Re: [efloraofindia:64795] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia pseudograntii from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes Sir, thankyou, this seem logical and correct. regards, Rashida. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Rashida ji > Thanks for pointing out. I should have checked it earlier. Now according to > my analysis the Correct name should be Euphorbia umbellata (Pax) Bruyns, > bec

Re: [efloraofindia:64793] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia pseudograntii from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Rashida ji Thanks for pointing out. I should have checked it earlier. Now according to my analysis the Correct name should be Euphorbia umbellata (Pax) Bruyns, because the author himself had made this correction in 2007, the name Euphorbia pseudograntii being already occupied by a totally different

Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:64792] ID request- 10022011-PKA1

2011-03-11 Thread Muthu Karthick
Dear Prashantji, Did you observed any kind of latex in this climber? I have an inkling of this to be an Apocynaceae member. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Mahadeswara wrote: > This is not Quisqualis. For me it looks like one of the Wrightia > species. > > On Mar 11, 9:07 am, Gurcharan Singh

Re: [efloraofindia:64791] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia pseudograntii from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou for posting one more Euphrorbia Sir. There is a minor variation in the nomenclature as compared to Kew Plant List: Euphorbia pseudograntii Pax is mentioned as the accepted name. Request your observations about the same. The type specimen does seem to match your plant. regards, Rashida.

Re: [efloraofindia:64789] Herb from Uttarakhand id amit 5022011

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Amit ji Blumea aromatica is the logical choice: Leaves not divided, involucre glandular hairy, with recurved tips -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297

Re: [efloraofindia:64788] Herb from Uttarakhand id amit 5022011

2011-03-11 Thread amit chauhan
Dear all, Thanks for the id help I think I have come to a conclusion that my plant is Blumea aromatica regards Amit On 3/10/11, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Resurfacing again for ID > also attaching the close up sent subsequently by Amit ji > > Earlier feedback > > Pankaj ji...

Re: [efloraofindia:64787] Re: Plant with aromatic roots

2011-03-11 Thread amit chauhan
Dear all, It is certainly a Polygala sp. but needs more photos for confirming. Yes Polygala do have characteristic smell in roots. I have also collected a Polygala crotolaroides which have a characteristic flesh and aromatic roots regards Amit On 3/11/11, Mahadeswara wrote: > Yes. > > On Mar 10,

Re: [efloraofindia:64786] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
With the addition of Euphorbia pseudograntii (formerly Synadenium grantii) the revised key is enlarged below Stems unarmed; without stipular spines All leaves of same colour Leaves longer than 8 cm, green.

Re: [efloraofindia:64784] Kandivali[w] is celebrating Cassia grandis!

2011-03-11 Thread vipl...@gmail.com
Thank you for the kind words, Dr Usha. I wouldn't have recognised these trees if not for the interest fuelled by your tree appreciation walks, so I am really thankful to you and your colleagues. It is nothing much compared to the amazing trees all of you have been showing everybody in Mumbai since

Re: [efloraofindia:64783] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou Sir for the clarifications. So I take it that the keys in the flora mentioning the red cyathia are incorect or incomplete which led me to seek these clarifications. regards, Rashida. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Rashida ji > Please realise that in E. nerif

Re: [efloraofindia:64782] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir the above keys are in Flora of Maharashtra ! regards, Rashida. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Rashida ji > I don't know much about these herbaceous species. May be it is fine if > given in Dr. Almeida's Flora. Only don't copy it as such. Modify it keeping > Indi

Re: [efloraofindia:64781] identification no110311sn1

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Carissa carandas, the Karonda -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:37 PM,

[efloraofindia:64780] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Samir Mehta
No doubt of the spiral arrangement of the spines in the second image Gurcharan ji. Many thanks for the clarification. Regards, Samir On Mar 11, 9:11 pm, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Samir ji > Please look at the second photograph in your post. If they are the same > plant, you can clearly see spi

Re: [efloraofindia:64779] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Rashida ji Please realise that in E. nerifolia the spines are borne on spirally arranged ribbed, whereas in both E. nivulia and E caducifolia the stem is neither ribbed, angled or winged. In E. caducifolia the cyathia are yellow in flower, reddish in fruit. Please see the following link http://www

Re: [efloraofindia:64778] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
You are right Pankaj ji Our idea is to develop keys which can be used by common members without much knowledge of floral structure. Fortunately it helps in Euphorbia which have little cyathial diversity except for number of glands and gland appendages. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Pr

