Re: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Nancy Sturm
Thanks! Lucky guy to come to your house. I can't believe what happens to horses sometimes. I was thinking chiropractor (so?) for Twist. He has the eyes of a horse who has been badly treated so we've been trying to show him that life is good. I'm not sure he's buying that, but maybe if he gets c

Re: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Nancy Sturm
That's also what I decided to do. Instead of trying to change hard pacing Twist I decided to accept him for who he is and (oddly) he relaxed and began to trot more often. Sometimes I suspect I will never learn! Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Janice McDonald
isnt he just the handsomest... I can never look at him without my heart soaring I love him so much. I tell my husband Jaspar is my heart. he thinks thats funny :) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo

RE: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Karen Thomas
What makes up a pacey conformation? One of the contributors is a long back, particularly a long lumbar span (loins). I think that's why so many pacey horses are also prone to swaybacks. Karen Thomas, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Mary Arena
- Original Message - From: "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I appreciate him for what he is--- the best dang horse in the whole > dang universe :) actually, I love his smooth gentle stepping pace, > and when we need to go faster, skip the hard pace and go directly into > his

RE: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Karen Thomas
My Stormur has always been a very pacey horse, but I don't consider him tobe stiff. He certainly can be, when he hard paces, but he's very willing to soften when I ask, and can still be pretty pacey. He has a very comfortable stepping pace and is offering what I think is saddle rack, more and

Re: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Karen Thomas
Karen, since I am rather new to the list, would you say again why Loftur is less stiff now? Did you find a way to relieve his pain? His stiffness? We bought Loftur in late May 2004 as a reputed bolter. He was imported, but had been living in Florida (two different homes) for about five yea

Re: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Janice McDonald
On 7/2/07, Mary Arena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What do you all do with your hard wired pacey guys? > I appreciate him for what he is--- the best dang horse in the whole dang universe :) actually, I love his smooth gentle stepping pace, and when we need to go faster, skip the hard pace an

Re: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Judy Ryder
> I guess my question would be, wouldn't we be better to address stiffness > and > innate gaitedness separately? Yes, I think pacey-ness can be derived from two different things. Ljufur was a pacey horse. But he was loose pacey. I think that was because of his musculature. And maybe a combi

Re: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Mary Arena
>I guess my question would be, wouldn't we be better to address >stiffness >andinnate gaitedness separately? The way I see it, they >MAY be related >sometimes, but often they aren't. I agree with you, Karen. My Stormur has always been a very pacey horse, but I don't consider him to be stiff.

Re: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Janice McDonald
some horses arent stiff and they saddlerack, like stonewall, it is like he trips so lightly and nimbly, like ballet. But jaspar, oh my gosh, talk about stiff as a board. But in stepping pace he is nice and soft. My fox is tense and stiff when saddleracking. So must have a lot to do with build a

Re: [IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Nancy Sturm
Karen, since I am rather new to the list, would you say again why Loftur is less stiff now? Did you find a way to relieve his pain? His stiffness? Twist, the off-track Standardbred paced at the track, wearing the traditional track hobbles to enfore the pace. He has a very straight hind leg conf

[IceHorses] Stiffness and gaits...?

2007-07-02 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> But yes, I do think they saddle rack. I think they tolt (rack), foxtrot, hard pace, etc... I think there's a huge range in our horses and each one moves a little different. Some move more stiffly and tend towards paciness. Some move with a lot of looseness and tend towards foxtrot or trotti