RE: [ilugd] Verisign Plays the M$ way

2003-09-19 Thread Tarun Upadhyay
I don't see what is wrong. They have been running the root servers for too long and they are now trying to make some money out of it. And they only do it for invalid domains. It is much better than pop up ads in flash that cover the screen. I would think this is a legitimate way of making money.

Re: [ilugd] Oracle can I download it?

2003-09-19 Thread Surjo Das
I don't see any reason why you can't download and use it for your testing and development purposes. --- Arindam Dey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry people, Forgot to put in the oracle site link. My apologies. http://oss.oracle.com -- Arindam Dey The mind is not a vessel to be

Re: [ilugd] Verisign Plays the M$ way

2003-09-19 Thread Sanjeev \Ghane\ Gupta
On Friday, September 19, 2003 3:17 PM [GMT+0800=SGT], Tarun Upadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can somebody more knowledgeable enlighten me on what kind of things I can expect to break because of this from a system administration point of view and how can they be repaired. (just the facts

Re: [ilugd] Oracle can I download it?

2003-09-19 Thread Sanjeev \Ghane\ Gupta
On Friday, September 19, 2003 1:25 PM [GMT+0800=SGT], Arindam Dey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to think that Oracle is licensed software. It is. According to the license and yes I did bother to read some part of it. It says that I can use it for developing and prototyping your

RE: [ilugd] Verisign Plays the M$ way

2003-09-19 Thread Tarun Upadhyay
Yes, I know lot of people do the same. This has been a convention in Sendmail world for long. However : A) how does it help prevent spam (I can very well send you mail faking [EMAIL PROTECTED])? In fact, most spammers not just uses a legitimate domain name, they even exploit the open

RE: [ilugd] 21sep linux delhi meet

2003-09-19 Thread Tarun Dua
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 13:56, Tarun Upadhyay wrote: I propose to hold the meeting at my office. The address is: Induslogic Inc. 4th Floor, Picadilly House 276, Capt Gaur Marg, Srinivaspuri Delhi 110065, India. P: +91.11.5170.9070 F:

Re: [ilugd] Verisign Plays the M$ way

2003-09-19 Thread Varun Varma
Tarun Upadhyay wrote: I don't see what is wrong. They have been running the root servers for too long and they are now trying to make some money out of it. Huh? They have not been running the root name servers for free! AFAIK, every registrar has to pay them for every domain registered under

Re: [ilugd] Oracle can I download it?

2003-09-19 Thread anuj agarwal
--- Sanjeev \Ghane\ Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, September 19, 2003 1:25 PM [GMT+0800=SGT], full oracle version is not free. Arindam Dey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to think that Oracle is licensed software. It is. According to the license and yes I did bother

RE: [ilugd] Verisign Plays the M$ way

2003-09-19 Thread Shuvam Misra
Dear Tarun, The issue of technical problems cropping up due to this also looks exaggerated to me. Clearly, any danger to SMTP servers can not be a concern as they would probably add wildcards for A type record and not MX records. I can't understand the full impact of this problem because I'm

Re: [ilugd] Verisign Plays the M$ way

2003-09-19 Thread Shuvam Misra
As such, I do not accept (spam?) from [EMAIL PROTECTED] With this change, nosuchdoamin.com will seem to exist. The rest is left as an exercise to the reader ;-) The rest is bigger than the bit you've chosen to highlight. :) Shuvam ___ ilugd

[ilugd] Strange behaviour of device files on diskless Linux

2003-09-19 Thread Shuvam Misra
Dear all, I saw some very strange behaviour of device files on Linux recently, thanks to a colleague. Can partly explain it, after all these years working with Unix, but my explanation has holes. I'll explain the phenomenon not as I experienced it, but in brief, so that you don't have to

[ilugd] auto-startup a script, apps, *after* runlevel5

2003-09-19 Thread linuxlingam
dear all, after a user successfully logs in to a kde desktop, i want the system to automatically run a script, launch some applications, etc. for this, a few days ago i tried customising rc.local, until i realized rc.local does its stuff *before* startx. then, i google-searched, and discovered

[ilugd] Upcoming Event - ILUG-Delhi Monthly Meeting

2003-09-19 Thread raju
Dear All, India Linux Users Group - Delhi, is proud to announce the upcoming event - ILUG-Delhi Monthly Meeting. Please visit the ILUG-D web site and RSVP online if you plan on attending it. Here are the complete details: What: ILUG-Delhi Monthly Meeting When: Sun Sep 21, 2003, 14:00 Where:

[ilugd] Fw: [news.admin.net-abuse.email] What Big Tobacco can learn from Microsoft

2003-09-19 Thread Sanjeev \Ghane\ Gupta
On Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:31 AM [GMT+0800], John W. Krahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: What Big Tobacco can learn from Microsoft From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronald F. Guilmette) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Some fresh Windoze bugs were announced today:

[ilugd] New RPM Manager?