Re: [efloraofindia:64777] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
My key was deliberatey based on non floral characters, except for use of bracts at one branch. It can be used without even touching the plant. But yes, the usage of floral characters is always advisable. Pankaj On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Samir ji > Please look at

Re: [efloraofindia:64776] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir I think there is some confusion here. The keys from Dr. Almeida's flora and Aima's book which have pictures also do not show green cyathia. Besides both say stipular spines on prominent tubercules are arranged in spirals. Perhaps the wiki plant is E. neriifolia than? . seek your clarificati

Re: [efloraofindia:64773] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Rashida ji I don't know much about these herbaceous species. May be it is fine if given in Dr. Almeida's Flora. Only don't copy it as such. Modify it keeping Indian perspective in mind. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res

Re: [efloraofindia:64772] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir my querries based on the following key from Dr. Almeida's flora on Euphorbia L. : 1. Stems not developed above ground; leaves all radical--- 2 2. Cymes only once dichotomous

Re: [efloraofindia:64770] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Samir ji Please look at the second photograph in your post. If they are the same plant, you can clearly see spirally arranged spines in the second photograph even from a distance. They are never so in E. caducifolia. As for the colour observe the following plant of E. caducifolia http://commons.wi

[efloraofindia:64768] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Samir Mehta
'Shrub wiithout trunk with branches arising from base, smaller leaves (3-8 cm long) and longer spines 0.5-1 cm.E caducifolia Trunk absent, place of attachment of spines raised E. caducifolia' Gurcharan ji, Pankaj ji's and your (relevant portion of the) keys, for the identifi

Re: [efloraofindia:64767] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Rashida ji Please clarify where you want to use radical leaves or not. All leaves radical means there is no stem at all and a leafless scape would arise at the time of flowering to carry the inflorescence up. On the other hand if all leaves are not radical means there would be some radical (basal)

Re: [efloraofindia:64766] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir, my clarification is for - the leaves all radical and leaves not all radical - should it be be a key or not . Sir, also request you to have a relook at Samir ji's post and the colour of the cyathia I think red should be E. caducifolia and green should be E. neriifolia. Sorry, but I fe

Re: [efloraofindia:64765] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Rashida ji Stem is developed in both. In practice in shrubs the branches arising from base are known as stems only. The difference is of common stem better known as trunk. In trees we have a trunk which is single for some distance after which the branches arise (E. nivulia and others). In Shrubs th

Re: [efloraofindia:64763] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Thanks a lot Pankaj ji Members can take help of both the keys. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ O

Re: [efloraofindia:64762] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Stem without spines Leaves red/brown/reddish-brown ……Euphorbia cotinifolia Leaves green or green with variegations Leaves usually present for short duration towards the terminal end of stem ..…..Euphorbia tirucallii Leaves present for longer duration

Re: [efloraofindia:64761] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir, wanted to clarify two keys whether they should be included or not : One : Stems not developed above ground leaves all radical and Stem well developed above ground , leaves not radical Second : Cyathia is red in E. caducifolia Cyathia is green in E. neriifoli

Re: [efloraofindia:64760] Euphorbiaceae Week: Identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Thanks for cotonifolia Leaves and spines are alright. You may check from eFlora of Pakistan where both are described. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297

Re: [efloraofindia:64759] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia helioscopia from Kashmir

2011-03-11 Thread tanay bose
Possibility is there Sir Ji but I have only speculated the name without microscopic investigation I cant confirm on any names Tanay On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Tanay how about *Uromyces > tuberculatus

[efloraofindia:64758] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Revised identification key for the woody species of Euphorbia Stems unarmed; without stipular spines Leaves shorter than 10 cm, all leaves of same colour Stem and leaves uniformly red, leaves in whorls of three, petiole almost as long as blade...E. cotoniifolia Stem an

Re: [efloraofindia:64757] Euphorbiaceae Week: Identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Thanks. Cotoniifolia is actually cotinifolia. I am trying to reframe your keys, will send soon. Hopefully you will like it. There is one more issue here: smaller leaves (3-8 cm long) and longer spines 0.5-1 cm. this is other way around I think. Regards Pankaj On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:35 PM, G

Re: [efloraofindia:64756] Euphorbiaceae Week: Identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Pankaj ji Thanks for pointing this out. I will correct it. As such it also needed some formatting as names are running into second line. Here it is. Stems unarmed; without stipular spines Leaves shorter than 10 cm, all leaves of same colour Stem and leaves uniformly red, leaves in

