RE: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-07-04 Thread Skise
Again, welcome! What do you do with your Icelandics? Do you show, trail ride or do something else? I'd love to hear more? And we LOVE pictures...:) Karen Thomas, NC, USA Actually at the moment I don't have an horse. I had a 5-gaited gelding, former show horse, Fáfnir frá Akureyri for 8

Re: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-07-02 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, running walk is in the center of the gait spectrum. How is that named? tolt. --vicka oh gosh Vicka, please PLEASE post that to the world group, a lot of people there think if a horse does a to-die-for runningwalk it

Re: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-07-02 Thread Janice McDonald
a wonderful runningwalk is not what they, or I for that matter are breeding for. I want a good clear tolt/rack...in my Icelandics, now if they have other easy gaits, I would be fine riding them, but it is not what I am breeding for, and I do not thing its what they are wanting in evauls

RE: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-07-02 Thread Karen Thomas
There are a lot of breeders on that list, and a wonderful runningwalk is not what they, or I for that matter are breeding for. I want a good clear tolt/rack... If the breeders can't define either one, how the heck do they know what they want? And even the USIHC says the tolt is similar

RE: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-07-01 Thread Karen Thomas
that's the *best* tolt, is the exact four-beat midpoint between trot and pace, is how i have been given to understand it. but if some tolt is a little lateral or diagonal, and goes one-two--thre-four, this is just not quite as perfect a tolt, but still comes under the term. (i had a long

Re: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-07-01 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 12:59:27PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: We know that Tolt is a rack (1 foot / 2 foot support); that's obvious; that's what they show and judge in their evaluations for tolt, tolt competitions, icetolt, etc. that's obvious from the show world. you don't know what they

Re: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-07-01 Thread Janice McDonald
For example, running walk is in the center of the gait spectrum. How is that named? tolt. --vicka oh gosh Vicka, please PLEASE post that to the world group, a lot of people there think if a horse does a to-die-for runningwalk it should be eaten for dinner... Janice-- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-07-01 Thread Judy Ryder
For example, running walk is in the center of the gait spectrum. How is that named? tolt. Incorrectly, the Icelanders believe tolt is in the middle. It isn't. The running walk is the center of the gait spectrum; it is not a tolt. Tolt is a lateral gait. Vicka, you are way out of your

Re: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-06-30 Thread Skise
I don't know what tölt means in Iceland, but here in Finland (where the only breed of gaited horses is icelandics) all the soft gaits really are called tölt, but that doesn't mean they are all considered good tölt. The only acceptable tölt is clear four-beat, any variations to pacy or trotty side

Re: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-06-30 Thread Judy Ryder
I don't know what tölt means in Iceland, but here in Finland (where the only breed of gaited horses is icelandics) all the soft gaits really are called tölt, but that doesn't mean they are all considered good tölt. The only acceptable tölt is clear four-beat, any variations to pacy or trotty side

RE: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-06-30 Thread Karen Thomas
I don't know what tölt means in Iceland, but here in Finland (where the only breed of gaited horses is icelandics) all the soft gaits really are called tölt, but that doesn't mean they are all considered good tölt. The only acceptable tölt is clear four-beat, any variations to pacy or trotty side

Re: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-06-30 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 03:24:08PM -, kim morton wrote: Ok, say we accept this premise, that we should use the Icelandic term tolt to mean all easy gaits. What if someone wants to import an Icelandic horse and wants to know *exactly* what gaits the horse is showing, how will we know?

Re: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition

2007-06-30 Thread Janice McDonald
i dont see how you can just go by four clear beats four even beats etc. I tried for years. For one thing, a hard pace is four distinct beats if they are going fast and you mistake the two distinct patterns for one. So is a trot for that matter. I finally found a pattern in my jaspars stepping