Re: [IceHorses] pony height not big enough for my organization

2008-01-27 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:34:23 -0600, you wrote: i know what you mean about ponies tho. shetlands seem almost like minis to me I think the US version of a Shetland is vastly different to the UK version, though - at least, all the pictures I've seen on the web are. UK Shetlands look like small

Re: [IceHorses] Medium ponies

2008-01-27 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:37:59 -0600, you wrote: if you go by that tho then welsh ponies arent ponies :) that's exactly what I said in a previous email. Welsh sec As often look like mini-Arabs (but then there was a fair amount of Arab blood introduced to improve the breed not so long ago, so I

Re: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Study

2008-01-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
Good idea and done, but I don't have any problem understanding intelectually where on the spectrum of movement each gait lies. I have have trouble distinguishing between fox trot, rack (tolt) and stepping pace when watching a video. I have learned to feel the difference on my primary riding

Re: [IceHorses] Medium ponies

2008-01-27 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:00:24 -0500, you wrote: There simply aren't many 14H+ Icelandics! Robyn had a couple that probably were over14H, and I've seen another one or two, There are quite a few over here, many of them from the line of Stefnir fra Sandholaferju who seems to throw a lot of big

Re: [IceHorses] Medium ponies

2008-01-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
that's exactly what I said in a previous email. Welsh sec As often look like mini-Arabs (but then there was a fair amount of Arab blood introduced to improve the breed not so long ago, so I guess it's not surprising!) I agree. And the temperment of the one I owned was closer to that of an Arab

Re: [IceHorses] Medium ponies

2008-01-27 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 27/01/2008, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. And the temperment of the one I owned was closer to that of an Arab than that of a child's pony. I would have to say the same is true of our Peppy (miniature). He isn't a child's pony at all. But people tend to make the assumption

[IceHorses] File - Editing, Responding to the List

2008-01-27 Thread IceHorses
Just a reminder for those who may need it: Please follow the list rules about editing / trimming (deleting) unnecessary quoted text and all message headers, footers, Yahoo ads, list footer, etc. from your replies to list messages. Email list netiquette calls for only quoting 2-3 lines of

Re: [IceHorses] Medium ponies

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
Maybe the big ones cost more on the plane to the USA? ; )) Yeah, sure, right, must be. Uh huh. It's not like height inflation is unique to Icelandic's. I can't count the number of 16+ H hunter prospects we went to see that were barely 15H - if that. It's just when we're talking about a

Re: [IceHorses] Medium ponies

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
I agree. And the temperment of the one I owned was closer to that of an Arab than that of a child's pony. I would have to say the same is true of our Peppy (miniature). He isn't a child's pony at all. But people tend to make the assumption that because he's small he would make a great

Re: [IceHorses] nos saddle fit

2008-01-27 Thread Lorraine
That is such a pretty saddle. Is it comfortable? Lorraine Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Re: [IceHorses] nos saddle fit

2008-01-27 Thread Janice McDonald
On Jan 27, 2008 11:35 AM, Lorraine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is such a pretty saddle. Is it comfortable? Lorraine it is to die for comofortable. It is a sensation hybrid with a safety orange and reflector edge chameleon package. I am gonna get some safety orange polo wraps from jeffers

Re: [IceHorses] horsie vest-Nancy

2008-01-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
It's great. I'm glad you got it. Are you feeling any better? Raining here too. We rode 14 miles yesterday, so I'm giving Hunter a couple of days off, a good chance to do indoor stuff. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] the great frozen north

2008-01-27 Thread Wanda Lauscher
Here I am leaning over a cement embankment saving Janice's life after she inadvertently slipped into our icy waters. http://2redroses.com/Fun/Best2002/Polar%20Bear%20Swim.jpg Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] What gait, Runa?