Re: [efloraofindia:64755] Euphorbiaceae Week: Identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Just a small error. Leaves shorter than 10 cm, uniformally green Stem and leaves uniformly red, leaves in whorls of three, petiole almost as long as blade..E. cotoniifolia (cotinifolia!). Here in second step you have said uniformly green but then u r saying red. You

Re: [efloraofindia:64754] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia helioscopia from Kashmir

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Tanay how about *Uromyces tuberculatus, it* is reported from Euphorbia helioscopia. I remember the name of Uromyces associated with Euphorbia helioscopia when I was in Kashmir. This weed i

[efloraofindia:64753] Euphorbiaceae Week: Identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Based on species already posted and expected one a simple key for woody species of Euphorbia is presented Perhaps we can expand the key for woody succulent species of Euphorbia as under: Stems unarmed; without stipular spines Leaves shorter than 10 cm, uniformally green Stem and le

Re: [efloraofindia:64752] Euphorbiaceae Week: Putranjivaceae, Putranjiva rorburghii from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou Sir for completing the set with the pictures of flowers and fruits. We have had two post of leaves today of this tree ! regards, Rashida On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > *Putranjiva rorburghi*i Wall., Tent. fl. napal. 61. 1826 > syn: *Drypetes roxburghii* (W

Re: [efloraofindia:64751] Euphorbiaceae Week: Phyllanthaceae, Phyllanthus emblica from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Wonderful Post of this very popular fruit tree. Part used as per the book 'Nature Heals' are Plant, Stembark, Leaf, Root, Flower, Fruit, Seed. Action/Uses: Fruit; refrigerant, diuretic, laxative, acrid, cooling, carmative, stomatichic . Flower and unripe fruit; aperient,vermifuge . Flower; cooling

Re: [efloraofindia:64750] Euphorbiaceae Week: Phyllanthus reticulatus from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou for another well illustrated post Sir. regards, Rashida. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:05 PM, tanay bose wrote: > Very nice catch of the flowers !! > Tanay > > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > >> *Phyllanthus reticulatus* Poir., Encycl. 5:298. 1804 >> syn: *Kirga

Re: [efloraofindia:64749] Euphorbiaceae Week: Phyllanthus reticulatus from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread tanay bose
Very nice catch of the flowers !! Tanay On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > *Phyllanthus reticulatus* Poir., Encycl. 5:298. 1804 > syn: *Kirganelia reticulata* (Poir.) Baill. > > Common names: Potato-bush > Hindi: Panjuli, makhi, buinowla > Guj: Datwan > Mar: Pavana > Tel:

Re: [efloraofindia:64748] Euphorbiaceae Week- Putranjivaceae : Putranjiva roxburghii Wall.

2011-03-11 Thread tanay bose
nice catch mani ji Tanay On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:00 AM, Rashida Atthar wrote: > Thanks for the nice pictures Mani ji. In your second pictures the > characteristic oblique leaves are clearly seen. Oblique meaning shorter at > one h. point at the base of the leaf. Leaves are used in the treatm

Re: [efloraofindia:64747] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia helioscopia from Kashmir

2011-03-11 Thread tanay bose
Exactly there are several pathogens which are known to cause disease in Euphorbiaceae tanay On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Rashida Atthar wrote: > > Thanks a lot Tanay for this important information and link to the details. > Such a large and interesting family had to have a pathogen!! > > re

[efloraofindia:64745] Re: Euphorbiaceae week - Euphorbia caducifolia

2011-03-11 Thread Samir Mehta
Thank you Rashida ji, Gurcharan ji for your inputs. Regards, Samir On Mar 11, 4:31 pm, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > I doubt Samir ji's plant being E. caducifolia. This can be verified from > careful comparison with type specimen attached by Rashida ji and the > following links > > http://www.flic

Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:64744] ID request- 10022011-PKA1

2011-03-11 Thread Mahadeswara
This is not Quisqualis. For me it looks like one of the Wrightia species. On Mar 11, 9:07 am, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > Resurfacing again for ID > > Earlier feedback > > Manudev jiThis could be some Quisqualis > species. Please check out whether the flower turn

Re: [efloraofindia:64743] Euphorbiaceae week - Euphorbia caducifolia

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
I doubt Samir ji's plant being E. caducifolia. This can be verified from careful comparison with type specimen attached by Rashida ji and the following links http://www.flickr.com/photos/jvblogger/3327843177/ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/E

