On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:19:30 -0400, you wrote:
>And why should the neck, withers and shoulders get 10%, compared to a grand
>total of 6% for legs and back? This is why I no longer care to travel to
>"see for myself"...there's just too much I can see wrong by reading the
>rules.
You know, I com
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:18:27 -0500, you wrote:
>i myself frequently hold a "come to jesus" meeting with stonewall.
As opposed to a "Go to Jesus" meeting which involves a shotgun too?
; )
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
-
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:04:50 -0500, you wrote:
>The way it's evaluated the breed obviously values the long flowy mane
>and tail with heavy forelock moreso than the puffy bushy mane and tail
>why?? Appearance only?
A horse with lots of mane and tail and feather is easier to sell.
Mic
Mic (Mi
Renee...interesting site. Thanks for sharing it. Reiki is a
light...energy that the universe puts out for the good of all living
things. I am a Reiki Level 2 practitioner...hoping to be a Master in
2009.
Bright Blessings,
Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind
>>> If that is true you have found a very misjudged horse. Would you care to
>>> name the animal. Perhaps even privately so I can end my curiosity?
No. I'm not out to bash a particular horse - doing that could conceivably
ruin his quality of life. The sad thing is that I don't think he's an
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the ears small and refined,
> the expression one
> of noble beauty and deep intelligence, the nose
> aquiline and showing
> of perfect pre-roman breeding, the nostrils
> delicately flared, the
> neck swanlike and oozing refined grace.
I showed t
> I was not trying to say that sickle hock is a good condition but that I have
> seen sickle hocked horses that were not cow hocked. The cow hocked horse in
> my experience appears sickle hocked if viewed from the side only.
>
>
> Phil
> Who feels this thread has run its useful life cycle for now.
-Original Message-
From: IceHorses@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Karen Thomas
>>> This stallion you refer to do you know what mark it got for legs
(joints)?
>There are two scores for legs. I believe he had a 7.5 for one, and an 8
>for the other. I
>know both scores were at least 7.5/
>>> i think you oughta send that pci of him with the fly mask on in for feif
>>> evaluation showing a perfect head and what was that word? Spectacular
>>> noble gaze or what was it...
Tivar definitely has a "fine head". ;)
Karen Thomas, NC
>
well i aint mentioning any names, but someone on the list sent money
to someone else on the list as a donation, and the person sent her a
reiki in return for her dog, and her dog promptly died so frankly i am
a little leery of reiki sent via emails. for money. Any time you
have to pay for somethi
-Original Message-
From: IceHorses@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Karen Thomas
>>> Sickle hocked by itself okay.
>Really? I believe that both are considered faults -
I was not trying to say that sickle hock is a good condition but that I have
seen sickle hocked horses that were not
>
> Tivar hasn't lost any weight either - although that's not necessarily as
> good for Tivar as for Trausti! I think Teev may have even put on a couple
> of pounds.
i think you oughta send that pci of him with the fly mask on in for
feif evaluation showing a perfect head and what was that word?
>>> Here is Trausti week two. Still sticking with Nas but not fighting with
>>> anyone and more and more grazing near the other guys. Here with
>>> traveller.
He looks good, Janice. He doesn't look like he's lost any weight. Unlike
some Icelandic's, Trausti has never been a true air-fern,
>Can't seem to quiet my mind<
The Bach Flower essence "White Chesnut" is a good one to still the mind. It
can be put into your water bottle, taken straight or sprayed on you like a
mist. This can be layered on top of Rescue Remedy as well.
Kaaren(Major Frosted Flake and makes a living at it!!)
This is just crazy to me. The different marks have different weighting
factors...and I'm glad that heads aren't weighted heavily, although I think
3% is still too much, and 1.5% is way too much for mane and tail. But, look
at the rest of this:
Conformation
Head
Nancy, (and anyone else)
I found this website for us:
http://www.christianreiki.org/
I'm intrigued by this practice.
-- Renee M. in Michigan
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and respectfully Susan, I disagree about the "if you
> can take it the
> horse can" about heat.
That was in answer to Fran who is very heat sensitive.
> like the air was so hot and humid the horses never
> really cooled down!
Guess I've forgo
Under neck: "Neck, withers & shoulders A long, high-set, very fine neck,
well-flexed at the poll, the neck is clearly separated from the body, high,
prominent and well-shaped withers, shoulders long and sloping."
