Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, no wonder! That looks like a zero-turn-radius John Deere. My husband has been drooling over them! It moves faster than the tractor and can go around trees so our lawns won't be an 8 hour mowing job anymore,

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We looked at those, but decided on the yard tractor because we could do more with it. Well, that was my argument but it didn't work so he's getting what he wants...now if only he'd finish the fence. V

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Nancy Sturm
It moves faster than the tractor and can go around trees so our lawns won't be an 8 hour mowing job The one thing I've noticed is that when they get great toys, they like to use them. This gets the lawn mowed and the hay bales hauled. Bruce wanted an ATV and I agreed , suggesting to

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one thing I've noticed is that when they get great toys, they like to use them. I've been noticing that. I'm encouraging him that we need a 4 wheeler with a dump trailer, actually 2 of the 4 wheelers so we can drive

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/18 Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been noticing that. I'm encouraging him that we need a 4 wheeler with a dump trailer, actually 2 of the 4 wheelers so we can drive the property and cut trails. :D Ahwe've done that. That calls for a great huge chain saw... Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/18 Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/5/18 Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been noticing that. I'm encouraging him that we need a 4 wheeler with a dump trailer, actually 2 of the 4 wheelers so we can drive the property and cut trails. :D Ahwe've done that. That calls

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Nancy Sturm
Ahwe've done that. That calls for a great huge chain saw... Yup. We have a wonderful new chainsaw. I'm yearning for a power washer now. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Karen Thomas
We looked at those, but decided on the yard tractor because we could do more with it. Kevin was dragging a bale into place the other day... But Cary already has a full sized tractor...so he NEEDS a new mower. And I'm sure he'll pick up a set (or two) of socket wrenches when he finally

[IceHorses] Re: George / Saddles

2008-05-18 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know if George has been open to treeless saddles for a while, or if he's just accepting of them because there aren't many treed options for some horses, like our short-backed, wide ponies? George mentioned that

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Debbie K.
I can not wait to use the polaris to haul the Piles the horses leave me in the barn... ya hoo!!! it has a dump box on it, and goes through our 6 foot gaits. PNH Levels 1 2 Clinics, Rochester MN http://www.sittinghorse.us The Soul of a Horse ~ has touched my soul, may it touch yours too! ~

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Karen Thomas
The one thing I've noticed is that when they get great toys, they like to use them. This gets the lawn mowed and the hay bales hauled. Bruce wanted an ATV and I agreed , suggesting to him that it would make it easier to clean stalls. He has a little dump trailer that he pulls

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Karen Thomas
I've been noticing that. I'm encouraging him that we need a 4 wheeler with a dump trailer, actually 2 of the 4 wheelers so we can drive the property and cut trails. :D V The next toy on Cary's list isn't a 4-wheeler. Instead, he wants a Gator or equivalent.Here are the Kubota

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Nancy Sturm
so I bush-hogged the arena Friday. Your arena is really beautiful. I think I like the grass better than my tilled harrowed dirt. You probably don't struggle with dust. A friend's husband had a wonderful new Kubota. I think it has air conditioning and a sound system. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Nancy Sturm
The next toy on Cary's list isn't a 4-wheeler. Instead, he wants a Gator or equivalent. Creekside has a well-used Gator that's beginning to wear out and they're looking at some sort of tiny truck with a dump bed. I can't quite envision what it it, but it MUST have room for their two

[IceHorses] bitless bridle

2008-05-18 Thread Wanda Lauscher
What does everyone think of this bridle? http://www.nurturalhorse.com/Nurtural_Bridle_Demo.html Wanda -- Thoughts become things...

Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle

2008-05-18 Thread susan cooper
--- Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does everyone think of this bridle? http://www.nurturalhorse.com/Nurtural_Bridle_Demo.html I have one that works in a simular manner than Andi hates. He hates the pressure from underneath. It is sitting unused in my tack room. Now both

Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle

2008-05-18 Thread Nancy Sturm
Kaaren Jordan's husband makes a wonderful sidepull and LTJ site has another very nice one. Here's what I use on Hunter: http://www.hought.com/end.s.hackamore.html The noseband is so soft that it doesn't need to be wrapped. There is that chain, soft hands suggested, although I can probably

Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle

2008-05-18 Thread susan cooper
--- Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what I use on Hunter: http://www.hought.com/end.s.hackamore.html The noseband is so soft that it doesn't need to be wrapped. There is that chain, And el cheapo me looks at what I want, then I go about finding the cheapest! Plus, I

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Karen Thomas
Your arena is really beautiful. I think I like the grass better than my tilled harrowed dirt. You probably don't struggle with dust. Thanks, but it's what it is for practicality, no other reason. This is the most practical surface for us, although I'm sure it wouldn't be for everyone.