2008-01-27 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 27/01/2008, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a what gait shot, and it should be an easy one. I'll say after I get a few guesses. Flat walk? Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] the great frozen north

2008-01-27 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:41:38 -0600, you wrote: hahahaha! Here is a picture of me with wanda's dog after she sent it down here to thaw out. Frozen? Looks more like it's made out of chocolate! I reckon this is Janice's sneaky way of hiding her that-time-of-the-month-sod-the-diet treat. Mic Mic

Re: [IceHorses] pony height not big enough for my organization

2008-01-27 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:53:37 -0500, you wrote: can you guess the size of each? No, not really, but they look pretty well matched. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and

[IceHorses] Re: Free PP Horses

2008-01-27 Thread blessiowner
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Voiss of Saddle Creek Ranch in Paso Robles. He and his wife are not well, up there in years and want to give All of their horses away for Free to good homes only. These are registered purebred Peruvian Paso's and a once in a

Re: [IceHorses] Medium ponies

2008-01-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
This one? If so, the woman is about 5'9 (she's Gudmar's mum) Well, that's 69 which computes to the woman being 17.2 at the top of her head. How much below the level of her head are the horse's withers? Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Walter Feldmann / Yvonne

2008-01-27 Thread Judy Ryder
If you don't know Walter Feldmann who is one of the biggest people in Icelandic Horse riding, Yes. we have a tradition to ride these horses. You don't. Yvonne, do you see any problems with Feldmann, how he trains, rides, or instructs people on how to ride Icelandics? In the videos, did

[IceHorses] Weight-Carrying Ability

2008-01-27 Thread Judy Ryder
Found this formula on a horse site: Measuring a horses cannon bone is used by some in determining the approximate weight a horse can carry. A measurement is taken around the circumference of the foreleg, just below the knee. Add together the weight of the horse plus the rider and tack, and

[IceHorses] Mufassa

2008-01-27 Thread Docnshop2
Yes, Mufassa is very large. Gudmar had him at the KY Show and he is HUGE!! His shoe size is a 2. They did a comparison to another Icelandic, Gaefa who was 13.0 hands, just for fun.

[IceHorses] riding the young tall icey

2008-01-27 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
went on a short trail ride today, short because my girl was not to interested in following and she wanted to leap down hills or run them. I didn't let her and it made her angry and she would crow hop or buck. Neither was that bad because I put the western treed saddle on to ride and it

Re: [IceHorses] Medium ponies

2008-01-27 Thread IceDog
Well, that's 69 which computes to the woman being 17.2 at the top of her head. How much below the level of her head are the horse's withers? Actually it's 17.1 hands. And I doubt she's barefoot so you can likely add and inch putting her at about 70. 5.3 hands is 63 so a differnce of approx.

Re: [IceHorses]FALLSand MUD MIC

2008-01-27 Thread gemstonerotts
In a message dated 1/26/2008 8:17:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Me too, I open all the email with attachments. That is so I don't miss anything fun. But now and then I miss something and you guys go on talking and I have no clue so I go

Re: [IceHorses] What gait, Runa?

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
Flat walk? Close - plain, old, ordinary walk. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] What gait, Runa?

2008-01-27 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 27/01/2008, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flat walk? Close - plain, old, ordinary walk. So the difference would be in how exaggerated the head nod was?? In Lee's book the foot falls look identical. Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] riding the young tall icey

2008-01-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
. I am not sure if I should be letting her go faster on the flat and then slowing her on the turns and hills. I don't know if forcing her to go slow is going to create more problems. Like head tossing, etc. Do you have hills? There's no flat ground here and we take advantage of that with

RE: [IceHorses] What gait, Runa?

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
So the difference would be in how exaggerated the head nod was?? In Lee's book the foot falls look identical. I guess I'd say that the head nod is usually deeper/ more pronounced with a flat walk than with a regular walk. Because of the length and set of Runa's neck, however, her head nod

RE: [IceHorses] Mufassa

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
Yes, Mufassa is very large. Gudmar had him at the KY Show and he is HUGE!! His shoe size is a 2. They did a comparison to another Icelandic, Gaefa who was 13.0 hands, just for fun. Assume for a minute then that he really is 15H+...and I've seen SO many Icelandic's touted about 3-4 taller

[IceHorses] The show pony du jour

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
Karen O'Connor, a former Olympian, has been wowing the eventing world by riding a pony named Teddy. Teddy is just over 14.1H, but under 14.2H so he meets the show definition of pony. http://oconnoreventteam.com/new/index.html Anyone know how tall Karen O'Connor is? I don't think she's

Re: [IceHorses] What gait, Runa?

2008-01-27 Thread Bia
looks like a slow dog walk to me...