Shoulders long and loping...? Doesn't a sloping shoulder tend to give a
horse m
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:44 AM, susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Now you can dismiss me as a flake!
>
> Susan in NV
Far from being a flake in my book. You're training is an inspiration.
I've been so distracted with work-recruiting, interviewing, hiring
and having to work way more tha
Guess I wasn't obnoxious enough!
wow remember that deal, we oughta revisit that if anyone knows the
website, was it the 1996 celebration where the young african american
girl insisted on entering her flat shod walker in the WGC padded shoe
class and they booed and jeered her, her parents were o
actually, I am realizing the tendon name thing is regional. here we
call one thing "blown tendons" and another thing "bowed tendons" and
another thing "inflamed tendons". wonder what they all are actually.
but you'd think if someone was going to use the term officially it
would have an official d
> > i myself frequently hold a "come to jesus" meeting
> > with stonewall.
>
> BWAHHHAHAHAHAHA!
I got my roundpen up and running again for my brthday present. I was
so excited, even tho I was sick I took stonewall out to it for his
first roundpen come to jesus meeting in about a year and a hal
I haven't revisited the FIZO breeding rules in a year or so, so I just took
another look. Here are a few points I noticed right off the bat:
It says that the average height of mares is 136cm (about 13.1-13.2H) and
stallions about 138 cm (about 13.25 or so.) Ok, I believe that. BUT, under
bre
>>> Once the tendon sheath gets swollen it tends to do it again -- the
>>> tissues are overstretched. The owner did an uncredibly stupid and
>>> abusive thing, IMO -- tendons and ligaments need at least six months
>>> of gradually increasing long slow distance work (with adequate cooling
>>>
> The owner did an uncredibly stupid and abusive thing, IMO
no kiddin. then she has the nerve to tell me my stonewall would make
a perfect endurance horse and if I wanted, out of the goodness of her
heart and great generosity, she would ride him for me! who needs
enemies with friends like t
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anyways--they went out and about today and Gat didn't run away with
> her but she did have a snappy walk home. I uploaded a video of them
> taken around the house.
Good job Alex! Snappy walk is perfectly acceptable.
The owner did an uncredibly stupid and abusive thing, IMO
Well said, Lynn.
Nancy
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i myself frequently hold a "come to jesus" meeting
> with stonewall.
BWAHHHAHAHAHAHA!
Susan in NV
read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink:
http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'd probably have to wire my jaws
> shut beforehand.
I'm afraid I'd need to wire my jaw shut, too. My
friend that I bought my TWH mare and Whisper from took
me to the Western Celebration which used to be held in
Reno. I booed the Big Lick classes and got stared a
i myself frequently hold a "come to jesus" meeting with stonewall.
janice--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
>>>Her owner took her on a fifty mile endurance ride just out of
> the blue, and she actually placed. Then her tendons were swollen
> afterward. then the vet said she couldnt be ridden until they went
> down. now every time shes ridden they swell back up. THATS what I
> wonder if wet tendons ar
I like the saxon stretch one. if it catches on things it doesnt rip
so easy. Mic in wales has a great one that fits awesome but with
shipping is pricey.
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
I didnt say anything because my situation was so different V... but
you went to a BETTER place with your horses. Mine were taken from a
huge boarding facility they had been at for years and jaspar was
actually the herd leader of the place, I'm not kidding. he was the
leader of every trail ride t
I agree. I loved those shows. All the animals were happy and healthyand
living in harmony. I obviously was living in a bubble.
Or not. I had a college anthropology professor who had worked in Alaska and
somehow was involved in the production of a Disney nature film about polar
bears.
> I can so relate to this. Everyone at work asked me if I was watching
> the Derby, Preakness, etc. etc.When I said, "No, I love horses too
> much to watch that kind of abuse"
Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think this is how some of us feel about the Icela
2008/6/9 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Trish,
> You are a kindred spirit.I understand completely. : )And it
> bites because I love shows about nature. I grew up watching Wild Kingdom,
> but it seems back then, the nature shows were a lot more censored and less
> graphic.
I agree.
> Janice, this one isn't Cali...but maybe you can tell from the camera angle.
ha, i'm onto that trick! All you have to do to get him to do that one
is dribble a tablespoon of water on his head! And he dont care WHERE
he is!
janice
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Hahaha, see that mask is good for him image!
