until l

Re: [IceHorses] Mini Horses to be Rescued

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/25/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good for > you for thinking ahead and for caring about the ones that others don't worry > about. My Wire Fox Terrier is a rescue, and so was my dog before herI never realized that horses could be rescues too until I joined this list. V

Re: [IceHorses] For Virginia - Run in

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 9/25/07, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ps--hubby is thrilled, we got the tractor too! :D > > > > > My husband would be jealous - he wants a tractor but we really don't > need one and our land is very hilly - I'm scared he would turn it over > on himself. The tractor coming with

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Silence was golden

2007-09-26 Thread Virginia Tupper
> > There's one I like called Horse-keeping on Small Acreage - or something > > similar. Now, 50 acres isn't exactly small, but it still has some nice > > ideas about how to arrange things. Thanks everyone! I've been numb since the acceptance--I'm excited but I feel like a zombie...must be the

[IceHorses] Stand for Mounting Session

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
Here's a little five-minute session with Charm, practicing to stand for mounting: http://iceryder.net/videocharmmounting.html Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Bit ??

2007-09-26 Thread Judy Ryder
> take a look at this bit.ouch looking http://tinyurl.com/2q65vo Made in England; antique... sort of reminds me of a driving bit. But I can't figure out the "how" or "why". Haven't found a comparable picture in the old bit books. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com