Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 19/02/2008, Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Liz said my breast collar was useless and way too big for Teev > and helped me adjust it. i was surprised it was so snug! But it doesnt > rub him and man, it sure does stabilize my saddle! > A crupper should not be used to stabilize a saddle,

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Feb 19, 2008 11:37 PM, Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A crupper should not be used to stabilize a saddle, if that is the > case... a saddle that does not correctly fit a horse. There should be > a fist size space under the crupper strap (runs to back of saddle). A > snug crupper is puttin

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Feb 19, 2008 7:18 PM, prairiefemme2006 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ro stands like a > rock, bless her. A perfect horse for my golden years!! Hi there! Ro sounds like a great horse! V

Re: [IceHorses] riding near the Superstitions in AZ

2008-02-20 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Feb 19, 2008 9:58 PM, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gosh I really don't like pictures of me. But we had > fun. It was so warm. > Great photos! V

Re: [IceHorses] duett saddles

2008-02-20 Thread Janice McDonald
On 2/20/08, Stephanie Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/19/08, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am too :) and I got my wide tree thornhill from you Steph. > > I sold you a Thorogood, not a Thornhill. Thorogood is a synthetic. ;) > ah, thats right. I had a thornhill icel

RE: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I've always felt that a crupper could hide a saddle fit issue. I'm sure I >>> could go without a girth on Gusti's BM...it stays in place no matter what I >>> do. I feel that way too. I remember Virginia struggling to find a saddle for Gat though, and I know she tried several saddles and

RE: [IceHorses] duett saddles

2008-02-20 Thread Karen Thomas
I am too :) and I got my wide tree thornhill from you Steph. >>I sold you a Thorogood, not a Thornhill. Thorogood is a synthetic. ;) Come to think of it, Janice, wasn't that "Icelandic saddle" that you had years ago and hated, a Thornhill? Could that be what you were thinking about? Ka

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Laree Shulman
On Feb 19, 2008 6:06 PM, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > When I dismount I first remove both feet from the stirrups, swing my > > leg over and jump down away from sliding down the horses side. I > > think they call that an emergency dismount, not sure. I was taught this was the

Re: [IceHorses] riding near the Superstitions in AZ

2008-02-20 Thread susan cooper
--- Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>our summers are so bad that I earn bragging rights about the beautiful weather right now.<< You got that right! If you want to ride in the summer, you better get out at 1 or 2 AM to do it! >> We are expecting rain tomorrow too.<< We have rain today wi

RE: [IceHorses] duett saddles

2008-02-20 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> It's not just width, but angle of the bars, length, sway, etc... That's true, but with Icelandic's, often you can't get past the width limitation. Anyone of those traits can be a dealbreaker in deciding if the saddle fits.. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Check

[IceHorses] Re: Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Susan Coombes
> When I dismount I first remove both feet from the stirrups, swing my > leg over and jump down away from sliding down the horses side. I > think they call that an emergency dismount, not sure. Every riding teacher I've had has taught that dismount. I have been told you never dismount with foo

RE: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> A crupper should not be used to stabilize a saddle, if that is the case... a saddle that does not correctly fit a horse. There should be a fist size space under the crupper strap (runs to back of saddle). A snug crupper is putting alot of stress on a horse's tail and spine. I feel that way

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Nancy Sturm
working on MY balance had become a top priority for me. We went out Saturday (not Tosca) with a group of endurance riders and came down a very long VERY steep trail. Two of the women got off and walked downhill - bless them - because they had ill fitting saddles on new horses and knew it.

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread susan cooper
--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I suspect if you ride down a very steep descent that even a saddle that fits well on a horse with withers ridden by a very balanced and experienced rider could slip. << Having come from the East Coast and knowing well the Applachian Mountains (as

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Janice McDonald
sometimes looking over the edge of a sinkhole is a sheer limestone cliff 300 feet down... we have caves here and lots of sinkholes. also river bluffs and ravines can be very steep. the worst ones here, maybe its just a "hill" but i have been down some steep hills made of thick thick loose sand wh

Re: [IceHorses] Picture from 1990's

2008-02-20 Thread Janice McDonald
are you supposed to ride a horse with no slack at all in the reins? Is that what they call bit contact?? Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Picture from 1990's

2008-02-20 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:06:45 -0600, you wrote: >Is that what they call bit contact?? It's what Mary Wanless calls water skiing! ; ) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeu

[IceHorses] Re: Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Kaaren Jordan
When I used to show on the hunter-jumper circiut I witnessed some pretty nasty accidents resulting from that form of dismount..the worst of them with someone catching their heel in the reins & comming off directly on her neck breaking it.There is not much of a way to "abort left off" from this pos

[IceHorses] Welcome new member (was Re: Cruppers)

2008-02-20 Thread Renee Martin
> Hello, I'm a new member to this group. I am partners with a beautiful silver dapple Icey mare named Ro. Hi and welcome Ro's partner. (I'm sure you'll tell us your name later on. : ) >She may be the only one registered in North Dakota (at least as of the last stats in the USIHC mag). Quit

Re: [IceHorses] duett saddles

2008-02-20 Thread Janice McDonald
> Come to think of it, Janice, wasn't that "Icelandic saddle" that you had > years ago and hated, a Thornhill? Could that be what you were thinking > about? yes, that one, ironically, was completely unacceptable! even tho it was a "wide" tree. I dont even think that one fit Nasi! When he wa

[IceHorses] Quadriplegic Endurance Rider

2008-02-20 Thread Judy Ryder
"Endurance rider Laurie returns to the trail seven years after rehab from a spinal cord contusion. Laurie had over 7000 endurance miles before her accident and was injured in an ATV accident and was originally told she would never walk again or leave the bed. She is still considered quadriplegi

Re: [IceHorses] riding near the Superstitions in AZ

2008-02-20 Thread Lorraine
--- susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We have rain today with highs back in the 40's. > We've > just had our Februry tease with 10 days of sunny and > 60's. That means the WORST of our winter is over. > (knocking on wood). oh I remember those so. nev. winters. Lorraine _

[IceHorses] It is the little things that make you happy

2008-02-20 Thread Lorraine
For a year now, Scooter wouldn't pee on the trail. He waits till he get's home. (Shy blatter) He has been peeing on the trail now and it makes me so happy. Good boy. And in front of two mares. LOL. Lorraine ___

Re: [IceHorses] Picture from 1990's

2008-02-20 Thread Nancy Sturm
> > No noseband. That must have been around the time nosebands were > introduced > to the breed? There may be no noseband, but the rider has a pretty firm hold on that bit, using the strength and position of her elbows and arms as leverage. Gait? Who knows? He has the two feet on one side

Re: [IceHorses] Picture from 1990's

2008-02-20 Thread Janice McDonald
i think trot or foxtrot. thats the way Tivar walks when he is showing off, head high. prancey. but there is about three feet slack in the reins. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Nancy Sturm
> > Now please, no one ask who Mama Cass is (actually was) so I don't have to > feel really OLD. : ) I think Mama Cass was younger than I was - and could sing a whole lot better. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Renee Martin
>I said "well you look just right sized on her, I bet I look like mama cass on a mini," Hahahaha! Janice, you are so wonderful at creating great visuals to go along with your stories. Now please, no one ask who Mama Cass is (actually was) so I don't have to feel really OLD. : ) -- Renee M. i

Re: [IceHorses] Picture from 1990's

2008-02-20 Thread Nancy Sturm
> are you supposed to ride a horse with no slack at all in the reins? > Is that what they call bit contact?? Janice, this is a rhetorical question right? The straight answer is there is no "supposed to" to it. It would depend on the discipline, the stage of the horse's training, the "moment

Re: [IceHorses] riding near the Superstitions in AZ

2008-02-20 Thread Renee Martin
> Gosh I really don't like pictures of me. But we had > fun. It was so warm. Lorraine honey, that much upper lip hair suggests a serious hormone problem. Better get that checked and in the meantime, check out a bleaching cream. Seriously -- Lovely scenery! It's amazing all the different t

Re: [IceHorses] Picture from 1990's

2008-02-20 Thread Renee Martin
> > > > > No noseband. That must have been around the time nosebands were introduced to the breed? I think they came along much earlier, early 1960's, soon after the breed being introduced to Germany. I believe the dropped nosebands were an "import" from Germany. > There may be no noseband,

Re: [IceHorses] Quadriplegic Endurance Rider

2008-02-20 Thread pyramid
> accident and was injured in an ATV accident and was originally told she > would never walk again or leave the bed. She is still considered > quadriplegic." my goodness. she's clearly weak, but by what standard would she be considered still quadriplegic? she could clearly move at least two