Janice--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
http://www.myhorse.com/health/preventative/wind_puffs_are_swelling_in_your_horses_ankle.aspx#top
hmm. the wind puffs I have seen on off track TBs were not bad at all,
almost just cosmetic. Its actually a paso I know that is on pasture
rest. Her owner took her on a fifty mile endurance ride
I can so relate to this. Everyone at work asked me if I was watching
the Derby, Preakness, etc. etc.When I said, "No, I love horses too
much to watch that kind of abuse" they all look at me with this "Say
what???" look.Then I tell them how immature the bodies of t
oh man, theres this one, its been on a few times, i think its on
national geographic channel, about how those kimodo dragon lizards
have spit so venomous with bacteria that the way they kill things is
to bite it in the leg and then just follow it around while it slowly
dies an agonzing death from b
Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A young Morgan filly, naturally gaited, gaiting in hand:
>
> http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/06/gaiting-in-hand.html
>
Oh she's a dumpling! What a lot of natural talent. Do you know Judy -- does
she trot in the field as well?
-- Renee M.
On Jun 9, 2008, at 5:14 PM, Janice McDonald wrote:
> I have seen
> horses with tendons that swell after exertion and they have to be
> wrapped and have ice packs. Its a chronic thing after a while and the
> horse has to be put out to pasture. I dont think of it at all as a
> little minor thing!
pippa258 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Me too! I remember once watching a documentary on hippos, thinking,
> well, they're vegetarians, should be okay. . . It just did me in...can't
> watch
> Animal Planet or Nature shows anymore. It is self preservation as I
> think about it fo
Hi Anna,
Anna Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The UPS guy knows that I have horses and left me a button with UPS and a
> picture of Big Brown. Even though I like Big Brown, I told the girls at the
> desk
> that I didn't want it and shame on UPS for supporting horse racing.<
I can so
Hi Debbie,
Thanks for the reply -- I'm catching up on some older e-mails. : )
> > No, I think you will be fine, you may want to have some narrow areas,
> > like waves along the way just remember to alwsys have the corners
> > wider<
Good point.
I have 4 horses, however, my land i
> > he is base narrow with ok mane sloppy gaited and upright hocks and oh.
> > only a 2 .2 for willingness if that!
>
> I've found that performance is not always directly related to
> conformation... that would be in horses, of course.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHnancy nancy nancy! I am SHOCKED girlfran.
Jan
I have seen
horses with tendons that swell after exertion and they have to be
wrapped and have ice packs. Its a chronic thing after a while and the
horse has to be put out to pasture. I dont think of it at all as a
little minor thing! So I want to know, IS it a minor thing?? Or is
it what other
i love the purple on tosca, she looks great. i also use stowaway
packs, really like them.
Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess
Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all a
> These are tendons that are not tight, have a soft feel and are somewhat
> puffy feeling like they have a layer of fluid over them.
i know, but what are they called medically in america. surely someone knows.
Janice
--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
I have seen
horses with tendons that swell after exertion and they have to be
wrapped and have ice packs. Its a chronic thing after a while and the
horse has to be put out to pasture. I dont think of it at all as a
little minor thing! So I want to know, IS it a minor thing?? Or is
it what other
> One of the biggest challenges in endurance and CTR in the last decade
> or two has been to educate the vets who work the competitions to learn
> to evaluate lameness in gaited horses . . . because most of the gaited
> horses (TWHs, MFTs, PFs, PPs, RMHs, etc) competing will gait during the
> in-h
Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what are wet tendons. its scarey that no one knows the official
> answer to this simple question
> janice
>
Janice,
Are you looking for a lay-person's explanation / understanding of the term,
or something more schlolarly?
I've always
>> The obvious solution, of course, is to get one or two more horses to
>> babysit each other when one or two is taken out. : )
Fabulous idea!!
We've found that 25 is a good number... ;)
Karen Thomas, NC
susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
> Now you can dismiss me as a flake!
>
Oh Susan -- you're not a flake -- you're my new hero!!! : ) It takes guts to
step out of the box and then talk about it.
I don't quite get "Reiki" and how it works or what it's about exactly, but if
i
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The obvious solution, of course, is to get one or two more horses to babysit
> each other when one or two is taken out. : )
>
Fabulous idea!!
V
susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In my experience, it doesn't matter how long they have
> been "home" whether 2 weeks or 10 years!
Hi Susan and Virginia.
I think Susan may be right. . . It's very common in two horse "herds" for
them to become extremely bound to one another an
You might want to stop reading while you still think it makes sense!
