Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-28 Thread Brian Nitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Brian Nitz wrote: >> I think there are already better options than that. >>- For example, you could try the CIFS (aka SMB) Client beta's >> here: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/smbfs/ > > Don't use the Beta - this is already in Nevada, build 84, now. > The Beta w

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-27 Thread Bryan Boone
t; "kinda there" means I can see it with nautilus, but not from the >>>>> command line. >>>>> It would be nice to be able to create say, a softlink to it (can >>>>> I?), after the space has been mounted. >>>>> That way I c

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-27 Thread Robert . Thurlow
Brian Nitz wrote: > I think there are already better options than that. > >- For example, you could try the CIFS (aka SMB) Client beta's here: > http://opensolaris.org/os/project/smbfs/ Don't use the Beta - this is already in Nevada, build 84, now. The Beta won't run on Solaris 10, so it's

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-27 Thread Brian Nitz
;> "kinda there" means I can see it with nautilus, but not from the >>>>> command line. >>>>> It would be nice to be able to create say, a softlink to it (can >>>>> I?), after the space has been mounted. >>>>> That wa

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-27 Thread Bryan Boone
oreing filesystems and use them as my own. >>>> -Bryan >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Robert Thurlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:49 PM >>>> To: Bryan Boone >>>

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-27 Thread Brian Nitz
create say, a softlink to it (can >>> I?), after the space has been mounted. >>> That way I can mount foreing filesystems and use them as my own. >>> -Bryan >>> >>> ____ >>> From: Robert Thurlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: T

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-27 Thread Brian Nitz
Nitz; indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org > Subject: Re: [indiana-discuss] How good willIndiana be for > desktop computing? > > Bryan Boone wrote: > >> My desktop computing requirements are a little more modest. >> I develop Java apps for my company. >>

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-26 Thread Bryan Boone
wn. -Bryan From: Robert Thurlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:49 PM To: Bryan Boone Cc: Giacomo Tufano; Brian Nitz; indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing? Bryan Boone wrote: > My desk

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Thurlow
Bryan Boone wrote: > My desktop computing requirements are a little more modest. > I develop Java apps for my company. > So I need Java, nfs, and smb (cifs). > > Java, I think is there. > NFS is there. > SMB is kinda there, but I'd like to mount it via fstab (or the Solaris > equivalent) By "kin

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-26 Thread Bryan Boone
My desktop computing requirements are a little more modest. I develop Java apps for my company. So I need Java, nfs, and smb (cifs). Java, I think is there. NFS is there. SMB is kinda there, but I'd like to mount it via fstab (or the Solaris equivalent) The thing I love most about developing in

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-22 Thread Youri Podchosov
Youri Podchosov wrote: >> On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 20:29 -0500, Youri Podchosov wrote: >>> Mark Phalan wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 07:24 -0800, Euan Thoms wrote: >>> How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv >> etc) going to be in project >Indiana? I ask this >> because it suc

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Brett wrote: > -bash-3.2# pkg info -s | grep -i glib > SUNWGlibGLIB - Library of useful routines for C programming > -bash-3.2# pkg info SUNWGlib > Name: SUNWGlib > FMRI: pkg://opensolaris.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.79:20080205T151838Z > Version: 1.2.10 That

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Iban Nieto
> If anyone is compiling/has compiled these components > for indiana preview2 could you please post detailed > steps/prereq's. I attempted it but only got as far as Hi! I have compiled the ffmpeg plugin for gstreamer in Solaris Express Developer 1/08 which have all dependency libraries and gcc /

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Brett
Thanks for that Alan I had already tried SUNWxorg-headers (should have mentioned that in the last post), but it did no good. installing FSWxorg-headers did the trick. Now I have mpeg2dec-0.4.1 installed clean. Unfortunately the other components seem to need a newer version of Glib and Gstr

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Bart Smaalders wrote: > Brett wrote: >> Are the xorg header packages available elsewhere? Or is this going to result >> with me back in compile hell again? >> > > > pkg:/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.79:20080205T171913Z > > looks like an xorg header pkg to me That's only part of the headers - m

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Bart Smaalders
Brett wrote: > looks like those dont exist just yet on pkg.opensolaris.org. the only > SUNWxorg packages i can see are :- > > pkg:/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.79:20080205T171744Z > pkg:/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.79:20080205T171754Z > pkg:/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.79:20080205T171806Z > pkg:/[EMAIL PRO

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Brett
looks like those dont exist just yet on pkg.opensolaris.org. the only SUNWxorg packages i can see are :- pkg:/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.79:20080205T171744Z pkg:/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.79:20080205T171754Z pkg:/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.79:20080205T171806Z pkg:/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.79:20080205T

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Nico Sabbi
Il Friday 22 February 2008 00:39:31 Brett ha scritto: > if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../include -I../include > -Wall -g -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-common -mcpu=i386 -I/usr/X11/include > -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -MT video_out_x11.o -MD -MP > -MF ".d