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Janice McDonald
> I think Mama Cass was younger than I was - and could sing a whole lot > better. I saw a special on tv about her recently. She never revealed who was the father of her daughter. She was very lonely and wanted a child and one day announced to the band "I decided I am going to have a baby" and

[IceHorses] Re: Picture from 1990's

2008-02-20 Thread Susan Coombes
> > Also, what gait is this horse doing Stepping pace. Sue UK

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Janice McDonald
> The last time I checked a crupper and a breast collar were two different > things. oh no, you gotta be kiddin me. No wonder tivar's breast collar is so snug. ar ar ar Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

[IceHorses] Playing me and my shadow in the paddock, Ofeig has two boyfriends

2008-02-20 Thread Susan Coombes
I have been playing this game in the paddock. It isn't as smart as usual due to my bad back. As a result we didn't get the distance or the variations of speed we normally get. I was hoping to get some decent gaiting pics but not very good. She eventually pays attention to my end of session sign

Re: [IceHorses] Playing me and my shadow in the paddock, Ofeig has two boyfriends

2008-02-20 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Susan Coombes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been playing this game in the paddock. Cute! V

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Raven
>> The last time I checked a crupper and a breast collar were two different things Correct. Breast collar attaches to the front of your saddle, crupper at the rear. Neither shoyld be used to stablize a saddle! They are there...as security measures...should your saddle start to slide going up or

[IceHorses] Re: Playing me and my shadow in the paddock, Ofeig has two boyfriends

2008-02-20 Thread kristenroberson13
That video is too cute! Kristen http://www.barnculture.com

Re: [IceHorses] Playing me and my shadow in the paddock, Ofeig has two boyfriends

2008-02-20 Thread Janice McDonald
HA! That is too cool!!! and i love the name "Basil"!! Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Karen Thomas
Having come from the East Coast and knowing well the Appalachian Mountains (as we spent every vacation there), there is also a BIG difference between "steep" back East and "steep" here out West. I don't know. I've been in the Rockies and in the Cascades, and sure, we don't have 10,000+

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Karen Thomas
>Having come from the East Coast and knowing well the Appalachian >Mountains (as we spent every vacation there), there is also a BIG >difference between "steep" back East and "steep" here out West. I don't know. I've been to the Rockies and in the Cascades, and sure, we don't h

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Annie Shields
Silver dapple, silver hair, golden years. Your relationship with this list will be prosperous. Welcome. Annie

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread susan cooper
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sure, the climbs and drops don't go on for thousands of feet, but she's got some steep spots, believe me<< That's the kind of trails we have in our mountains and one of the reasons I don't ride in the mountains. I went on one group trail ride tha

Re: [IceHorses] Cruppers

2008-02-20 Thread Karen Thomas
So I'll stick to my desert with the easy mountains thrown in (those are the ones with the canyons to ride in that you don't have to go UP, UP, UP on!!!) Hey, I LOVE going up...but somehow, there always seems to be an equal amount of going down to balance it all out. :) When I ri

RE: [IceHorses] Picture from 1990's

2008-02-20 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Janice and Nancy > are you supposed to ride a horse with no slack at all in the reins? > Is that what they call bit contact?? I would say 'it depends'. Remember that if you are riding with heavish rope reins then a slight slack in the rein will feel the same , as far as weight goes, as a light

[IceHorses] Timing

2008-02-20 Thread Judy Ryder
Look at how closely these horses' legs are timed together. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PsdJYCusUQ Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

RE: [IceHorses] Picture from 1990's

2008-02-20 Thread Karen Thomas
Also, what gait is this horse doing? I'd say it's one of those gaits not really deserving of a name. It looks very slow and lateral, but the rider is pulling the reins down at an odd angle, and with a lot of force. It's pacy, but stilted, and not very fast - probably not indicative of what

[IceHorses] Genetic testing for EPSM/PSSM

2008-02-20 Thread Raven
FYI: Just wanted to let everyone know that a genetic test for equine polysaccharide storage myopathy (EPSM/PSSM) is now available. This has long been the disease de jour for horses with tying-up, back pain, Shivers and a host of other vague complaints but the high fat diet can induce laminitis and