Oh my - I guess none of it makes sense then. Other than the -1.4 for height
and the 1 for Parents, all the other scoresare in the 80's or 90's.
Nancy
>>> Or anyone else. I have this sheet printed from www.worldfengur that
>>> appears to be a
>>> numerical listing of scores applied to Toasa and Yrsa's sire. Most of it
>>> makes sense,
>>> although since he has 102 for walk, I guess 100 is not a perfect score.
You might want to stop readi
>>> I don't think I have seen a cow hocked horse that was not also sickle
>>> hocked by your
>>> definition.
First, it's not "my" definition. Those are standard terms used in modern
horsemanship.
And yes, you can have one without the other, and varying degrees of each. I
didn't have
to tr
What an intersting thread...
It was a perfect day today, 70's, with lovely high clouds that played
peek a boo with the sun, a light breeze... a perfect day I put
charm on the picket line to have a bag of hay, she did great...
Lavender helped River go into the water the first time with me on h
>>> Gat didn't run off back to the barn today--she just did a snappy walk. I
>>> think Alex
>>> is now more aware about what to do.
Please tell Alex that I'm darned proud of her. She's really growing up to be
quite the
horsewoman. Their progress has been so much fun to watch.
>>> Actuall
On Jun 9, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Judy Ryder wrote:
> A young Morgan filly, naturally gaited, gaiting in hand:
>
> http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/06/gaiting-in-hand.html
>
One of the biggest challenges in endurance and CTR in the last decade
or two has been to educate the vets who work the comp
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My goodness, Virginia. You live in a park. It is so beautiful there.
>
> Nancy
>
It is beautiful here--especially with all the spring blooms. The
previous owners planted a lot of lovely shrubs, great trees, nice
plants--I
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 2:33 PM, susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The VERY BEST book is by Alexander Kurland "Clicker
> Training you horse in Pictures" or something like
> that.
I already have 3 of her books and I think one is that one.
Once we're settled in here I hope to have more tim
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHgbN_b6lk
>
>
> She's living the life I wanted to live. :) If they can stay that relaxed
> for most of their rides, then I have 100% confidence she'll work through any
> running back to t
-Original Message-
From: IceHorses@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Karen Thomas
Sickle hocks affect the plane that comes up
under the horse (seen in the side view if that helps), while cow-hocks
affect the plane
that runs across the horse - seen in the rear view. It's unfortunate when a
She's going to make someone a sweet riding horse.
Nancy
Way to go Susan. It's low 80's here, beautiful and breezy, and Tosca broke
quite a sweat.
Nancy
I had a very wonderfully calm session with Andi today!
He was, to use Janice's term "calmatose" and his HR
stayed in the 70's with me riding him. This is a
formally overreactive horse who would hold in his
tension, hold his breath, clamp his tail, till he
couldn't take it anymore at which point h
A young Morgan filly, naturally gaited, gaiting in hand:
http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/06/gaiting-in-hand.html
Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com
>>> You must be looking at a very strange horse to be both cow hocked and
>>> sickle hocked.
>>>
I'm not sure why you'd think that funny...? Sickle hocks affect the plane that
comes up
under the horse (seen in the side view if that helps), while cow-hocks affect
the plane
that runs across
phil. what are wet tendons.
Janice
These are tendons that are not tight, have a soft feel and are somewhat
puffy feeling like they have a layer of fluid over them.
Phil
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHgbN_b6lk
She's living the life I wanted to live. :) If they can stay that relaxed
for most of their rides, then I have 100% confidence she'll work through any
running back to the barn issues. What a pair they are...
Is that an entry for the Natural Icel
Or anyone else. I have this sheet printed from www.worldfengur that appears
to be a numerical listing of scores applied to Toasa and Yrsa's sire. Most
of it makes sense, although since he has 102 for walk, I guess 100 is not a
perfect score.
Opposite height at withers, it reads -1.4
What doe
> he is base narrow with ok mane sloppy gaited and upright hocks and oh.
> only a 2 .2 for willingness if that!
> janice
I've found that performance is not always directly related to
conformation... that would be in horses, of course.
Nancy
-Original Message-
From: Karen Thomas
>When was the last evaluation you attended in the USA?
Last US one I attended was in Vallejo, CA about 5 years ago. I have attended
two in Canada subsequently. Christine attended ID evaluations a year and a
half ago and says there was a seminar the
My goodness, Virginia. You live in a park. It is so beautiful there.