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Brett
If anyone is compiling/has compiled these components for indiana preview2 could you please post detailed steps/prereq's. I attempted it but only got as far as :- -bash-3.2# cd $home -bash-3.2# cd gst-ffmpeg-0.10.3 -bash-3.2# ./configure ... ... checking for valgrind... no configure: Looking f

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Giacomo Tufano
Il giorno 21/feb/08, alle ore 18:35, Brian Nitz ha scritto: > Giacomo Tufano wrote: >> Il giorno 21/feb/08, alle ore 17:22, Brian Nitz ha scritto: >>> Rather than focusing on how difficult it is to run dodgey, >>> unlicensed >>> video codecs out of the box as compared to Ubuntu, I'd like to make

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Shawn Walker
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Giacomo Tufano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Il giorno 21/feb/08, alle ore 17:22, Brian Nitz ha scritto: > > > > Rather than focusing on how difficult it is to run dodgey, unlicensed > > video codecs out of the box as compared to Ubuntu, I'd like to make > > sure

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Brian Nitz
Giacomo Tufano wrote: > Il giorno 21/feb/08, alle ore 17:22, Brian Nitz ha scritto: > > >> Rather than focusing on how difficult it is to run dodgey, unlicensed >> video codecs out of the box as compared to Ubuntu, I'd like to make >> sure >> that our licensed Fluendo g-streamer plugins, LinDV

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Giacomo Tufano
Il giorno 21/feb/08, alle ore 17:22, Brian Nitz ha scritto: > Rather than focusing on how difficult it is to run dodgey, unlicensed > video codecs out of the box as compared to Ubuntu, I'd like to make > sure > that our licensed Fluendo g-streamer plugins, LinDVD legal DVD playing > and free mul

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Brian Nitz
I understand there are some real differences in the "out of the box" experience between Ubuntu and Indiana Preview 2, but can we level the playing field a tiny bit by discussing multimedia support that is legal enough to be widely deployed even in countries with strict IP laws? AFAIK even on U

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Youri Podchosov
> > On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 20:29 -0500, Youri Podchosov wrote: >> Mark Phalan wrote: >> > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 07:24 -0800, Euan Thoms wrote: >> How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv >> >>> etc) going to be in project >Indiana? I ask this >> >>> because it sucks in Solaris 10 and e

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Phalan
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 15:24 +0100, Nico Sabbi wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2008 15:05:57 Mark Phalan wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 20:29 -0500, Youri Podchosov wrote: > > > > > > > "The playback of this movie requires a MPEG-1/2 System Stream > > > demuxer plugin which is not installed." >

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Nico Sabbi
On Thursday 21 February 2008 15:24:56 Nico Sabbi wrote: > do you mean that gstreamer can use libavcodec (encoders and > decoders) but not libavformat (muxers and demuxers) ? It looks > strange to me ___ gstreamer can definitely use libavformat, as this f

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Nico Sabbi
On Thursday 21 February 2008 15:05:57 Mark Phalan wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 20:29 -0500, Youri Podchosov wrote: > > > > "The playback of this movie requires a MPEG-1/2 System Stream > > demuxer plugin which is not installed." > > > > What's the catch? What does totem want? > > Hmm.. well it

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Phalan
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 20:29 -0500, Youri Podchosov wrote: > Mark Phalan wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 07:24 -0800, Euan Thoms wrote: > How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv > >>> etc) going to be in project >Indiana? I ask this > >>> because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevad

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-20 Thread Youri Podchosov
Mark Phalan wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 07:24 -0800, Euan Thoms wrote: How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv >>> etc) going to be in project >Indiana? I ask this >>> because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevada / OpenSolaris builds that i have trialled to date. >>> Euan, >

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Phalan
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 14:17 -0500, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:25 -0500, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> > Mark Phalan wrote: > >> >> If you're still looking for a good solution for multi-media on > >> >> OpenSolaris I've found that the the easiest path is to simply compile > >

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-19 Thread Dennis Clarke
> > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:25 -0500, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> > Mark Phalan wrote: >> >> If you're still looking for a good solution for multi-media on >> >> OpenSolaris I've found that the the easiest path is to simply compile >> >> the ffmpeg plugin for gstreamer: >> >> >> >> Get it here: >> >>

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-19 Thread Mark Phalan
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:25 -0500, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > Mark Phalan wrote: > >> If you're still looking for a good solution for multi-media on > >> OpenSolaris I've found that the the easiest path is to simply compile > >> the ffmpeg plugin for gstreamer: > >> > >> Get it here: > >> http://gst

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-19 Thread Mark Phalan
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 16:18 +, Andrew Gabriel wrote: > Mark Phalan wrote: > > If you're still looking for a good solution for multi-media on > > OpenSolaris I've found that the the easiest path is to simply compile > > the ffmpeg plugin for gstreamer: > > > > Get it here: > > http://gstreamer

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-19 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Mark Phalan wrote: >> If you're still looking for a good solution for multi-media on >> OpenSolaris I've found that the the easiest path is to simply compile >> the ffmpeg plugin for gstreamer: >> >> Get it here: >> http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gst-ffmpeg/gst-ffmpeg-0.10.3.tar.bz2 >> >>