2003-09-19 Thread Sanjeev \Ghane\ Gupta
http://lwn.net/Articles/49665/ The anticipated announcement by Red Hat, Inc. about the future direction of the Red Hat Linux Project, originally scheduled for publishing early this week, was rudely postponed by the imminent arrival of hurricane Isabel in North Carolina. But even as preparations

[ilugd] RE: auto-startup a script, apps, *after* runlevel5

2003-09-19 Thread linuxlingam
dear bhaskar, yes! the following techniques you suggest are working : quoteif you are using KDE, use the ~/.kde/Autostart folder. Put the script or a link to it and it should start after X loads. In GNOME, use ~/.Xclients-default to load your programs.quote however, the following

Re: [ilugd] auto-startup a script, apps, *after* runlevel5

2003-09-19 Thread linuxlingam
dear bhaskar, you wrote: Hi LL, Have u chmodded the executable bit of .xinitrc file? The /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession checks this before running the user's xinitrc script. Also, xdm uses the .xsession file instead. So try symlinking the file: ln -s .xinitrc .xsession *** before i get into another

Re: [ilugd] RE: auto-startup a script, apps, *after* runlevel5

2003-09-19 Thread Raj Mathur
LL == linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LL [snip] LL so if i have a user on my machine who decides to boot into any LL random environment, the apps i want working on his/her logging LL into runlevel 5, will disappear. The app shouldn't be started by the user in that case.

Re: [ilugd] Upcoming Event - ILUG-Delhi Monthly Meeting

2003-09-19 Thread yogesh anand
Hello sir, I will attend the meeting. With Regards Yogesh Anand Dear All, India Linux Users Group - Delhi, is proud to announce the upcoming event - ILUG-Delhi Monthly Meeting. Please visit the ILUG-D web site and RSVP online if you plan on attending it. Here are the complete details:

Re: [ilugd] auto-startup a script, apps, *after* runlevel5

2003-09-19 Thread Shuvam Misra
then, i google-searched, and discovered i need to have a hidden script file, .xinitrc in the home directory, which would do the trick. the file did not exist, so i created it. i tried this, and it did not work either. finally, i re-googled and discovered a hidden .xsession file needs to be

Re: [ilugd] auto-startup a script, apps, *after* runlevel5

2003-09-19 Thread Shuvam Misra
before i get into another twisted spin of checking out various permutations, is the .xinitrc file supposed to be a shell script, with the #!/usr/bin/bash line as the first line and the relevant commands following, with the file chmodded to execute, or is it supposed to be a plain file

[ilugd] Re: [LIH]New sendmail breaks STARTTLS

2003-09-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Raj Mathur [9/19/2003 6:55 PM] : Anyone else experiencing STARTTLS weirdness after upgrading Sendmail? I'm not able to have clients authenticate to the server anymore (even when both the client and the server are the same machine) after upgrading Sendmail after the latest advisory. Certificates

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]New sendmail breaks STARTTLS

2003-09-19 Thread Raj Mathur
Suresh == Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suresh Raj Mathur [9/19/2003 6:55 PM] : Anyone else experiencing STARTTLS weirdness after upgrading Sendmail? I'm not able to have clients authenticate to the server anymore (even when both the client and the server

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]New sendmail breaks STARTTLS

2003-09-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Raj Mathur [9/20/2003 9:12 AM] : Where can I find this? Threads on comp.mail.sendmail Suresh What error are you getting in your logs? This is from Suresh cf/README ... verify=FAIL. That is ok - as long as the mail gets through. You'd normally have to present a client CERT signed using

Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]New sendmail breaks STARTTLS

2003-09-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Raj Mathur [9/20/2003 10:38 AM] : The certificates are OK, they are read when Sendmail starts up, they were working up to yesterday (before the upgrade). BTW, the logs are from my local machine, but the remote server also exhibits the same behaviour. Did you by any chance upgrade openssl in the