Re: [IceHorses] Re: George / Saddles

2008-05-18 Thread Karen Thomas
George mentioned that he made some treeless saddles in the past and that they did not work out so he bought them back. I think that is in one of videos, but he might have said it off camera. My impression is that he wants to protect the spinal process as much as possible with a wide

Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle

2008-05-18 Thread Karen Thomas
http://www.nurturalhorse.com/Nurtural_Bridle_Demo.html I'm not sure I see what's different about it from any other bitless bridle cross-over style. Can you see something different? The noseband is nice and fat though, and I'm glad she was clear that it shouldn't be on the soft part of

Re: [IceHorses] The Buyer is Me

2008-05-18 Thread Janice McDonald
There is a further point that I'm just going to toss out to the list. I have found that a considerable amount of natural horsemanship is discounted unless it is seen on some kind of high performance horse. or on some backyard pet that for so many is subject to disdain, tho I will never

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Debbie K.
http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/Ranger/2008Navigation/500Series/4x4EFI/Pages/Overview.aspx Here is what we bought yesterday, I am so excited, even though it is a boy toy, I can enjoy it with Dan, it will be fun! -- PNH Levels 1 2 Clinics, Rochester MN http://www.sittinghorse.us The Soul

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Debbie K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/Ranger/2008Navigation/500Series/4x4EFI/Pages/Overview.aspx Here is what we bought yesterday I like that!!! V

Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle

2008-05-18 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what I use on Hunter: http://www.hought.com/end.s.hackamore.html Love the colors. How does it work? V

Re: [IceHorses] Re: George / Saddles

2008-05-18 Thread susan cooper
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, some of the so-called treeless saddles really aren't anything but glorified bareback pads. Speaking of good treeless... I made my own el cheapo version of a Port Lewis Impression Pad. Instead of $200, I spent $11 on a clear shower curtain, and

Re: [IceHorses] The Buyer is Me

2008-05-18 Thread Kathleen Douglas
On May 18, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Janice McDonald wrote: SO face it, and much as anybody who reads this may hate to admit it, look real hard at me, because like it or not, guess what I am? I am the baby boomer median population now, the average horse owner, a middle aged woman. and not only do I

Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle

2008-05-18 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/18 Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I hope she rides with more finesse than she showed in that video. Her small turns were pretty abrupt looking to me! Pretty rude to the horse... Have you seen one in person? No, just ran across it this morning. I couldn't see any difference

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Nancy Sturm
Here is what we bought yesterday, I am so excited, even though it is a boy toy, I can enjoy it with Dan, it will be fun! Please forgive me for writing this, I know you and Dan are not reckless, but please be careful. Two young off-duty firemen died here a few weeks ago when one of those

[IceHorses] File - Editing, Responding to the List

2008-05-18 Thread IceHorses
Just a reminder for those who may need it: Please follow the list rules about editing / trimming (deleting) unnecessary quoted text and all message headers, footers, Yahoo ads, list footer, etc. from your replies to list messages. Email list netiquette calls for only quoting 2-3 lines of

Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle

2008-05-18 Thread Nancy Sturm
Love the colors. How does it work? Hate to even tell you. The little short s curve shanks apply pressure on the chain. Hunter is a high energy Tennessee Walker that I have determined to work with rather than dumping him back on the market. His tongue is badly scarred by an old injury

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Judy Ryder
I've been thinking about getting something for my husband to drive up and down the driveway which is relatively steep, to get the mail and take the trash cans down. What's the best one, and what are the prices? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Horsemanship

2008-05-18 Thread Judy Ryder
from people I have talked with, particularly in the Icelandic horse world, they really believe that various methods are needed in order to get the horse to perform. Why they need the horse to perform that way is another issue! I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying. Can you

Re: [IceHorses] Ventroflexion

2008-05-18 Thread Judy Ryder
Way too far back, resting on the kidneys and not properly supported. He also felt that the girths were also too far back and compressed the chest where there was no sternum for protection. We won't go into ventroflexion. We probably should go into ventroflexion, since it affects our horses

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Nancy Sturm
Ohmigosh! Talk about cute. Can't remember - Wirehaired Pointer? We had German Shorthaired Pointers as kids. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle

2008-05-18 Thread susan cooper
--- Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mostly, I use a soft following hand or even loose rein, Oh yes, if you have heavy hands or balance off your hands, your horse will NOT be happy in the S Hack. But don't worry, if this is the case - your horse will tell you! Susan in NV read