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-19 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Mark Phalan wrote: > If you're still looking for a good solution for multi-media on > OpenSolaris I've found that the the easiest path is to simply compile > the ffmpeg plugin for gstreamer: > > Get it here: > http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gst-ffmpeg/gst-ffmpeg-0.10.3.tar.bz2 > > It compile

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-19 Thread Mark Phalan
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 07:24 -0800, Euan Thoms wrote: > > >How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv > > etc) going to be in project >Indiana? I ask this > > because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevada / > > >OpenSolaris builds that i have trialled to date. > > > > Euan, > > Multimedia o

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-19 Thread Euan Thoms
> >How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv > etc) going to be in project >Indiana? I ask this > because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevada / > >OpenSolaris builds that i have trialled to date. > > Euan, > Multimedia on Solaris is well supported as it was > about 3-4 years ago. Not as

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-19 Thread Nico Sabbi
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 15:06:42 Ken Mays wrote: > >How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv etc) going to be > > in project >Indiana? I ask this because it sucks in Solaris 10 > > and even Nevada / >OpenSolaris builds that i have trialled to > > date. > > Euan, > Multimedia on Solaris

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-19 Thread Ken Mays
>How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv etc) going to be in project >>Indiana? I ask this because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevada / >>OpenSolaris builds that i have trialled to date. Euan, Multimedia on Solaris is well supported as it was about 3-4 years ago. Not as up-to-date

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Peter Karlsson
Hi Euan, You can get a DRI driver for ATI here http://opensolaris.org/os/project/dri/files/ Cheers, Peter On Feb 19, 2008, at 3:38, Euan Thoms wrote: > Thanks for your feedback. Somebody else mentioned gluten-print but I > think it's inbuilt into Nevada? I tried Nevada build 78 and had no

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Michal Bielicki
Euan Thoms wrote: > Thanks for your feedback. Somebody else mentioned gluten-print but I think > it's inbuilt into Nevada? I tried Nevada build 78 and had no luck with my > PIXMA iP2200, canon seems to have low support in solaris and linux. I will > give this gimp print a go but I am skeptical.

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Bob Netherton
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 12:38 -0800, Euan Thoms wrote: > I will give this gimp print a go but I am skeptical. Unfortunately we've come to the same conclusion - Canon support for open systems is somewhat lacking. Epson and HP are much better supported. > Apologies for accusing solaris of not supp

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Euan Thoms
Thanks for your feedback. Somebody else mentioned gluten-print but I think it's inbuilt into Nevada? I tried Nevada build 78 and had no luck with my PIXMA iP2200, canon seems to have low support in solaris and linux. I will give this gimp print a go but I am skeptical. Apologies for accusing so

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 18, 2008 11:38 AM, Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Bob Netherton wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 08:32 -0800, Euan Thoms wrote: > >> I ask this because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevada / > >> OpenSolaris builds that i have trialled to date. >

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Roberto J. Dohnert
Euan Thoms wrote: > How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv etc) going to be in > project Indiana? I ask this because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even > Nevada / OpenSolaris builds that i have trialled to date. > Its going to suck for awhile as adoption is still low and Solaris 10 is

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Bob Netherton
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 09:38 -0800, Tim Bray wrote: > Have you used a recent Ubuntu? Yes I have. And to make my point I use the Ubuntu GNOME themes on my Indiana and Nevada desktop - and when someone asks, a uname -a shows that Solaris can look the same. > A lot of this stuff Just Works out of

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Lurie
> How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv etc) > going to be in project Indiana? I ask this because it > sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevada / OpenSolaris > builds that i have trialled to date. Since Indiana is freely redistributable, there won't be AFAIK any support for those formats yo

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Tim Bray
On Feb 18, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Bob Netherton wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 08:32 -0800, Euan Thoms wrote: >> I ask this because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevada / >> OpenSolaris builds that i have trialled to date. > > This is simply not true. OK, perhaps if you are looking for > ever

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Euan Thoms wrote: > Last but not least, will 3D graphics support be available for Solaris in the > future, is it on the agenda or will it remain to be deamed unnecessary? Solaris has had 3D graphics support for about 15 years now, and doesn't plan to drop it. It was unfortunately SPARC-only for

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Bob Netherton
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 08:32 -0800, Euan Thoms wrote: > I ask this because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevada / OpenSolaris > builds that i have trialled to date. This is simply not true. OK, perhaps if you are looking for everything to be nicely integrated at install time and supported by t

Re: [indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Michal Bielicki
Euan Thoms wrote: > How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv etc) going to be in project > Indiana? I ask this because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevada / > OpenSolaris builds that i have trialled to date. > > I am a big fan of Sun products and for the last 6 months I've been doing m

[indiana-discuss] How good will Indiana be for desktop computing?

2008-02-18 Thread Euan Thoms
How well supported is multimedia (mpeg, avi, wmv etc) going to be in project Indiana? I ask this because it sucks in Solaris 10 and even Nevada / OpenSolaris builds that i have trialled to date. I am a big fan of Sun products and for the last 6 months I've been doing my best to move away from W