Re: [IceHorses] riding the young tall icey

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
went on a short trail ride today, short because my girl was not to interested in following and she wanted to leap down hills or run them. I didn't let her and it made her angry and she would crow hop or buck. Neither was that bad because I put the western treed saddle on to ride and it

Re: [IceHorses] riding the young tall icey

2008-01-27 Thread Janice McDonald
On Jan 27, 2008 3:14 PM, Jeannette Hoenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure if I should be letting her go faster on the flat and then slowing her on the turns and hills. I don't know if forcing her to go slow is going to create more problems. Like head tossing, etc. i have a goey horse that

Re: [IceHorses] Walter Feldmann / Yvonne

2008-01-27 Thread Janice McDonald
Is this the person that the USIHC is bringing in to teach Americans how to ride Icelandics? yes. janice -- courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway--John Wayne

Re: [IceHorses] What gait, Runa?

2008-01-27 Thread Janice McDonald
i thought RW too. She has a very nice sweeping back legs motion. very VERY nice. today i rode Jas and he did a jog! I swear to goodness. i know it wasnt a pace. no side to side movement, just a gentle trot so soft my rear did not leave the saddle. i cant put my finger on it and dont know if

Re: [IceHorses] Weight-Carrying Ability

2008-01-27 Thread Lynn Kinsky
On Jan 27, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Judy Ryder wrote: Found this formula on a horse site: Measuring a horses cannon bone is used by some in determining the approximate weight a horse can carry. A measurement is taken around the circumference of the foreleg, just below the knee. Add together the

RE: [IceHorses] Weight-Carrying Ability

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
Measuring a horses cannon bone is used by some in determining the approximate weight a horse can carry. A measurement is taken around the circumference of the foreleg, just below the knee. Add together the weight of the horse plus the rider and tack, and divide this sum by the cannon bone

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Free PP Horses

2008-01-27 Thread Lynn Kinsky
http://www.tomvoiss.com/saddlecreek/links.htm Just out of curiousity, where did this info come from? I checked out the link and it does not seem to work. I passed this on to some of contacts who have Peruvians and they had some questions. The link works now (their server might have been

Re: [IceHorses] pony height not big enough for my organization

2008-01-27 Thread Annie Shields
I remember shetlands when I was a kid. They weren't much smaller than Icelandics. I started raising Icelandics about the time the bottom fell out of the shetland pony market, about the time most Americans were realizing that it was a rare small child who could ride such a complicated, rascally

Re: [IceHorses] The show pony du jour

2008-01-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
Teddy is just over 14.1H, but under 14.2H so he meets the show definition of pony. What a gorgeous pony. I used to belong to a club that put on what became a prestigious combined training event at Lily Glen in Oregon. I rode parts of the course, but never actually completed. I was one

[IceHorses] Old eventing photo

2008-01-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
Here's an old photo (A little fuzzy) of Moony's Mine at Lily Glen. I had purchased him off the track and later sold him. At the time this picture was taken, he was competing very successfully under another name, which I can't remember. Nancy attachment: horses two.jpg

Re: [IceHorses] What gait, Runa?

2008-01-27 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 27/01/2008, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'd say that the head nod is usually deeper/ more pronounced with a flat walk than with a regular walk. On Friday when I went out to feed, Solon came gaiting in. Honestly lately he's been taking my breath away. He's such a nice

Re: [IceHorses] O/T Sophie

2008-01-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
Ohmigosh. She is so cute. She appears to have a good poker face too. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] What gait - Runa #2

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
Assuming those two diagonal feet hit the ground at the same time ... trot? This is a little tricky I guess because it's not a soft gait. It's canter. To be a trot, there would have to be some pairing between both diagonal pairs, but a canter is neither lateral or diagonal exactly - it's

Re: [IceHorses] What gait, Runa?

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
I was wishing I had my camera with me that day, because I would have loved a video of it. From his tail set it looked more 'racky' but he didn't sustain it long enough for me to study it. When Janice visited here with Stonewall, I took a little video of him. I would have sworn that he

Re: [IceHorses] What gait, Runa?