Re: [efloraofindia:64742] Euphorbiaceae Week: Phyllanthaceae, Phyllanthus fraternus from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thnakyou for the excellent, illustrated post Sir. regards, Rashida. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote: > *Phyllanthus fraternus* G. L. Webster, Contr. Gray Herb. 176:53. 1955 > syn: *Phyllanthus niruri* sensu Hook.f. (non L.) > > A common weed of wastelands and cultivat

Re: [efloraofindia:64738] Euphorbiaceae week - Euphorbia caducifolia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes indeed it is Euphorbia caducifolia Haines. This was also the missing one from the panaroma posted so far ! Thanks. Some keys A pale green, dense, fleshy, dendroid shrub , upto 2 m high, with numerous branches arising from the very base. -Aima's book pg 194. Branches angular; stipular spines

Re: [efloraofindia:64737] Euphorbiaceae Week: Phyllanthaceae, Phyllanthus amarus from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Rashida ji Thanks * -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ * On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Rashida A

Re: [efloraofindia:64735] Re: Ancistrocladus heyneanus

2011-03-11 Thread Usha Desai
Thank you Jayeshji,Pravinji and Reneeji...excellent photographs and information. *Annkistin=a hook, clados=branch Refers to branches which have hook-like modified branchlets.* I thought this information will help to remember the name! Usha On 10 March 2011 15:14, rajank wrote: > Reeneji , > > Th

Re: [efloraofindia:64734] please send information---------about courses

2011-03-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
You should contact Dr. Swapna Prabhu (swapnapra...@gmail.com), who is one of the members of the group. She organises the taxonomy courses at BNHS. Pankaj On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Smita Raskar wrote: > Mumbai university conducts programmes on plant taxonomy...classes are held > on saturd

Re: [efloraofindia:64733] please send information---------about courses

2011-03-11 Thread Smita Raskar
Mumbai university conducts programmes on plant taxonomy...classes are held on saturdays and sundays Also BNHS helds such programmes On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:14 AM, prasanna gogate wrote: > dear sir i am doing msc forestry in dapoli, maharashtra, i > am interested in distance learning and short

Re: [efloraofindia:64729] Euphorbiaceae Week- Putranjivaceae : Putranjiva roxburghii Wall.

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks for the nice pictures Mani ji. In your second pictures the characteristic oblique leaves are clearly seen. Oblique meaning shorter at one h. point at the base of the leaf. Leaves are used in the treatment of colds. Nuts made into rosaries and necklaces for children to promote good health

[efloraofindia:64724] Kandivali[w] is celebrating Cassia grandis!

2011-03-11 Thread Usha Desai
*Friends Cassia grandis is one of the first Pink Cassia to bloom & It is blooming in Kandivali for last 8days.I think C.grandis is fairly rare in Mumbai and since we have an avenue of it in Mahavir Nagar[Kandivali,Mumbai],if any one is interested I can show these trees. Incidentally Viplav Ganga

Re: [efloraofindia:64723] Euphorbiaceae week- Euphorbia Antiquorum TRIDHARI THOR from Ranibaug,Byculla Mumbao

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes both Usha ji and Rashida ji are right. I saw only the last photo. First two are clearly E. antiquorum, and fourth E. neriifolia. Third is not clear from a distance. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj,

Re: [efloraofindia:64722] Euphorbiaceae week- Euphorbia Antiquorum TRIDHARI THOR from Ranibaug,Byculla Mumbao

2011-03-11 Thread Usha Desai
Geeta ji The last photo 213.JPG is that of Euphorbia nerifolia...it was next to E.antiquorum yrs sincerely Usha Desai On 11 March 2011 13:18, Geeta Rane wrote: > Greetings from geeta rane: > > Very happy to participate in this Euphorbia Week, Appreciated your > initiatives. > I have learnt that

Re: [efloraofindia:64721] Euphorbiaceae week- Euphorbia Antiquorum TRIDHARI THOR from Ranibaug,Byculla Mumbao

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Geeta for the post. Sir, I think Geeta ji has mixed up both the Euphorbias seen next to each other at Rani Baug, Mumbia. I think the first picture is of E. antiquorum but the fourth one is of E. neriifolia. As you had explained to me in my posts of the same two species- the spiral spines

Re: [efloraofindia:64720] Euphorbiaceae week- Euphorbia Antiquorum TRIDHARI THOR from Ranibaug,Byculla Mumbao

2011-03-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Geeta ji This one is Euphorbia neriifolia, looking from a distance. Close up of stem would better resolve the identification. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-2