Nancy
The flies seem to be so annoying that I'm wondering if I should get
fly sheets and wondered which fabric was best -- polyester or nylon?
There's some decent prices on the following link but I'm not sure
which is the best to buy:
http://www.justforponies.com/Pages/SheetComparison.htm
What do you al
he is base narrow with ok mane sloppy gaited and upright hocks and oh.
only a 2 .2 for willingness if that!
janice
>From Mary Midkiff:
This article appeared in the June 8, 2008 New York Sunday Newsday
Opinion/Editorial section. www.newsday.com I hope you enjoy it!
Sport of kings needs some queens
BY MARY D. MIDKIFF | Mary D. Midkiff is the author of "She Flies
Without Wings: How Horses Touch a Woman's Soul" a
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/6/9 Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> They do! I wish Orri and I could get it right.
>
> Can you have someone come out and give you lessons at your house? I
> made tremendous progress when I had one of the pony
2008/6/9 Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> They do! I wish Orri and I could get it right.
Can you have someone come out and give you lessons at your house? I
made tremendous progress when I had one of the pony club instructors
give me private lessons...
Wanda
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/6/9 Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHgbN_b6lk
>
> What a nice pair they make!
>
They do! I wish Orri and I could get it right.
V
2008/6/9 Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHgbN_b6lk
What a nice pair they make!
Thanks for sharing.
Wanda
> Raven landing on her shoulder<
I had a similar thing happen to me last August when Lalli put a foot in a
hole & went straight down with me. He was not hurt & I was was shaken up
with a sore shoulder for a few days. I know I've shared with you all about
carrying a waist pouch with homeopathics
what are wet tendons. its scarey that no one knows the official
answer to this simple question
janice
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 2:40 PM, susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHgbN_b6lk
>
> BEAUTIFUL! I would also tell Alex that for now, do her
> faster gaits going away from home, and only WALK on
> the way back home for now.
>
Will do!
Thanks.
V
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 2:36 PM, susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Lavender has a calming effect, but you must use
> essential oils. And it is for both of us. I rub a
> few drops on my hands, let the horse smell it, then
> rub some around their nose.
>
I must try that.
I have a small
--- Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHgbN_b6lk
BEAUTIFUL! I would also tell Alex that for now, do her
faster gaits going away from home, and only WALK on
the way back home for now.
Susan in NV
read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink:
h
--- Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, can't help but ask -- corn flake or frosted
> flake?
Frosted - I have a sweet tooth!
>what's the aroma oil for? You or the
> horses? Do you let
> them sniff it or do you rub it on them?
Lavender has a calming effect, but you must use
ess
--- Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't tried a clicker yet, but it is something I
> do want to try sometime.
The VERY BEST book is by Alexander Kurland "Clicker
Training you horse in Pictures" or something like
that. Go to Amazon and type in alexander Kurland. My
clicker bo
>>I had to quit watching Animal Cops and most of the programs on Animal
Planet for the same reason. I'm sure some will see that as cowardly, but
it's really just self-preservation. I've been this way my whole life and
as I get older, it seems I get worse. -- Renee M. in Michigan<<
Me too! I
>>> It seems to me that the most logical way for you to be dissuaded from
>>> your beliefs of what happens at an Evaluation, or to have the
>>> satisfaction of proving that you were right all along, would be to
>>> attend an evaluation. No need to take a horse. Spectators can get close
>>> to t
>>> I meant to add one other thing - while I am not that convinced about the
>>> effectiveness of Icelandic horse evaluations, I have seen no evidence
>>> whatsoever of judges being drunk or hungover while judging, or of judges
>>> showing any bias in favour of their host's horses.
It occurs t
phil. what are wet tendons.
janice
>>>We have one per year here if we're lucky. Some years there's none if it's
>>>not economically viable due to low numbers of horses to be judged (ie
>>>less than 10). I've been to a few in the Netherlands, and the occasional
>>>WC or Landsmot one, but frankly IMO attending a breeding show is ab
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHgbN_b6lk
Virginia Tupper
NB, Canada
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:44 PM, susan cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Now you can dismiss me as a flake!
>
OK, can't help but ask -- corn flake or frosted flake? LOL, sorry,
that was so duh
anyways--what's the aroma oil for? You or the horses? Do you let
them sniff it or do you rub i
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Anna Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It could
> also be that Alex let her speed up a bit when coming back, not
> thinking much about it until she got too fast, then Alex got her
> adrenaline up (maybe a little scared) which got Gat scared so she
> wanted to ge
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