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
i thought RW too. She has a very nice sweeping back legs motion. very VERY nice. Thanks. I think so. today i rode Jas and he did a jog! I swear to goodness. i know it wasnt a pace. no side to side movement, just a gentle trot so soft my rear did not leave the saddle. i cant put my

[IceHorses] Re: Free PP Horses

2008-01-27 Thread blessiowner
The link works now (their server might have been down -- we've had hurricane force wind gusts and lots of rain last night in this part of California). But the original posting (http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/SoCalGaitedRiders/message/11743) didn't say they were all free, although I'm

[IceHorses] Pony Problems

2008-01-27 Thread JR
When I went looking for a pony last year, I found Jakey. He was being kept for a women for free given that he could be used in lessons. This adorible 13'3 bay gelding was to die for. I asked why I had not seen him in our lessons. The woman laugh and said the first time a child was put up

[IceHorses] Re: Medium ponies

2008-01-27 Thread blessiowner
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen several Icelandic's in the USA who were touted to be 14.2- 15H - I even got a chance to measure a couple of them. I feel sure that one is legitimately 14.1H - a genuinely big Icelandic, probably the biggest I've

Re: [IceHorses] Weight-Carrying Ability

2008-01-27 Thread gemstonerotts
In a message dated 1/27/2008 5:28:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Karen, I think my pony is 12.5 maybe a little bigger now. He is stout so I really don't know what he weighs I would think about eight hundred or so pounds. I am 125 lbs and my saddle weighs maybe 18

[IceHorses] Re: FALLSand MUD MIC

2008-01-27 Thread Kaaren Jordan
Sorry to tag on, but power has been spotty all day...RAIN, RAIN GO AWAY...PLEASE We had 3.5 of rain from 7pm Sat to 7am Sunday with winds so high my breezway stall mats blew into the yard. Still raining with another 1.5 from 7am -now. This brings our rain totals to about 12 since

[IceHorses] Re: Free PP Horses

2008-01-27 Thread Kaaren Jordan
I spoke with Tom Bev today they placed all their horses to one home already. Very nice people who did their best to ensure a wonderful future for their beloved equine companions. Kaaren

[IceHorses] Mufassa

2008-01-27 Thread Docnshop2
Yes, Mufassa is definitely over 15 hands. I will see if I can get a picture of the comparison with Gaefa. No, I don't particularly want an Icelandic that big. I actually felt very sorry for him at the show. Everyone made a spectacle out of him.

[IceHorses] Teaching Charm To Talk

2008-01-27 Thread Judy Ryder
Teaching Charm to talk has been on the list of Things To Do for a while. The other day we had a chance to start on this project: http://iceryder.net/videoclickercharmtalk.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

[IceHorses] Totally OT-

2008-01-27 Thread Raven
This is totally off topic, but...what an amazing wonderful story. Christian - the lion who lived in my London living room http://tinyurl.com/create.php Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze

RE: [IceHorses] Totally OT-

2008-01-27 Thread Mary
Hey, Raven~ I have a broken link on my computer...what are we supposed to enter? Mary Dudley, LVT Just Dream It Fandango Ranch

[IceHorses] last spring

2008-01-27 Thread Wanda Lauscher
Since we're in the throws of a blizzard right now, or at least one is beginning to howl around us I'm looking at pictures from last spring. This is a video I took of Kevin flying his remote-controlled helicopter out over the horses. Gusti and Solon are especially interested. Elska and Kria

[IceHorses] Re: Totally OT- CORRECT LINK !!!

2008-01-27 Thread Raven
Sorry about that, here is he correct link. Christian - the lion who lived in my London living room http://tinyurl.com/35c2r2

RE: [IceHorses] What gait - Runa #2

2008-01-27 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
is this a plain trot? That is what it looks like it would feel under saddle.

[IceHorses] Soul of the Horse - Book

2008-01-27 Thread Raven
My friend Joe will soon release an awesome book!! The Soul of the Horse, by Joe Camp. I've been lucky enough to read this parts of this book as Joe was writing it and it's a wonderful book. It's a book you will not want to put down. For those of you who do not know who Joe is, he wrote all

RE: [IceHorses] Mufassa

2008-01-27 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
Renee, did you spend some time talking to Gudmar about who he brought Mufassa over here for? Is there a plan for him or is he something that Gudmar wanted to keep for himself?

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Free PP Horses

2008-01-27 Thread Raven
All PP horses have been taken. Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.

[IceHorses] young tall icey

2008-01-27 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
Thanks Janice, I don't use the wonder bit anymore either, never did on her even when I had it. I started her with a side pull and went to a sidepull with a stainless steel broken bit but it was so big in her mouth I didn't like it and she played with it too much to get her to hear my signals.

RE: [IceHorses] Barney, From Lin

2008-01-27 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
Judy, who is Lin, and where is she located. I have a friend in search of a trained pony for her short husband and she is wanting something that looks like Barney. Could you hook us up?