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread susan cooper
--- Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ohmigosh! Talk about cute. Can't remember - Wirehaired Pointer? We had German Shorthaired Pointers as kids. Yes, wirehair! I've had Pointers (English) and this is my first wirehair. He is the first only dog I've had in my life, and he is spoiled

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:45 PM, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a pic of Hoss on one of our trips. Of course he has to have his own goggles (doggles) - we need them so why wouldn't he??? That is too cute!!! V

[IceHorses] HORSES TALKING

2008-05-18 Thread susan cooper
From the book, HORSES TALKING by Margrit Coates: The more we understand that horses mirror out thoughts, fears and self-doubts, problems and behaviour, the easier it is to work at letting go of these issues. The incentive is a better rapport with our horse. The horse also mirrors our healing

[IceHorses] Uh oh!!

2008-05-18 Thread Virginia Tupper
Test driving that new mower and looking for a place to mow, hubby just mowed the pasture!! I had planned to put my horses in the pasture when I bring them home (which was to be any day this week if hubby will finish the fence) but now there's going to be grass clippings all over the pasture!

Re: [IceHorses] Beautiful sunset tonight

2008-05-18 Thread Nancy Sturm
Virginia, it is gorgeous. You must really be enjoying your beautiful new home. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Beautiful sunset tonight

2008-05-18 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virginia, it is gorgeous. You must really be enjoying your beautiful new home. I love it. It is a dream come true. V

[IceHorses] Yrsa the Bold

2008-05-18 Thread Nancy Sturm
I was out by the barn a while ago, planting my flower boxes - only little old ladies have shutters and window boxes on their horse barns, I suspect. I heard the unmistakeable clatter of little horse feet on wood. We'd left the gate open to the riding ring so the horses could munch the grass and

Re: [IceHorses] The Buyer is Me

2008-05-18 Thread Janice McDonald
So as the majority of horse owners is getting older, and heavier and needs short stout horse . . . .I just don't get it. Wake up and smell the horse manure breeders. Kat AMen, (we are a real tent revival meeting this morning :) and if you are a breeder and surely, have some regard

Re: [IceHorses] The Buyer is Me

2008-05-18 Thread Karen Thomas
The original SSH was under 13 to 15 hands! Same with all the mountain horses. I can't remember the last time I saw an under-15H RMH in this area. I see a lot that are 16-ish H, and many with toothpick legs. Once a breed becomes the breed du jour in an area, here come the show trends!

[IceHorses] Re: Ventroflexion

2008-05-18 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We probably should go into ventroflexion, since it affects our horses to a great extent. What did George have to say? I don't remember well enough to quote him accurately. In our small group was the dressage trainer

Re: [IceHorses] Toys for Big Boys

2008-05-18 Thread Debbie K.
Thank you Nancy for the warning, my friend has one just like this, we will use it on his trails and our flat ones here, It has seatbelts and the double roll bars, the other one we looked at had just the single roll bar and no head rest... we will be careful on the steep hills... How horrible for

Re: [IceHorses] Horsemanship

2008-05-18 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/18/08, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from people I have talked with, particularly in the Icelandic horse world, they really believe that various methods are needed in order to get the horse to perform. Why they need the horse to perform that way is another issue! I'm not

[IceHorses] Trausti's breast collar

2008-05-18 Thread Karen Thomas
I don't usually ride with a breast collar, but I wanted to try this one on Trausti. I'm not sure if I have it fitted correctly. I did adjust the fit somewhat towards the end of this sequence. I worry about it being too tight and rubbing, but I also worry about it being too lose where it

[IceHorses] For Janice...

2008-05-18 Thread Karen Thomas
Do you have a leopard print cover for your helmet yet? http://www.justforponies.com/Pages/SleazyHelmetCovers.htm Karen Thomas, NC

[IceHorses] Icelandic Horse Evaluations in Georgia

2008-05-18 Thread Docnshop2
The Icelandic Horse Evaluations were held this weekend in Georgia. I decided to take my soon to be 2 year old to the young horse evaluations just to see what it was all about. I could not believe that he was just about the only young horse (less than 4) that knew how to lead, get on a

[IceHorses] Check out my Facebook profile

2008-05-18 Thread Raven Flores
I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Raven Here's the link:

Re: [IceHorses] Check out my Facebook profile

2008-05-18 Thread Raven
SORRYthis was sent out by mistake! I was trying to add a friend from Iceland and hit send...instead of SKIP. SORRY. Dumb senior moment. Going back to my corner. Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze